| [00:43] | <GarBage> | has joined #neuros |
| [00:44] | <Yono> | hey GarBage |
| [00:44] | <Yono> | what's up? |
| [00:45] | <GarBage> | squeezing irssi a bit... it's slick |
| [00:45] | <Yono> | gave up bitchx? |
| [00:46] | <GarBage> | i haven't decided yet |
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| [00:58] | <NhJm> | bx is crap:) |
| [01:04] | <GarBage> | NhJm: i disagree, dots are crap |
| [01:05] | <Yono> | cgi.ebay.com |
| [01:05] | <Yono> | lol |
| [01:05] | <NhJm> | er? |
| [01:06] | <NhJm> | irssi is da bestest! |
| [01:07] | <NhJm> | later; tv viewing time! |
| [01:08] | <GarBage> | Yono: wtf is that? |
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| [02:01] | <pwarren> | yay for new Nvidia drivers, that just _work_! |
| [02:05] | <NhJm> | lol |
| [02:06] | <pwarren> | had a hideous time with linux 2.6.9 and nvidia 6111 |
| [02:07] | <pwarren> | nerochiaro_away: thanks for the FLAC page corrections :) |
| [02:07] | <pwarren> | anyone else got some info about the status of FLAC on the Nueros? |
| [02:09] | <NhJm> | must have flac!!!!!!!! |
| [02:09] | <NhJm> | :/:/ |
| [02:09] | <pwarren> | hehe, I know, I'm thinking about putting a bounty up for it, |
| [02:09] | <pwarren> | but I got no money atm :o( |
| [02:10] | <pwarren> | I've got an AUD$1000 a week job starting in december. (YAY!!!!!) |
| [02:10] | <NhJm> | lol |
| [02:11] | <NhJm> | aud to usd is? |
| [02:11] | <pwarren> | and also for the 'play queue' fix. |
| [02:11] | <NhJm> | *checks* |
| [02:11] | <pwarren> | = US$720 or so? |
| [02:12] | <NhJm> | 769.142 USD |
| [02:12] | <NhJm> | lol |
| [02:12] | <pwarren> | wow, 76.9 today :o) |
| [02:12] | <NhJm> | 1 AUD = 0.769142 USD |
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| [02:12] | <NhJm> | xe.com |
| [02:12] | <NhJm> | :p |
| [02:12] | <NhJm> | :P |
| [02:14] | <pwarren> | NC-17: Nice site. |
| [02:14] | <pwarren> | presses right button! |
| [02:14] | <pwarren> | NhJm: Nice site. |
| [02:14] | <NhJm> | lol |
| [02:14] | <NhJm> | i know; i found it a few years ago |
| [02:26] | <nerochiaro> | anyone still here ? |
| [02:26] | <pwarren> | yeah. |
| [02:27] | <nerochiaro> | hi, no problem for the FLAC pages corrections |
| [02:27] | <nerochiaro> | i just double checked a couple of things |
| [02:27] | <nerochiaro> | :) |
| [02:27] | <pwarren> | sweet :o) |
| [02:27] | <nerochiaro> | i'm interested too in seeing that work |
| [02:28] | <pwarren> | yeah, playing FLAC is a start. |
| [02:28] | <pwarren> | but I don't know if recording will be possible in real time with the Neuros. |
| [02:28] | <nerochiaro> | not sure myself |
| [02:28] | <nerochiaro> | I think you better ask garbage, he seems to be the one most involved with FLAC at the moment |
| [02:29] | <nerochiaro> | but still playbeck would be very good for me. the largest part of my collection is lossless and MPC |
| [02:29] | <nerochiaro> | er, playbAck |
| [02:31] | <GarBage> | OT: how do you bridge two network interfaces together on W2k? |
| [02:31] | <nerochiaro> | no idea |
| [02:31] | <pwarren> | GarBage: With difficulty I'd imagine. |
| [02:32] | <Rez> | GarBage: reliably? |
| [02:33] | <GarBage> | Rez: well, yes if possible |
| [02:33] | <Rez> | by using a 4 port switch and plugging both sides into it and a third port into the windows machine ;) |
| [02:34] | <nerochiaro> | ok people, I just stopped by to say hello, but I'm now heading straight to bed. I come in from the pub, and had really too much red beer tonight, so I need to sleep on it. Badly. Good night |
| [02:34] | <GarBage> | Rez: excellent approach, but they're virtual ones :( |
| [02:34] | <Rez> | oh. well, that sucks. |
| [02:35] | <NhJm> | lol...... |
| [02:35] | <GarBage> | nerochiaro_away: gnite man |
| [02:36] | <GarBage> | i need a win32 brctl sooo bad... |
| [02:36] | <Rez> | don't you just right click on them like everything else? |
