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i'm just wondering, i really wish i had a more solid grasp of compilers, but will this tigcc be responsible for converting C to the dsp's assembly, which can then be fed through another (simple) app to binarize it?

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yes, typically gcc outputs assembly, which the assembler from binutils translates to object code

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i thought i have seen a binutils 54x project from when DI originally released the firmware source

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<eozl>

and we need a gcc port so we can do development independent of the microsoft tools ?

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<Koron>

you mean TI

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<eozl>

ah, i see, yeah i'm a bit confused where microsoft .net enters this whole firmware game

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.net really doesn't have anything to do with the firmware, except with some of the tools, i believe

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who means TI? i don't......

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yeah well i'm not at all interested in a proprietary compiler

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<eozl>

but in the meantime, even if you have to run that compiler in vmware or whatever, you can still extend the firmware ?

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<eozl>

deltazap, how vital are these buildtools that don't compile without .net?

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I could be confused and thinking of the .net stuff that is with the database stuff

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yeah, i was thinking of the database dlls

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<eozl>

tight, i'm more interested in the firmware and playing with the hardware (p2p over fm with 3meter radius?), this should be most interesting :)

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damn that's a sweet idea eozl

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i wonder if there are any exitsing fm protocols over FM?

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data protocols of course

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morse code :D

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wireless IM protocol for the future of the Neuros

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<eozl>

that'd be the coolest thing, trying out new protocols, wireless from scratch on real hardware :)

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<eozl>

can you tell i'm quite pleased with all this ?

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yes :)

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<eozl>

you know another cool application would be a little cellphone keypad for sms-style input, which you can get working also wirelessly :p

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<eozl>

i'm not seeing an easy way to plug in anything

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<unknown_lamer>

bluetooth.

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<unknown_lamer>

(add it ;)

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<eozl>

could perhaps add an input device through the line-in (i'm making castles in the sky here)

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<unknown_lamer>

There's already code in there to convert it into a wav.

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<unknown_lamer>

Just use code sequences and above a certain voltage vs. below

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<unknown_lamer>

and analyse the wav.

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<eozl>

pretty much

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<eozl>

build a device that just tacks off a certain voltage off the supply given through the wire depending on which key was pressed

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<eozl>

with 12-14 key keypad, might be doable

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<unknown_lamer>

Or have it pop off a series of blips.

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<eozl>

oho! even simpler

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<eozl>

pulse dial

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<unknown_lamer>

it makes timing important

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<unknown_lamer>

But meh

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<eozl>

how good is it as a player? i'm thinking of buying one

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<unknown_lamer>

It's great.

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<eozl>

...obviously, since i expect i need one to do all this with

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<eozl>

ah, how big is it?

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<unknown_lamer>

My battery is shot but it's my fault for not ordering a new one yet.

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<unknown_lamer>

Kind of big.

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<eozl>

fits in cargo pants pockets?

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<unknown_lamer>

I can fit it into my pocket if I am wearing loose pants.

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<unknown_lamer>

So yeah.

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<Koron>

i wear it with semi tight jeans sometimes

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<eozl>

interesting, it definitely sends a different message than the ipod and other stuff

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<Koron>

in those the pocket is just the right size

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<Koron>

bigger pants or just pants with larger pockets fit it pretty easily

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<unknown_lamer>

the iPod is simple and sleek

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<unknown_lamer>

The Neuros is large and functional.

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<Koron>

it's not heavy by any stretch of the imagination

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<unknown_lamer>

I'll take large and functional any day.

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<Koron>

the neuros isn't really ugly...just a tad big

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<unknown_lamer>

Mostly because I killed my 20G drive and just popped an 80G drive in with no problems.

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<unknown_lamer>

it fits well with my 91 Camaro (80s all the way)

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<unknown_lamer>

What with the gray head, black backpack, and orange backlight.

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<unknown_lamer>

It looks like it belongs in my car.

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<eozl>

nice!

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<eozl>

so it just uses a 2.5" harddrive ?

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<Koron>

yep

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<eozl>

tiiight

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<Koron>

acts like a hard drive enclosure of sorts when you hook it up via USB...just appears as another drive

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<eozl>

perfect!

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<eozl>

in the forums, there were quite a few complaints about broken players and such

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<eozl>

i assume they are random electronic anomalies

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<Koron>

i haven't had any problems with mine...but support is pretty snappy if you call them up I do believe

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