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[20:13] <JoshMalone> Garbage - you have a USB2 unit, right?
[20:15] <GarBage> hi ppl
[20:15] <GarBage> JoshMalone: that is correct
[20:16] <JoshMalone> I've been trying to get sync working on my 1.1 unit with your build - even the NAND format doesn't work :(
[20:17] <JoshMalone> Does anybody else work with 1.1 units? I try to test everything that's out there on mine
[20:17] <GarBage> since when? i mean all my test releases worked (should i say 'not worked'?) in the same way?
[20:18] <JoshMalone> Your latest binary from the changelog on sourceforge (I can't build...no windows :(
[20:18] <GarBage> have you tried earlier ones?
[20:20] <GarBage> or the 2.6.1.pre-7 build from Bernard Cafarelli?
[20:20] <JoshMalone> Cafarelli's builds work on mine (for sync)
[20:22] <JoshMalone> I'll try loading your earlier builds
[20:22] <GarBage> nah, Cafarelli latest build is based on my CVS branch, with a few mods
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[20:23] <GarBage> no need to try earlier ones then, i guess when 2.6.1.7 is released it will work
[20:23] <GarBage> hi nerochiaro
[20:23] <JoshMalone> Oh - okay (I wasn't sure what relation was btwn your codebases)
[20:24] <GarBage> sorry i couldnt answer to you man, been busy
[20:24] <JoshMalone> thanks!
[20:25] <GarBage> JoshMalone: np, thank you for your bug reports
[20:25] <JoshMalone> Sure - I'm happy to test anything on my 1.1, BTW
[20:26] <GarBage> i've just tripled my neuros capacity... hiya!
[20:27] <JoshMalone> how big?
[20:28] <GarBage> 60Gb right now
[20:28] <JoshMalone> awesome! I'm trying to decide btwn swapping my disk or upgrading to a USB2 unit
[20:28] <GarBage> i love 'bricolage'
[20:29] <JoshMalone> what's that?
[20:29] <GarBage> JoshMalone: for your health, do both
[20:29] <GarBage> i can't imagine rebuilding 80 Gb or so on 1.1 speeds
[20:30] <JoshMalone> thing is all my PC has is 1.1 - so 2 would just be for the future...
[20:32] <GarBage> well, usb 2.0 add-on cards are relatively cheap, me thinks
[20:34] <JoshMalone> True - guess I have no excuse then, huh :)
[20:36] <GarBage> btw, the USB 2.0 connector is on the HD backpack...
[20:36] <GarBage> get a new backpack, and you'll get mo' room and mo' speed
[20:37] <GarBage> the whole package
[20:37] <JoshMalone> yeah - that was my debate: upgrade the 1.1 disk myself, or just buy a big, fast 2 backpack instead
[20:49] <nerochiaro> Hey gar, just got home. You still there ?
[20:50] <GarBage> yeah
[20:50] <nerochiaro> No problem for the email, but since sometimes my server has hiccups, I was unsure
[20:50] <nerochiaro> that maybe your replies were lost
[20:51] <nerochiaro> Hope that asking that question in the wiki didn't cause you trouble
[20:51] <GarBage> np
[20:52] <GarBage> and about MPC
[20:52] <GarBage> all i did was translate libmusepack from OOP C++ to plain C
[20:53] <GarBage> and started math emulation for 64 bit integers
[20:53] <nerochiaro> have you looked into the source for vorbis ? is seems that they already do something suitable there that we can use
[20:54] <GarBage> since all seek operations (actually everything that involves samples or position) is done in 64 bit longs
[20:54] <nerochiaro> for the 64bit i mean
[20:54] <GarBage> yeah, that's what i did
[20:55] <nerochiaro> fine. i have been having some talks with the people in the mpc channel the last days. nice people. some of them seem much interested to discuss with you about that mpc library and the neuros
[20:56] <nerochiaro> if you have time, you might be interested in paying them a visit
[20:56] <GarBage> sure
[20:56] <nerochiaro> irc.musepack.net , channel #mpc
[20:57] <nerochiaro> the guy named DEATH is the author of the library and lefungus is another one that is working on it
[21:05] <nerochiaro> gar, i'll go eating something now. if later you have some minutes to spare, i am stil fighting with the menus and like a little help to get past a point where i'm stuck.
[21:06] <GarBage> k
[21:06] <nerochiaro> tnx
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[21:42] <JoshMalone> Garbage: thanks for your help/input - I appreciate it.
[21:42] <JoshMalone> talk to you all later
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[21:48] <nerochiaro_away> ok gar, if you are available for a little, i'll try to explain my problem
[21:49] <Yono> GarBage: over here
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[21:50] <nerochiaro_away> damn, why is that that even with xchat this server keeps disconnecting me ?
