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[00:44] <Yono> hey GarBage
[00:44] <Yono> what's up?
[00:45] <GarBage> squeezing irssi a bit... it's slick
[00:45] <Yono> gave up bitchx?
[00:46] <GarBage> i haven't decided yet
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[00:58] <NhJm> bx is crap:)
[01:04] <GarBage> NhJm: i disagree, dots are crap
[01:05] <Yono> cgi.ebay.com
[01:05] <Yono> lol
[01:05] <NhJm> er?
[01:06] <NhJm> irssi is da bestest!
[01:07] <NhJm> later; tv viewing time!
[01:08] <GarBage> Yono: wtf is that?
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[02:01] <pwarren> yay for new Nvidia drivers, that just _work_!
[02:05] <NhJm> lol
[02:06] <pwarren> had a hideous time with linux 2.6.9 and nvidia 6111
[02:07] <pwarren> nerochiaro_away: thanks for the FLAC page corrections :)
[02:07] <pwarren> anyone else got some info about the status of FLAC on the Nueros?
[02:09] <NhJm> must have flac!!!!!!!!
[02:09] <NhJm> :/:/
[02:09] <pwarren> hehe, I know, I'm thinking about putting a bounty up for it,
[02:09] <pwarren> but I got no money atm :o(
[02:10] <pwarren> I've got an AUD$1000 a week job starting in december. (YAY!!!!!)
[02:10] <NhJm> lol
[02:11] <NhJm> aud to usd is?
[02:11] <pwarren> and also for the 'play queue' fix.
[02:11] <NhJm> *checks*
[02:11] <pwarren> = US$720 or so?
[02:12] <NhJm> 769.142 USD
[02:12] <NhJm> lol
[02:12] <pwarren> wow, 76.9 today :o)
[02:12] <NhJm> 1 AUD = 0.769142 USD
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[02:12] <NhJm> xe.com
[02:12] <NhJm> :p
[02:12] <NhJm> :P
[02:14] <pwarren> NC-17: Nice site.
[02:14] <pwarren> presses right button!
[02:14] <pwarren> NhJm: Nice site.
[02:14] <NhJm> lol
[02:14] <NhJm> i know; i found it a few years ago
[02:26] <nerochiaro> anyone still here ?
[02:26] <pwarren> yeah.
[02:27] <nerochiaro> hi, no problem for the FLAC pages corrections
[02:27] <nerochiaro> i just double checked a couple of things
[02:27] <nerochiaro> :)
[02:27] <pwarren> sweet :o)
[02:27] <nerochiaro> i'm interested too in seeing that work
[02:28] <pwarren> yeah, playing FLAC is a start.
[02:28] <pwarren> but I don't know if recording will be possible in real time with the Neuros.
[02:28] <nerochiaro> not sure myself
[02:28] <nerochiaro> I think you better ask garbage, he seems to be the one most involved with FLAC at the moment
[02:29] <nerochiaro> but still playbeck would be very good for me. the largest part of my collection is lossless and MPC
[02:29] <nerochiaro> er, playbAck
[02:31] <GarBage> OT: how do you bridge two network interfaces together on W2k?
[02:31] <nerochiaro> no idea
[02:31] <pwarren> GarBage: With difficulty I'd imagine.
[02:32] <Rez> GarBage: reliably?
[02:33] <GarBage> Rez: well, yes if possible
[02:33] <Rez> by using a 4 port switch and plugging both sides into it and a third port into the windows machine ;)
[02:34] <nerochiaro> ok people, I just stopped by to say hello, but I'm now heading straight to bed. I come in from the pub, and had really too much red beer tonight, so I need to sleep on it. Badly. Good night
[02:34] <GarBage> Rez: excellent approach, but they're virtual ones :(
[02:34] <Rez> oh. well, that sucks.
[02:35] <NhJm> lol......
[02:35] <GarBage> nerochiaro_away: gnite man
[02:36] <GarBage> i need a win32 brctl sooo bad...
[02:36] <Rez> don't you just right click on them like everything else?
[02:36] <GarBage> lol
[02:37] <GarBage> i'd hate to install stupid XP just for that
[02:38] <pwarren> what is bridging anyway?
[02:38] <GarBage> oversimplified... mixing the two interfaces together
[02:39] <GarBage> so that traffic flows on both
[02:39] <pwarren> so 2 (or more) physical interfaces appear as one to the OS?
[02:39] <GarBage> yes, actually a third one is created
[02:46] <pwarren> cool.
[02:46] <pwarren> I'm going to go hunting for WiFi hotspots around Canberra, I'll be back when I find one :o)
[02:46] <GarBage> hehe... good hunting
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[04:08] <ivel> GarBage: are you still around?