| [02:36] | <GarBage> | lol |
| [02:37] | <GarBage> | i'd hate to install stupid XP just for that |
| [02:38] | <pwarren> | what is bridging anyway? |
| [02:38] | <GarBage> | oversimplified... mixing the two interfaces together |
| [02:39] | <GarBage> | so that traffic flows on both |
| [02:39] | <pwarren> | so 2 (or more) physical interfaces appear as one to the OS? |
| [02:39] | <GarBage> | yes, actually a third one is created |
| [02:46] | <pwarren> | cool. |
| [02:46] | <pwarren> | I'm going to go hunting for WiFi hotspots around Canberra, I'll be back when I find one :o) |
| [02:46] | <GarBage> | hehe... good hunting |
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| [04:08] | <ivel> | GarBage: are you still around? |
| [04:09] | <Yono> | hey ivel |
| [04:09] | <ivel> | hey |
| [04:10] | <ivel> | i have answers for GarBage if he's around. |
| [04:10] | <ivel> | it's a driver thing, or possibly a switch [layer 2] thing |
| [04:10] | <GarBage> | yes? |
| [04:11] | <ivel> | what kind of NICs are you using? |
| [04:11] | <GarBage> | virtual ones |
| [04:11] | <GarBage> | TAP devices |
| [04:11] | <ivel> | 3com and Intel Pro series both support it. |
| [04:11] | <ivel> | what os? |
| [04:11] | <GarBage> | W2k prof. |
| [04:12] | <ivel> | it's driver level |
| [04:13] | <GarBage> | nope, it's OS level |
| [04:13] | <ivel> | for windows 2k |
| [04:13] | <ivel> | Adapter teaming is not part of W2K. If intel nics you can either get the software off the intel cd or download from their web site. |
| [04:14] | <ivel> | what kind of switch is behind it? |
| [04:14] | <GarBage> | yep, but teaming is not the same as bridging |
| [04:15] | <GarBage> | the results are mostly the same, but not applied at the TCP/IP stack low level |
| [04:15] | <GarBage> | no switch at all, they're virtual interfaces |
| [04:15] | <GarBage> | well, actually one of them is a 3c905cTX |
| [04:16] | <ivel> | oh. i'm sorry, i didn't see the bridging |
| [04:16] | <ivel> | hrm....what is your end result wish? |
| [04:16] | <GarBage> | a flat net |
| [04:17] | <GarBage> | using a bridging VPN gateway |
| [04:17] | <GarBage> | i did it on my Debian |
| [04:17] | <GarBage> | and also on XP and W2k3 machines |
| [04:18] | <GarBage> | but no dice with w2k |
| [04:19] | <GarBage> | i suppose i could struggle myself with routing... but broadcasts won't work anyway |
| [04:19] | <ivel> | hrm... |
| [04:19] | <ivel> | i really don't know. |
| [04:20] | <GarBage> | ok |
| [04:20] | <GarBage> | thanks for trying |
| [04:22] | <ivel> | i would think it would be supported in 2k |
| [04:26] | <ivel> | what's the memory tester app in Knoppix? |
| [04:26] | <GarBage> | memory tester? |
| [04:26] | <ivel> | isn't there a command that you can run that will do a lot of reads and writes to the memory? |
| [04:27] | <ivel> | and if it's bad you'd know it. |
| [04:27] | <ivel> | remembers something....but what it is... |
| [04:27] | <GarBage> | there's a bootdisk to help you test your full range of memory |
| [04:27] | <ivel> | where? |
| [04:28] | <GarBage> | www.memtest86.com |
| [04:28] | <ivel> | that's the one i'm thinking of... |
| [04:28] | <ivel> | that's part of knoppix i think. |
| [04:31] | <ivel> | GarBage: thanks |
| [04:31] | <GarBage> | np |
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| [04:53] | <pwarren> | found myself an open hotspot :o) |
| [04:54] | <ivel> | weeeeeeee |
| [04:54] | <ivel> | cheers |
| [04:54] | <pwarren> | indeed, sitting back having a coffee and a smoke, talking to you guys :o) |
| [04:56] | <Yono> | awesome |
| [04:57] | <ivel> | cafe? |
| [04:59] | <pwarren> | indeed, a place called valentinos, in Canberra city |
| [04:59] | <pwarren> | the WiFi node is run by some local linux nerds. |
| [05:00] | <Yono> | heh |
| [05:02] | <pwarren> | anyway. |
