Log from #neuros IRC channel

but everything appears to be in order now

which is weird, i've been fussing with this thing (literally) all day

[Chameleon]: well, i was just looking at you to ask you if can avoid pulling off that "SysInfo" message that you emit from time to time

I'm jealous inkedmn

lol

SmrtJustin: what's the issue?

cant get it to turn on

is it charged/charging?

yep

I had it on before

then it froze, and now I cant get it back on

what about if you hold down DOWN + PLAY?

inkedmn: well, maybe the neuros noticed you were so smart to came here and decided that you were a worthy owner and started working again ;)

nerochiaro: heh, this isn't even my neuros :)

inkedmn: tried it

mine works fine, this one belongs to my wife's brother

SmrtJustin: i imagine you did dislodge and reseat the brain many many times too ?

countless times

SmrtJustin: how about 1+5+PLAY ?

once I got the backlight to come on, but nothing happened, and then when I touched a button it turned off

is that n2 ?

inkedmn: tried it

SmrtJustin: what happens when you connect the usb cable?

nothing, the kernel doesnt even notice it

SmrtJustin: is yours a neuros 2 or 1 ?

but if I take the brain off, and connect it to usb, it looks like a USB hard drive

nerochiaro: 2

just got it today

2 is USB 2 right?

or the USB 2 one*

2 is usb2 compatible

yeah then thats the one I have

SmrtJustin: have you tried plugging in the power cord and leaving it there for some time ?

my computer doesn't have usb2, so i use 1.1

nerochiaro: yep

nothing ever happens

if you connect the power cable, it doesn't show the "charging" screen?

nope

the backback's light is flashing though

SmrtJustin: so go for support man, it's broken

<[Chameleon]>

nerochiaro: I've put that message in here twice.

yeah, too bad they arent open till Monday

<[Chameleon]>

nerochiaro: the 2nd time for Yono

<[Chameleon]>

nerochiaro: I could have, and maybe should have, private queried him to do so

<Yono>

?

I wanted to show up my friends at New Years...but maybe next year lol

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<[Chameleon]>

Yono: nerochiaro's upset at me for putting my sysinfo message on here twice.

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[Chameleon]: ok, sorry to have asked then, i was under the impression it was one of these annoying auto messages. beg your pardon.

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<[Chameleon]>

nerochiaro: OK. It's definitely manual.

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[Chameleon]: no problem then. i'm a bit of a taleban when it comes to that auto crap that kiddies use without ever knowing how to turn it off ;)

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notices his pregnant wife has fallen asleep, opens a beer

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lmao

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<[Chameleon]>

nerochiaro: yeah, no problem. sometimes it pisses me off, too.

inkedmn: cheers!

nerochiaro: :)

*that was wierd*

what ?

i need to put some music on here

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I slowly plugged in the power cord and everything flashed

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SmrtJustin: I asked you about the power cord because i had a problem similar to yours, that was caused by garbage's new fw appearently: it didn't power on anymore. I solved it plugging in the power cord.

SmrtJustin: are you using that fw build ?

yeah I've tried unplugging and plugging in the fw

no it has on it now, the unreleased tetris official

ah, then i dunno

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whats the USB port on the brain for?

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<iswm>

Flash memory I think.

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oh

[00:58]

why doesnt it come w/ a cable for that?

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<iswm>

Not sure

it does, mine did at least

<iswm>

I may be wrong though, but from what I've heard, normal brains have 64MB of flash, but you have to buy a $20 I think backpack to use it.

yeah

this Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale = the big winner

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yes, in fact i bought a combo 40gb+256mb. came with 2 backpacks, one w/ hd and one w/ battery alone, for use w/ the flash

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has the 30gb+128mb

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<iswm>

Ah, so I guess they don't pack a 1.1 cable unless you buy a bundle.

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probably not

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<iswm>

Mine didn't come with a cable from the brain either. So you're not alone.

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mine came with both cables

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but the 1.1 cables are cheap and easy to come by

yes, it's the 2.0 that is proprietary and sucks

yeah

how do i have that choice

needs to find a good usb2 card for linu

x

*hate*

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"open" player, proprietary cable. mmmh

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heh

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<Yono>

nero: there's actually a topic about that, NA is regreting it

and if you ask me, the justification Katrin gave in the forums doesn't make a lot of sense

<Yono>

could you link me up?

i'll go fish it

ok, this thing looks like it's ready to rock

[01:06]

got some music on there and listening now, no issues

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still going to file a support request though, just to make sure

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<[Chameleon]>

inkedmn: where are you located?