[21:51] <nerochiaro_away> anyway. what i'm trying to do is very simple. i want to add a menu under the xtra gear menu.
[21:51] <nerochiaro_away> i managed to add an item to the xtra gear menu, but when i try to add something under that, i start getting errors
[21:58] <nerochiaro_away> to be more precise, the error is 0x081C
[22:16] <GarBage> ttyl
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[22:21] <Koron> i don't suppose anyone knows when they are going to release a new version of ndbm? I tried using the newer version that bernard cafarelli posted, but I get a weird error when starting it up...
[22:21] <Koron> I want the newer version so that I can restore the artists under albums feature
[22:21] <nerochiaro__> i use sorune and that works
[22:22] <Koron> the problem is fixed in cvs for ndbm, but I don't have the slightest clue how to create a new jar for it :-/
[22:23] <nerochiaro> you can try compiling it as a regular java program, without packaging it to jar
[22:23] <nerochiaro> i think it should work the same
[22:24] <nerochiaro> does anyone knows hot to format the NAND ?
[22:25] <Koron> 1+5+play i believe
[22:25] <Yono> yep
[22:25] <Yono> then go to NAND
[22:25] <Yono> then format
[22:25] <Yono> then do a scan if you want
[22:26] <nerochiaro> the problem is, that i borked the firmware, and now i can't seem to turn off the player anymore
[22:27] <Koron> press play+up?
[22:27] <nerochiaro> yes, that worked. thanks
[22:27] <nerochiaro> man, i was kind of freaking out
[22:27] <Koron> oh, and if garbage is here, you can actually get the player to start going again after a borked recording without doing a nand format
[22:28] <Koron> after you force it off, and start it back up, it sits there forever, but eventually you can shut it down like normal
[22:28] <Koron> I can't remember if at that point you can use it like normal
[22:28] <Koron> but, when you turn it off and back on it works fine
[22:29] <Koron> and it looks like it eventually adds it to the db ok, dunno
[22:29] <nerochiaro> i do seem to be able to update to a good firmware now.
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[22:30] <JoshMalone> Koron: you having NDBM toubles?
[22:31] <Koron> well, I read that you guys fixed the artist under album thing for the next version
[22:31] <Koron> I was wondering when that is going to come out...bernard cafarelli released a jar based on the cvs, but it is borked
[22:31] <JoshMalone> Starkey pointed to a non-relase build in yesterday's IRC logs
[22:31] <Koron> hm
[22:31] <JoshMalone> I have the jar if you want
[22:32] <Koron> yeah, it would be appreciated
[22:32] <JoshMalone> www.ubergeeks.com
[22:32] <JoshMalone> just tried it on my unit - seems to work
[22:32] <Koron> ah, much better
[22:33] <Koron> I'll try it later, actually about to go out
[22:33] <Koron> thanks
[22:33] <JoshMalone> np
[22:33] <nerochiaro> josh: cool domain name you have there
[22:33] <JoshMalone> it's a friend of mine's
[22:33] <JoshMalone> he's gotten 4-digit $$$ offers for it, but he's not gonna give it up
[22:34] <nerochiaro> good choice, i would do the same. at least until the digits go to 5 or 6 ;)
[22:34] <JoshMalone> heheh
[22:34] <JoshMalone> well - he's had it since way before vanity domains were the vogue
[22:35] <JoshMalone> I help him admin the box; he gives me a shell on it, disk space, etc.
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[22:35] <Koron> yeah, if only some of us had had the foresight to buy domains early on
[22:35] <Koron> they were expensive years ago, but eh
[22:35] <Koron> could have sold them for mucho dinero during the . com boom
[22:35] <JoshMalone> yeah - you could really make it up today, couldn't ya
[22:35] <Koron> not as much as a few years ago, but definitely
[22:36] <nerochiaro> nice deal josh
[22:37] <Koron> heh, my boss back home actually owns the .com of a certain domain
[22:37] <Koron> and have happened to have the people who own the .net buy stuff from us
[22:37] <Koron> I am still trying to get the .com of my full name
[22:37] <JoshMalone> heheh
[22:38] <Koron> the guy who owns it always lets it expire every year
[22:38] <JoshMalone> LOL
[22:38] <Koron> but he gets like a 1.5 month grace period
[22:38] <Koron> and always renews a month after it expires
[22:38] <Koron> :(
[22:38] <Koron> and he has never put anything up on it
[22:38] <Koron> mildly annoying
[22:38] <JoshMalone> stupid - yeah, my friend is a OpenSRS reseller - he bought ubergeeks.com for like 10 years
[22:38] <Koron> i figure he is so cheap to not buy more than one year at a time and before it expires
[22:39] <Koron> that maybe he will actually let it go one of these years
[22:39] <Koron> i own the .net and .org
[22:39] <JoshMalone> actually, I think he has .com .net and .org now
[22:39] <nerochiaro> shit ! something is profoundly wrong with my neuros
[22:39] <Koron> but i want the triumvirate of domains
[22:39] <JoshMalone> heheh - don't we all :)
[22:40] <Koron> i even bought the .us even though that is worthless
[22:40] <JoshMalone> nerochiaro: what's wrong?