| [05:03] | <pwarren> | GarBage: anything more for me to put on the FLAC status page? |
| [05:04] | <Yono> | we have a flac status page? |
| [05:04] | <Yono> | nvm |
| [05:04] | <Yono> | neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net |
| [05:04] | <pwarren> | heh, sure do. |
| [05:04] | <pwarren> | :o) |
| [05:05] | <Yono> | its new, I'm so 3 hours ago :-D |
| [05:05] | <GarBage> | pwarren: not ATM, i'm waiting a rendez-vous from Josh to start working on it |
| [05:06] | <pwarren> | righto, I dare say we'll all know about it when flac goes live on the Neuros ;) |
| [05:07] | <GarBage> | oh, i haven't noticed you found a place to leech, congratulation Paul |
| [05:08] | <pwarren> | GarBage: Eh? U mean the WiFi hotspot? |
| [05:08] | <GarBage> | yeah |
| [05:09] | <pwarren> | well, I'm being sensible, no ISO downloads :o) just email and chat. |
| [05:10] | <GarBage> | i wouldn't call emailing&chatting a sensible thing to do ;) |
| [05:10] | <GarBage> | pr0n always makes more sense |
| [05:11] | <pwarren> | lol, I guess so, but perhaps not in a public place |
| [05:11] | <pwarren> | at least for me. |
| [05:11] | <GarBage> | yeah, censhorship from the masses |
| [05:12] | <pwarren> | exactly, I don't want the world to know what i'm like :o) |
| [05:12] | <GarBage> | that reminds me a story... |
| [05:12] | <Yono> | I wonder why we haven't gotten any developers for MPC yet... |
| [05:12] | <pwarren> | ooh, do tell. |
| [05:12] | <GarBage> | 1 minute while i'm rolling... |
| [05:12] | <pwarren> | Yono, maybe not all that many ppl use it?? |
| [05:13] | <Yono> | I mean, I don't, but it is a nice format for a lossy |
| [05:13] | <pwarren> | I'd certainly never heard of it until it came up on the Forums. |
| [05:14] | <GarBage> | all right |
| [05:14] | <pwarren> | heh, rendez-vous := synchonisation primitive in ADA :o) |
| [05:14] | <pwarren> | waits for story... |
| [05:15] | <GarBage> | there he was, a friend of mine, working as a programmer for a very important software bussiness label |
| [05:15] | <GarBage> | and getting almost every day pissed off by his boss |
| [05:15] | <pwarren> | nods |
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| [05:16] | <GarBage> | do that, code faster, this should be done yesterday... |
| [05:16] | <GarBage> | you know, all those things |
| [05:16] | <pwarren> | indeed. |
| [05:16] | <GarBage> | and one day, his boss went on a bussiness trip |
| [05:16] | <GarBage> | and left his computer turned off |
| [05:16] | <pwarren> | oooh, this sounds good... |
| [05:17] | <GarBage> | but called the office, for someone to turn it on |
| [05:17] | <GarBage> | because he wanted to retrieve some documents he needed |
| [05:17] | <GarBage> | so, my friend turned on his boss computer |
| [05:17] | <GarBage> | and leave it there |
| [05:18] | <GarBage> | a couple of minutes after |
| [05:18] | <GarBage> | the boss called again |
| [05:18] | <GarBage> | asking for someone to check network connectivity on his computer |
| [05:18] | <GarBage> | because he couldn't get in |
| [05:19] | <GarBage> | so, my friend went back to the computer |
| [05:19] | <GarBage> | and fired up IE |
| [05:19] | <GarBage> | to show the intranet page |
| [05:19] | <GarBage> | the company name starts with an S |
| [05:20] | <GarBage> | so, he typed S, on the location bar |
| [05:20] | <GarBage> | and the history appeared ... |
| [05:20] | <GarBage> | everything was like SHEMALES.COM |
| [05:20] | <GarBage> | and shit like that |
| [05:21] | <pwarren> | lol |
| [05:21] | <Yono> | lol |
| [05:21] | <loup> | hehe |
| [05:21] | <GarBage> | so... he went further... and everything on the history were pages like that |
| [05:22] | <GarBage> | a few months later my friend leave the company and buyed a pr0n shemale CD |
| [05:22] | <GarBage> | which was left promptly and anonymously on his boss desk ;) |