[04:09] <Yono> hey ivel
[04:09] <ivel> hey
[04:10] <ivel> i have answers for GarBage if he's around.
[04:10] <ivel> it's a driver thing, or possibly a switch [layer 2] thing
[04:10] <GarBage> yes?
[04:11] <ivel> what kind of NICs are you using?
[04:11] <GarBage> virtual ones
[04:11] <GarBage> TAP devices
[04:11] <ivel> 3com and Intel Pro series both support it.
[04:11] <ivel> what os?
[04:11] <GarBage> W2k prof.
[04:12] <ivel> it's driver level
[04:13] <GarBage> nope, it's OS level
[04:13] <ivel> for windows 2k
[04:13] <ivel> Adapter teaming is not part of W2K. If intel nics you can either get the software off the intel cd or download from their web site.
[04:14] <ivel> what kind of switch is behind it?
[04:14] <GarBage> yep, but teaming is not the same as bridging
[04:15] <GarBage> the results are mostly the same, but not applied at the TCP/IP stack low level
[04:15] <GarBage> no switch at all, they're virtual interfaces
[04:15] <GarBage> well, actually one of them is a 3c905cTX
[04:16] <ivel> oh. i'm sorry, i didn't see the bridging
[04:16] <ivel> hrm....what is your end result wish?
[04:16] <GarBage> a flat net
[04:17] <GarBage> using a bridging VPN gateway
[04:17] <GarBage> i did it on my Debian
[04:17] <GarBage> and also on XP and W2k3 machines
[04:18] <GarBage> but no dice with w2k
[04:19] <GarBage> i suppose i could struggle myself with routing... but broadcasts won't work anyway
[04:19] <ivel> hrm...
[04:19] <ivel> i really don't know.
[04:20] <GarBage> ok
[04:20] <GarBage> thanks for trying
[04:22] <ivel> i would think it would be supported in 2k
[04:26] <ivel> what's the memory tester app in Knoppix?
[04:26] <GarBage> memory tester?
[04:26] <ivel> isn't there a command that you can run that will do a lot of reads and writes to the memory?
[04:27] <ivel> and if it's bad you'd know it.
[04:27] <ivel> remembers something....but what it is...
[04:27] <GarBage> there's a bootdisk to help you test your full range of memory
[04:27] <ivel> where?
[04:28] <GarBage> www.memtest86.com
[04:28] <ivel> that's the one i'm thinking of...
[04:28] <ivel> that's part of knoppix i think.
[04:31] <ivel> GarBage: thanks
[04:31] <GarBage> np
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[04:53] <pwarren> found myself an open hotspot :o)
[04:54] <ivel> weeeeeeee
[04:54] <ivel> cheers
[04:54] <pwarren> indeed, sitting back having a coffee and a smoke, talking to you guys :o)
[04:56] <Yono> awesome
[04:57] <ivel> cafe?
[04:59] <pwarren> indeed, a place called valentinos, in Canberra city
[04:59] <pwarren> the WiFi node is run by some local linux nerds.
[05:00] <Yono> heh
[05:02] <pwarren> anyway.
[05:03] <pwarren> GarBage: anything more for me to put on the FLAC status page?
[05:04] <Yono> we have a flac status page?
[05:04] <Yono> nvm
[05:04] <Yono> neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net
[05:04] <pwarren> heh, sure do.
[05:04] <pwarren> :o)
[05:05] <Yono> its new, I'm so 3 hours ago :-D
[05:05] <GarBage> pwarren: not ATM, i'm waiting a rendez-vous from Josh to start working on it
[05:06] <pwarren> righto, I dare say we'll all know about it when flac goes live on the Neuros ;)
[05:07] <GarBage> oh, i haven't noticed you found a place to leech, congratulation Paul
[05:08] <pwarren> GarBage: Eh? U mean the WiFi hotspot?
[05:08] <GarBage> yeah
[05:09] <pwarren> well, I'm being sensible, no ISO downloads :o) just email and chat.
[05:10] <GarBage> i wouldn't call emailing&chatting a sensible thing to do ;)
[05:10] <GarBage> pr0n always makes more sense
[05:11] <pwarren> lol, I guess so, but perhaps not in a public place
[05:11] <pwarren> at least for me.
[05:11] <GarBage> yeah, censhorship from the masses
[05:12] <pwarren> exactly, I don't want the world to know what i'm like :o)
[05:12] <GarBage> that reminds me a story...
[05:12] <Yono> I wonder why we haven't gotten any developers for MPC yet...
[05:12] <pwarren> ooh, do tell.
[05:12] <GarBage> 1 minute while i'm rolling...
[05:12] <pwarren> Yono, maybe not all that many ppl use it??
