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[01:25] <noiz> anyone here?
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[01:39] <nceterval> I was wondering how daunting a task replacing my Neuros' headphone jack would be for someone with but minor soldering experience.
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[01:59] <Yono> hey noiz
[01:59] <noiz> hey
[01:59] <noiz> whats up?
[02:00] <noiz> anything been going on in here today?
[02:00] <unknown_lamer> has to fix his power port
[02:00] <unknown_lamer> Stupid thing is coming loose ... again
[02:00] <unknown_lamer> A dab of solder should fix it.
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[02:13] <GarBage_> hi
[02:13] <Yono> hey
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[02:15] <GarBage_> could you Yono quit putting words in my mouth, please?
[02:17] <Yono> never
[02:18] <GarBage_> oh man..
[02:18] <GarBage_> seriously, it is not funny anymore
[02:18] <Yono> wait, what did I do this time?
[02:19] <Yono> I'm just talkin to Joe! I deny anything until the lawyers get me
[02:19] <GarBage_> ;)
[02:20] <Yono> america's commodity is lawyers :)
[02:27] <GarBage_> ok, for the records, let's say i never thought OCing the DSP was a good idea, and also i do not support the Tetris stuff
[02:28] <Yono> what's that?
[02:28] <Yono> you supported OCing since the very beginning? ;)
[02:29] <GarBage> only in your weirds dreams ;)
[02:29] <GarBage> actually i lowered the clock frequency on my builds
[02:29] <GarBage> check the changelog
[02:29] <Yono> actually, weird doesn't have to be plural
[02:30] <Yono> thats only spanish that adj have to be plural if they are talking about plural nouns
[02:30] <Yono> :-D
[02:30] <GarBage> oh... Ubuntu finally booted up
[02:31] <GarBage> i had to get rid of xfs , though
[02:36] <noiz> hey GarBage, do i need to have a login for the cvs in order to get the latest source of your firmware or can i just log in anonymously?
[02:36] <GarBage> noiz: anonymous CVS should work
[02:37] <noiz> becuase when i have tried to get it anonymously it always seems to not work when i try and compile it
[02:37] <GarBage> it takes longer to refresh when a commit is done, but right now it is up to date
[02:39] <GarBage> share your problems with us, be specific, and maybe we could help you in getting your build done
[02:42] <noiz> becuase when i did it before it would always build fine, but then when i put the new build on the neuros, it would acually just be 2.23
[02:45] <GarBage> are you sure everything goes ok? are you getting the right woid.hex file?
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[02:46] <GarBage> furthermore, are you following the steps in the howto?
[02:48] <noiz> yeah, i followed the howto every step
[02:50] <GarBage> got any error? using the latest CVS?
[03:08] <noiz> no errors
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[04:17] <@Starkey> Monkeys
[04:18] <Yono> hey starkey
[04:18] <@Starkey> Are you a C expert yet?
[04:18] <Yono> lol, I wish
[04:19] <@Starkey> Hehe, why not? C is pretty easy. Do you know any other languages?
[04:19] <Yono> german :)
[04:19] <@Starkey> No computer languages?
[04:20] <@Starkey> :)
[04:20] <Yono> I know the basics of Basic
[04:20] <@Starkey> OK. Then the basics shouldn't be too hard to pick up. if statements, while loops, for loops, etc...
[04:20] <@Starkey> That's all there is to C. :)
[04:20] <@Starkey> Don't try to look too hard into it. It's not very complicated.
[04:20] <@Starkey> Unlike some other languages.
[04:21] <Yono> yea, but then there's C++
[04:21] <@Starkey> Don't worry about C++. It's a different animal.
[04:21] <Yono> indeed it is
[04:21] <Yono> no problems with last nights build
[04:21] <@Starkey> Once you've mastered C, I recommend you learn Java. Java is much more forgiving than C++
[04:21] <Yono> of NDBM
[04:22] <@Starkey> Yeah, I used it with no problems either. Thanks for testing.
[04:22] <Yono> yea, but from what I've heard, its a slow lanugage to program
[04:22] <@Starkey> Java is slow to program?