| [05:22] | <pwarren> | (point of english, buyed BAD, bought is correct) |
| [05:23] | <pwarren> | lol, that's brilliant. |
| [05:23] | <GarBage> | ok, thanks for correcting it out |
| [05:23] | <Yono> | silly irregular verbs :-D |
| [05:23] | <pwarren> | silly english really. |
| [05:23] | <GarBage> | who the hell wants to work for a guy who like chixx-with-dixx ?? |
| [05:23] | <pwarren> | Certainly not me. |
| [05:25] | <pwarren> | but I guess you wouldn't really know until something like that happens. |
| [05:25] | <pwarren> | maybe I'm just too square :o0 |
| [05:28] | <GarBage> | don't think so |
| [05:28] | <GarBage> | *that's* being sensible |
| [05:29] | <GarBage> | a guy is a guy, and a gal's a gal, do not mix up concepts, for god's shake |
| [05:30] | <pwarren> | hmm getting a little off topic perhaps. |
| [05:30] | <GarBage> | the sole idea frightens me |
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| [05:32] | <pwarren> | (Point of English: thanks for pointing it out, or, thanks for correcting me.) |
| [05:32] | <pwarren> | what's ppls native language here? |
| [05:33] | <GarBage> | mine's Spanish |
| [05:36] | <pwarren> | a language I'd love to learn. |
| [05:37] | <pwarren> | but I'm trying out latin atm. :o) |
| [05:37] | <pwarren> | so Spanish should be easy enough after latin. |
| [05:37] | <pwarren> | being a romantic language and all. |
| [05:38] | <GarBage> | verbs are the most complicated stuff on the spanish language |
| [05:38] | <GarBage> | master that, and you'll get the whole of it |
| [05:38] | <pwarren> | as complicated as in latin, with various conjugations? |
| [05:38] | <GarBage> | yeah |
| [05:39] | <GarBage> | we do not have declinations as in german or latin, though |
| [05:39] | <pwarren> | cool, latin's going to be a summer project for me. along with my new job. |
| [05:39] | <GarBage> | why latin? |
| [05:40] | <pwarren> | because most modern european languages have some basis in latin. |
| [05:41] | <pwarren> | and because learning latin screams: INTELLECTUAL! |
| [05:41] | <pwarren> | ;o) |
| [05:42] | <GarBage> | lol, sure you're gonna pick up girls easily just by saying LATIN! |
| [05:42] | <pwarren> | hehe, not that i care about picking up anymore, but yeah! |
| [05:44] | <GarBage> | shit, my firefox build stopped with errors |
| [05:44] | <GarBage> | error C2039: 'SelectLocaleForProfile' : is not a member of 'nsDerivedSafe<T>' with T=nsIXULChromeRegistry |
| [05:45] | <GarBage> | aaargh... 30 minutes compiling for that... |
| [05:45] | <pwarren> | that sounds like poo! |
| [05:45] | <pwarren> | 30 mins, that's nothing. |
| [05:45] | <pwarren> | being an LFS freak ;o) |
| [05:46] | <pwarren> | I waited three days for an LFS compile to run, and it died on second glibc pass :o( |
| [05:46] | <GarBage> | dude.. for the time it takes to build up XFree, a new version is out |
| [05:47] | <pwarren> | well, on my older hardware, that was pretty much true. takes about 40mins on my 2Ghz athlon. |
| [05:48] | <GarBage> | second glibc pass? i thought second passes were for divx ripping and such :) |
| [05:48] | <pwarren> | well, you compile a static glibc to chroot into, then you build a _real_ glibc hopefully without any host system headers. |
| [05:49] | <pwarren> | (LFS = Linux From Scratch) |
| [05:49] | <pwarren> | u compiling firefox-1.0? |
| [05:49] | <GarBage> | yes |
| [05:49] | <pwarren> | haven't done that yet, I'm having a break from LFS... |
| [05:49] | <pwarren> | using debian :o) |
| [05:50] | <GarBage> | you're a smart guy |
| [05:50] | <pwarren> | need more bandwidth for debian to work well |
| [05:50] | <GarBage> | stay on debian |
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| [05:50] | <pwarren> | but 3.2 has about 100Mb of updates a week, that takes about 8 hours for me to download :o( |