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Merry XMAS

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<Yono>

hey keith

Yono: can't find that post right now, sorry

[Chameleon]: southern california, US

<Yono>

its alright

<[Chameleon]>

inkedmn: oh really? I was born in Pomona and lived in Ontario for 10 years.

hah, nice

we live in Fullerton

<[Chameleon]>

ah, cool

where are you now?

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has to write a tag-normalizer for his brother-in-law's shoddy mp3 collection

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<[Chameleon]>

inkedmn: Tacoma, WA

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<Yono>

cool, send me a copy :)

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<Yono>

inkedmn, mine is unorganized too

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<[Chameleon]>

inkedmn: these cards should work for you:

<[Chameleon]>

<[Chameleon]>

<[Chameleon]>

This is the card that I have and I know it works in Linux:

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<[Chameleon]>

www.compgeeks.com

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I got a neuros case for christmas.

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Yono: found it: The use of the custom cable was a choice made by our head electical engineer. I do not know his mind. We make choices, and not everyone is involved in every decision that is made, we would be in meetings all day long if we did that.

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from katryin, in this thread: www.neurosaudio.com

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<Yono>

well, I kinda see what Kathryn meant

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<Yono>

and the USB 1.1 isn't proprietary

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to me, is a weak justification

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<Yono>

so its not like you can never hook it up without the proprietary cord, you just can't use USB 2.0 without the proprietary cord

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<Yono>

companies have done much worse before

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Yono: well, having 1.1 speed to transfer some gigs of data is suicide at best

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and yes, they have done much worse, but they were not flying the "open" flag

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<Yono>

I know, but sometimes its better to do an overnight sync than not transfer at all

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Yono: i'm talking about transfering music, i'm talking about using the device as a portable HD

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<Yono>

sync can also mean tranfer :-P

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<Yono>

I use the words interchangable

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<Yono>

*interchangably

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Yono: well, for the way i often use it, that cable is a pain. suppose i'm around and stop at a friend's place and he has some cool stuff that he wants to give me, several MBs of stuff... do you always tote your cable around ?

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me, i don't

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<Yono>

no, but I also don't have friends with music on their computers that isn't from itunes :-P

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well, anyway. that's the way it is, it's useless complaining, i know. but if they at least would have the decency to comment on that post i made asking what do they think of selling an adapter...

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is off to sleep. good night, or good whatever you have there at the moment

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I think I'm gonna leave the backpack on the charger overnight and then tomorrow I'll try putting the brain back in

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i love when this happens...

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www.securityfocus.com

happy xmas, windows

<Yono>

<Yono>

godamnit, I'm gonna kill starkey

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<Yono>

are nerochiaro or GarBage here?

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<Yono>

I can't save a topic to the wiki

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<Yono>

it won't show me the save changes button

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<Yon1>

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<Yono>

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Yon1: what's up w/ the wiki?

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<Yon1>

I'm creating a new topic, and there is no save changes button

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<Yon1>

so I try to click show wiki commands, and it brings me back to the page does not exist page

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humm...

Playing Stream: < Radio Free Vestibule - Christmas On Acid (Xmas in Frisco: SomaFM's eclectic holiday mix. Not for the easily offended. [SomaFM]) > [kara.fast-serv.com

lmao

Yon1: i'm using the dragon skin, what's yours?

<Yon1>

dragon

don't you see a "preview changes" button?

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<Yon1>

and I can't change it back because there is no save changes button :-P

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<Yon1>

no I don't

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are you sure you're actually editing a topic?

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<Yon1>

yes

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<Yon1>

img154.exs.cx

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err.. that's not the dragon template

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that's the one from nero

guestweb

<Yon1>

great

<Yon1>

but I CANT CHANGE IT

lol

<Yon1>

because I can't edit anything

<Yon1>

>:o

i can

let me change it for you

<Yon1>

thanks

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done

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<Yon1>

I can edit again!

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lol

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wonders if that fw had anything to do with his problem

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probably not...

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<Yon1>

what'd u use?

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the one you got me for Christmas Yono *wink* *wink*

SmrtJustin: what did i told you, boy?

<Yono>

right, I think everyone on the channel knows about the tetris fw by now

I know I was joking

GarBage: I didnt use the OpenSource firmware

<Yono>

and I'm not here for the next week to get pounded on anyway :)

i told you to keep the official firmware on it, just that ;)