[22:40] <Koron> there was some deal to get it for like $3 for a year
[22:40] <nerochiaro> that 1+5+play combo, should it work when the player is off, right ?
[22:40] <Koron> it should start it up
[22:40] <Koron> with a special menu
[22:41] <nerochiaro> it doesn't work for me
[22:41] <Yono> start with the presets, then hold down play
[22:41] <JoshMalone> make sure you press the buttons hard enough - those preset buttons tend to be hard to contact (for me, at least)
[22:41] <Yono> or have GarBage get back here and explain the HiSi + Play menu
[22:42] <nerochiaro> when i try 1+5+play, doing what yono said, the screen turns on, but nothing is on it
[22:42] <Yono> ouch
[22:42] <JoshMalone> re-seat the brain, maybe?
[22:43] <Yono> yea, take the brain out and charge the backpack alone for a little while
[22:43] <nerochiaro> i'll use the other backpack. should be charged up well
[22:44] <nerochiaro> same thing. screen lights up, but nothing else
[22:44] <Yono> ok, you got brain problems
[22:44] <nerochiaro> yep. it's due to my bad fw, but i can't take it out
[22:44] <Koron> that's not a nice thing to say :-p
[22:44] <Yono> wait for GarBage to come back, then ask about HiSi + Play
[22:44] <Yono> DO NOT DO IT WITHOUT HIM
[22:45] <Yono> its hidden for a reason
[22:45] <nerochiaro> ok
[22:46] <JoshMalone> weird - HiSi still wakes the unit from sleep even though Cafarelli fixed the 'turn off hisi' feature
[22:46] <nerochiaro> yes, i noticed that
[22:47] <nerochiaro> oh well, i will go brew myself a cup of oolong. later.
[22:47] <JoshMalone> nero: have you checked that none of the other preset buttons are stuck depressed?
[22:47] <Yono> bbl
[22:48] <JoshMalone> l8rz yono, nero
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[23:01] <nerochiaro> hey paul
[23:02] <JoshMalone> well - another workday dead and twitching on the floor :)
[23:03] <nerochiaro> :)
[23:03] <JoshMalone> Time for my nice, freezing cold walk home
[23:04] <nerochiaro> don't tell me. i had enough cold for today
[23:04] <pwarren> Heya!
[23:04] <pwarren> what's doin?
[23:04] <nerochiaro> all fine. and you ?
[23:04] <pwarren> cold, it's 31C here!
[23:04] <pwarren> not bad at all!
[23:05] <pwarren> listening to Hail to The Theif again.
[23:05] <nerochiaro> for a moment i hated you, paul. just for a moment
[23:05] <nerochiaro> great record
[23:05] <pwarren> :o)
[23:05] <JoshMalone> 59F here
[23:06] <JoshMalone> so...about 15C
[23:06] <nerochiaro> paul, i saw the pictures you put online
[23:06] <pwarren> JoshMalone: that's not too cold really.
[23:06] <pwarren> nerochiaro: nice!
[23:06] <nerochiaro> please cross your fingers for a second. thanks
[23:06] <JoshMalone> crosses fingers for nero
[23:07] <pwarren> too.
[23:08] <nerochiaro> YES |
[23:08] <nerochiaro> my neuros have been resurrected
[23:08] <JoshMalone> woohoo!
[23:08] <nerochiaro> :)
[23:08] <pwarren> Woot!
[23:08] <JoshMalone> whadaja do?
[23:08] <JoshMalone> w007
[23:08] <pwarren> brb. door...
[23:08] <nerochiaro> shut it down with UP+PLAY, then DN+PLAY and attached USB
[23:09] <JoshMalone> cool
[23:09] <nerochiaro> then upped non borked fw and prayed
[23:09] <JoshMalone> well - I'm off; ttyal
[23:09] <nerochiaro> bye
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[23:14] <pwarren> b
[23:14] <pwarren> yeah. I've had to do taht before too.
[23:15] <nerochiaro> anyway, you clothes really did look nice in the pictures
[23:15] <pwarren> Cheers! One of our freinds made them for us.