| [05:51] | <pwarren> | anyway guys, time for me to meet the fiance after her last exam :) |
| [05:51] | <pwarren> | have a good one, and I'll bbl. |
| [05:52] | <GarBage> | ok, enjoy your weekend |
| [05:52] | <pwarren> | U to GarBage. |
| [05:52] | <pwarren> | pick the bad english in that ;o) |
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| [11:36] | <nerochiaro> | good morning, anyone about ? |
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| [19:23] | <nerochiaro> | hey yono |
| [19:24] | <Yono> | hey |
| [19:24] | <Yono> | what's up? |
| [19:24] | <nerochiaro> | nothing really relevant, i guess. apart the fact that today there's a damn cold wind and i'm freezing |
| [19:25] | <nerochiaro> | but maybe even that is not relevant ;) |
| [19:25] | <Yono> | lol |
| [19:26] | <nerochiaro> | i see in the logs you have notices the pic i upped to my wiki home |
| [19:26] | <Yono> | I noticed the screen pic |
| [19:27] | <Yono> | awesome to see u have progress |
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| [19:28] | <nerochiaro> | it's not really that much. but at least i'm slowly starting to getting the hang of how it works |
| [19:28] | <nerochiaro> | i hope |
| [19:29] | <Yono> | is integerisation a word? :-/ |
| [19:29] | <nerochiaro> | i think it is |
| [19:29] | <Yono> | ok |
| [19:29] | <nerochiaro> | albeit a very techincal one. but i'm not qualified to express an opinion, since i'm not a native english speaker |
| [19:31] | <Yono> | thats ok |
| [19:33] | <Yono> | indeed, I checked, its a word! |
| [19:33] | <Yono> | www.esc.auckland.ac.nz |
| [19:33] | <Yono> | at least in new zealand :-D |
| [19:34] | <nerochiaro> | heh, it might just be a kiwi word |
| [19:34] | <nerochiaro> | :) |
| [19:41] | <nerochiaro> | goes off to the kitchen. time to eat something. |
| [19:41] | <Yono> | off to play halo 2 |
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| [21:14] | <Yono> | ok, I'm back if needed |
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| [21:26] | <Yono> | GarBage, u here? |
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| [22:16] | <GarBage> | sup Yono? |
| [22:16] | <Yono> | hi |
| [22:16] | <Yono> | I've been talking to the musepack people |
| [22:17] | <Yono> | (this is where I learned what it was ;)) www.hydrogenaudio.org |
| [22:17] | <Yono> | and they want to talk to someone who isn't moronic in C++ like me |
| [22:18] | <Yono> | I've been talking to one of the guys who first made the decoder |
| [22:20] | <GarBage> | aha |
| [22:20] | <GarBage> | what's the MPC license anyway? |
| [22:21] | <Yono> | LGPL |
| [22:22] | <GarBage> | fair enough |
| [22:24] | <Yono> | I sent u an email GarBage |
| [22:29] | <GarBage> | yeah, i've read it |
| [22:29] | <Yono> | good |
| [22:30] | <Yono> | you can go talk to them if you want to |
| [22:30] | <GarBage> | should you take an advice, document yourself first a bit after being prone to face those questions... |
| [22:31] | <GarBage> | by the logs i've read it seems that you're totally clueless on the neuros internals ;) |
| [22:31] | <Yono> | lol, I glanced over the neuros schematic like, once :) |
| [22:33] | <GarBage> | MPC is a *lot* easier than FLAC |
| [22:34] | <Yono> | heh |
| [22:34] | <Yono> | I figured it might be |
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| [22:35] | <GarBage> | humm... but it uses some non compliant typedefs |
| [22:35] | <GarBage> | like doubles everywhere |
| [22:36] | <GarBage> | oops and c++ OOP notation |
| [22:38] | <GarBage> | things like this are plain incompatible: |
| [22:38] | <GarBage> | MPC_decoder::initialisiere_Quantisierungstabellen ( double scale_factor ) |
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| [22:40] | <GarBage> | the musepack guy is german? |
| [22:40] | <Yono> | the irc is |
| [22:41] | <Yono> | the topic is: MPC ist schnell |
| [22:41] | <Yono> | lol |