[05:13] <Yono> I mean, I don't, but it is a nice format for a lossy
[05:13] <pwarren> I'd certainly never heard of it until it came up on the Forums.
[05:14] <GarBage> all right
[05:14] <pwarren> heh, rendez-vous := synchonisation primitive in ADA :o)
[05:14] <pwarren> waits for story...
[05:15] <GarBage> there he was, a friend of mine, working as a programmer for a very important software bussiness label
[05:15] <GarBage> and getting almost every day pissed off by his boss
[05:15] <pwarren> nods
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[05:16] <GarBage> do that, code faster, this should be done yesterday...
[05:16] <GarBage> you know, all those things
[05:16] <pwarren> indeed.
[05:16] <GarBage> and one day, his boss went on a bussiness trip
[05:16] <GarBage> and left his computer turned off
[05:16] <pwarren> oooh, this sounds good...
[05:17] <GarBage> but called the office, for someone to turn it on
[05:17] <GarBage> because he wanted to retrieve some documents he needed
[05:17] <GarBage> so, my friend turned on his boss computer
[05:17] <GarBage> and leave it there
[05:18] <GarBage> a couple of minutes after
[05:18] <GarBage> the boss called again
[05:18] <GarBage> asking for someone to check network connectivity on his computer
[05:18] <GarBage> because he couldn't get in
[05:19] <GarBage> so, my friend went back to the computer
[05:19] <GarBage> and fired up IE
[05:19] <GarBage> to show the intranet page
[05:19] <GarBage> the company name starts with an S
[05:20] <GarBage> so, he typed S, on the location bar
[05:20] <GarBage> and the history appeared ...
[05:20] <GarBage> everything was like SHEMALES.COM
[05:20] <GarBage> and shit like that
[05:21] <pwarren> lol
[05:21] <Yono> lol
[05:21] <loup> hehe
[05:21] <GarBage> so... he went further... and everything on the history were pages like that
[05:22] <GarBage> a few months later my friend leave the company and buyed a pr0n shemale CD
[05:22] <GarBage> which was left promptly and anonymously on his boss desk ;)
[05:22] <pwarren> (point of english, buyed BAD, bought is correct)
[05:23] <pwarren> lol, that's brilliant.
[05:23] <GarBage> ok, thanks for correcting it out
[05:23] <Yono> silly irregular verbs :-D
[05:23] <pwarren> silly english really.
[05:23] <GarBage> who the hell wants to work for a guy who like chixx-with-dixx ??
[05:23] <pwarren> Certainly not me.
[05:25] <pwarren> but I guess you wouldn't really know until something like that happens.
[05:25] <pwarren> maybe I'm just too square :o0
[05:28] <GarBage> don't think so
[05:28] <GarBage> *that's* being sensible
[05:29] <GarBage> a guy is a guy, and a gal's a gal, do not mix up concepts, for god's shake
[05:30] <pwarren> hmm getting a little off topic perhaps.
[05:30] <GarBage> the sole idea frightens me
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[05:32] <pwarren> (Point of English: thanks for pointing it out, or, thanks for correcting me.)
[05:32] <pwarren> what's ppls native language here?
[05:33] <GarBage> mine's Spanish
[05:36] <pwarren> a language I'd love to learn.
[05:37] <pwarren> but I'm trying out latin atm. :o)
[05:37] <pwarren> so Spanish should be easy enough after latin.
[05:37] <pwarren> being a romantic language and all.
[05:38] <GarBage> verbs are the most complicated stuff on the spanish language
[05:38] <GarBage> master that, and you'll get the whole of it
[05:38] <pwarren> as complicated as in latin, with various conjugations?
[05:38] <GarBage> yeah
[05:39] <GarBage> we do not have declinations as in german or latin, though
[05:39] <pwarren> cool, latin's going to be a summer project for me. along with my new job.
[05:39] <GarBage> why latin?
[05:40] <pwarren> because most modern european languages have some basis in latin.
[05:41] <pwarren> and because learning latin screams: INTELLECTUAL!
[05:41] <pwarren> ;o)
[05:42] <GarBage> lol, sure you're gonna pick up girls easily just by saying LATIN!
[05:42] <pwarren> hehe, not that i care about picking up anymore, but yeah!
[05:44] <GarBage> shit, my firefox build stopped with errors
[05:44] <GarBage> error C2039: 'SelectLocaleForProfile' : is not a member of 'nsDerivedSafe<T>' with T=nsIXULChromeRegistry
[05:45] <GarBage> aaargh... 30 minutes compiling for that...
[05:45] <pwarren> that sounds like poo!
[05:45] <pwarren> 30 mins, that's nothing.