[23:16] <pwarren> I found the material in an upholstery shop!
[23:16] <nerochiaro> cool. it's very appropriate for a ceremony of that kind
[23:16] <pwarren> heh, I thougth so.
[23:17] <nerochiaro> i read a bit about it... it comes in 2 flavors right ? permanent, and one you want to renew every new year or so
[23:17] <nerochiaro> what was yours ?
[23:17] <pwarren> that's correct.
[23:17] <pwarren> Alothough it can really be whatever you want.
[23:17] <pwarren> Ours was for a year and a day.
[23:18] <pwarren> but I know ppl who have been bound for "The next life" too.
[23:18] <nerochiaro> that's really forward looking, indeed
[23:18] <pwarren> yeah, bit much for me.
[23:18] <nerochiaro> heh, i can understand that :)
[23:20] <nerochiaro> here, with the vatican next door and all that, people is not used to that kind of stuff. the word "pagan" is seen as almost the same as satanic rituals and such crap
[23:20] <pwarren> *Sigh*
[23:20] <nerochiaro> i agree, it's sad
[23:20] <pwarren> That's pretty much the popular opinoin round here too.
[23:21] <pwarren> man my typing is bad today!
[23:21] <nerochiaro> np, mine is worst, usually
[23:22] <pwarren> www.brindabella-nemeton.org
[23:23] <pwarren> a bit outdated now, but might still be some interesting stuff.
[23:24] <nerochiaro> nice, i'll look at that
[23:24] <nerochiaro> wait a sec, i have some pics for ya too
[23:24] <pwarren> nice!
[23:24] <pwarren> dialup warning!
[23:25] <nerochiaro> eek ! well, you can try anyway. but they are many. celtica2004.fotopic.net
[23:25] <nerochiaro> captions are in italian, sorry
[23:26] <nerochiaro> it's a celtic festival that is held every year in italy. biggest one around here, i think.
[23:28] <pwarren> looks pretty cool. A really nice forest.
[23:29] <nerochiaro> yes,it's in the alpine region.right under a glacier.
[23:29] <nerochiaro> pretty cold at night, but lots of alchool and dances to keep us warm
[23:29] <pwarren> hehe. sounds familiar :o)
[23:30] <pwarren> which one is you?
[23:31] <nerochiaro> heh, look in chapter four. i'm NOT the one driving the car at the end.
[23:33] <nerochiaro> and in all the pictures where i appear, i'm badly drunk, so it's not my best side ;)
[23:33] <pwarren> the sleepy one then :o)
[23:33] <nerochiaro> yep. badly sleepy. dead drunk i would say
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[23:33] <pwarren> lol...
[23:33] <nerochiaro> also the idiot with the flower ring on the head
[23:34] <nerochiaro> the row above that
[23:34] <pwarren> :o)
[23:35] <nerochiaro> :)
[23:36] <nerochiaro> and now i think i will cover in shame and retreat into doing some actual work. later people.
[23:37] <pwarren> no shame.
[23:37] <pwarren> C ya!
[23:37] <JoshMalone> later
[23:37] <JoshMalone> now it's time to re-build my database - wheee
[23:39] <JoshMalone> hmmm...an exception occurred but it's still rebuilding
[23:39] <pwarren> nerochiaro: Nice bonfire!!
[23:41] <nerochiaro> yes, that was very nice
[23:41] <nerochiaro> there was a ritual ceremony before lighting it up
[23:42] <pwarren> yeah, looks cool.
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[23:42] <pwarren> July eh. I might be in europe in 2 years.
[23:43] <nerochiaro> well, if you like this kind of things, it's certainly something you want to be part of. lasts three days
[23:43] <nerochiaro> why are you coming in europe ?
[23:44] <pwarren> Holidays!!!
[23:44] <pwarren> well, hopefully. I'll have finished my degree
[23:44] <nerochiaro> ah ! great then
[23:44] <pwarren> and hopefully have been working for a bit.
[23:44] <pwarren> plus I've never been out of Australia.
[23:45] <nerochiaro> it's a lot of money for the trip to here. you are on the other side of the globe.
[23:45] <nerochiaro> well, the kiwis are exactly on the other side, Australia is a little bit off center
[23:46] <pwarren> hehe. I'll be saving for a while, might be 3 years.
[23:46] <pwarren> but definately sooner than 5 years!
[23:46] <nerochiaro> well, i definitely hope you can make it
[23:47] <pwarren> cheers!
[23:47] <pwarren> I'm out for a bit bbl...
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[23:49] <JoshMalone> hmmm...this xchat is a bit different than at work...
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