[04:22] <@Starkey> That's a bunch of BS.
[04:22] <@Starkey> :)
[04:22] <@Starkey> And I'm not biased. I use C++ in my job.
[04:22] <Yono> alright, I trust u, u actually program it
[04:23] <Yono> I gtg, ttyl
[04:23] <@Starkey> Okie dokie
[04:23] <Yono> and off to NYC tommorow I hope
[04:23] <@Starkey> Enjoy! Should be fun
[04:23] <Yono> yea
[04:23] <Yono> haven't been there for thanksgiving in a long time
[04:23] <Yono> cya
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[04:23] <ivel> have a good one Yono
[04:24] <ivel> too late :(
[04:24] <@Starkey> You missed
[04:24] <ivel> how's CO?
[04:24] <@Starkey> Snow yesterday
[04:24] <@Starkey> Melting today
[04:24] <@Starkey> More snow tomorrow perhaps
[04:24] <ivel> ohhhh should call sister and pick on her.
[04:24] <@Starkey> :)
[04:24] <@Starkey> I want snow!
[04:24] <@Starkey> Skiing!
[04:24] <@Starkey> Yeah
[04:25] <ivel> she moved out of NY to VA....
[04:25] <ivel> then to there....LOL
[04:25] <ivel> it's a big transition for her now....LOL
[04:25] <@Starkey> We actually don't get a lot of snow down here
[04:25] <@Starkey> VA gets more snow than we do
[04:25] <@Starkey> I bet
[04:25] <@Starkey> NY definitely does
[04:25] <ivel> then Denver?
[04:25] <ivel> area?
[04:25] <@Starkey> Yup
[04:26] <ivel> hrm....didn't know that...
[04:26] <ivel> is it cause you're right on the border of the flats?
[04:26] <@Starkey> The funny thing about snow in CO is that we might get snow then it melts because its sunny and 45 the next day
[04:26] <@Starkey> Yes, we are not *in* the mountains
[04:26] <@Starkey> The mountains get feet of snow
[04:27] <@Starkey> The snow storm on Sunday gave us about three inches
[04:27] <@Starkey> It's all gone today
[04:27] <ivel> garden of the Gods was spectacular though.....
[04:27] <@Starkey> Hehe, I work about 1 mile from GotG
[04:27] <@Starkey> Maybe two miles
[04:28] <@Starkey> I've walked there during lunch
[04:31] <ivel> military?
[04:31] <ivel> [seems that a lot of that is out there....]
[04:31] <@Starkey> Nope, Agilent
[04:32] <ivel> no idea what that is...
[04:32] <@Starkey> Agilent used to be part of HP. Heard of them? :)
[04:32] <ivel> LOL
[04:33] <ivel> actually i think you've told me that before...
[04:33] <@Starkey> When HP split up, the test equipment went to Agilent
[04:33] <ivel> yeah i do remember that.
[04:33] <ivel> so you write embedded stuff?
[04:34] <@Starkey> No, we write a VoIP analyzer. Runs on Sun boxes
[04:34] <ivel> oh i see
[04:34] <@Starkey> So basically I pull apart internet packets. :)
[04:35] <ivel> sweet
[04:35] <ivel> challenging?
[04:35] <@Starkey> Yes, always new technologies
[04:35] <@Starkey> The protocol I am working on was just approved to RFC last month
[04:35] <ivel> LOL
[04:35] <@Starkey> When I started, it wasn't a RFC
[04:35] <ivel> that's neat
[04:36] <@Starkey> The problem is there usually isn't a lot of information on the web, other than the specs
[04:36] <@Starkey> And reading an RFC is not very easy
[04:36] <ivel> no doubt
[04:37] <ivel> that stuff is technical, but almost legally written
[04:37] <ivel> lawyer speak
[04:37] <@Starkey> It's very specific
[04:37] <@Starkey> Which is bad if you want an overview to understand what is going on
[04:37] <ivel> yup
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[04:52] <Starkey> pokes nerochiaro
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[05:12] <pwarren> has given up on LFS-6.0
[05:12] <pwarren> back to my trusty old Slackware 10 :o)
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