[05:45] <pwarren> being an LFS freak ;o)
[05:46] <pwarren> I waited three days for an LFS compile to run, and it died on second glibc pass :o(
[05:46] <GarBage> dude.. for the time it takes to build up XFree, a new version is out
[05:47] <pwarren> well, on my older hardware, that was pretty much true. takes about 40mins on my 2Ghz athlon.
[05:48] <GarBage> second glibc pass? i thought second passes were for divx ripping and such :)
[05:48] <pwarren> well, you compile a static glibc to chroot into, then you build a _real_ glibc hopefully without any host system headers.
[05:49] <pwarren> (LFS = Linux From Scratch)
[05:49] <pwarren> u compiling firefox-1.0?
[05:49] <GarBage> yes
[05:49] <pwarren> haven't done that yet, I'm having a break from LFS...
[05:49] <pwarren> using debian :o)
[05:50] <GarBage> you're a smart guy
[05:50] <pwarren> need more bandwidth for debian to work well
[05:50] <GarBage> stay on debian
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[05:50] <pwarren> but 3.2 has about 100Mb of updates a week, that takes about 8 hours for me to download :o(
[05:51] <pwarren> anyway guys, time for me to meet the fiance after her last exam :)
[05:51] <pwarren> have a good one, and I'll bbl.
[05:52] <GarBage> ok, enjoy your weekend
[05:52] <pwarren> U to GarBage.
[05:52] <pwarren> pick the bad english in that ;o)
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[07:35] <pwarren> home again
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[11:36] <nerochiaro> good morning, anyone about ?
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[19:23] <nerochiaro> hey yono
[19:24] <Yono> hey
[19:24] <Yono> what's up?
[19:24] <nerochiaro> nothing really relevant, i guess. apart the fact that today there's a damn cold wind and i'm freezing
[19:25] <nerochiaro> but maybe even that is not relevant ;)
[19:25] <Yono> lol
[19:26] <nerochiaro> i see in the logs you have notices the pic i upped to my wiki home
[19:26] <Yono> I noticed the screen pic
[19:27] <Yono> awesome to see u have progress
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[19:28] <nerochiaro> it's not really that much. but at least i'm slowly starting to getting the hang of how it works
[19:28] <nerochiaro> i hope
[19:29] <Yono> is integerisation a word? :-/
[19:29] <nerochiaro> i think it is
[19:29] <Yono> ok
[19:29] <nerochiaro> albeit a very techincal one. but i'm not qualified to express an opinion, since i'm not a native english speaker
[19:31] <Yono> thats ok
[19:33] <Yono> indeed, I checked, its a word!
[19:33] <Yono> www.esc.auckland.ac.nz
[19:33] <Yono> at least in new zealand :-D
[19:34] <nerochiaro> heh, it might just be a kiwi word
[19:34] <nerochiaro> :)
[19:41] <nerochiaro> goes off to the kitchen. time to eat something.
[19:41] <Yono> off to play halo 2
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[21:14] <Yono> ok, I'm back if needed
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[21:26] <Yono> GarBage, u here?
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[22:16] <GarBage> sup Yono?
[22:16] <Yono> hi
[22:16] <Yono> I've been talking to the musepack people
[22:17] <Yono> (this is where I learned what it was ;)) www.hydrogenaudio.org
[22:17] <Yono> and they want to talk to someone who isn't moronic in C++ like me
[22:18] <Yono> I've been talking to one of the guys who first made the decoder
[22:20] <GarBage> aha
[22:20] <GarBage> what's the MPC license anyway?
[22:21] <Yono> LGPL
[22:22] <GarBage> fair enough
[22:24] <Yono> I sent u an email GarBage
[22:29] <GarBage> yeah, i've read it
[22:29] <Yono> good
[22:30] <Yono> you can go talk to them if you want to
[22:30] <GarBage> should you take an advice, document yourself first a bit after being prone to face those questions...
[22:31] <GarBage> by the logs i've read it seems that you're totally clueless on the neuros internals ;)
[22:31] <Yono> lol, I glanced over the neuros schematic like, once :)
[22:33] <GarBage> MPC is a *lot* easier than FLAC
[22:34] <Yono> heh
[22:34] <Yono> I figured it might be
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[22:35] <GarBage> humm... but it uses some non compliant typedefs
[22:35] <GarBage> like doubles everywhere
[22:36] <GarBage> oops and c++ OOP notation
[22:38] <GarBage> things like this are plain incompatible:
[22:38] <GarBage> MPC_decoder::initialisiere_Quantisierungstabellen ( double scale_factor )
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[22:40] <GarBage> the musepack guy is german?
[22:40] <Yono> the irc is
[22:41] <Yono> the topic is: MPC ist schnell
[22:41] <Yono> lol