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I can't stress about that now, though. Things are good right now. I have lots of time to work on this project (just dropped my silly freshman-level class!).

[01:44]

<GreatDay_>

chreekat: But those classes are soo much fun! ;)

[01:45]

Not if you're a super-senior with your mind on other things. :)

[01:46]

<GreatDay_>

yup..but it's all good! ( been there myself ...grr...getting mad just thinking about it..)

[01:46]

<eozl>

yeah, it was pretty shocking when i walk into my microeconomics class and it turns out i'm the oldest person in it

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Hehe, it would be more fun than taking it as a freshman, though. When I learned about a paper the class has to write, it didn't induce near as much dread. "Ooh, I can practice LaTeX" instead of "Arrggghhh when will I have time to write a paper??!"

[01:47]

<GreatDay_>

lol...mine was freshman Math (110 or so I belive) ...and that was my senior year!!!

[01:48]

<GreatDay_>

...you know you've written too many papers if the word LaTeX doesn't even phsase you any more...

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haha

[01:48]

I finally got the Leslie Lamport book a week ago

[01:48]

<GreatDay_>

Poor soul

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because I only got it a week ago, or because I'm trying to read through it?

[01:49]

<GreatDay_>

he, he,..both :)

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I was gonna say, I could go either way at this point. :) It has been really helpful in understanding the philosophy of LaTeX though. Should make it easier in the long run.

[01:52]

<GreatDay_>

My hat's off to you..always been to lazzy to read up ..just kept picking stuff up along the way..

[01:53]

<GreatDay_>

...but on the other hand it's that philosophy that's kept me on this road way too long!!!

[02:02]

hmn. when ripping opera, do you think it's better to have each act or scene be one big file (pasting tracks from the CDs together) or to have each track be its own file (as when ripping other music)?

[02:02]

<GreatDay_>

Each track their own file!

[02:03]

<eozl>

each track its own file cuz music commentary and analysis will refer to specific scenes in the opera and you don't want to be going back and forth looking for the start of the scene when doing cross-referencing

[02:04]

eozl: i could put each scene in its own file, though

[02:05]

<eozl>

one track != one scene?

[02:05]

correct

[02:05]

<GreatDay_>

But hwat about if you only want tolisten to the orchestral parts (i.e. overtures? ) then you'd have to search the entire file..same goes obviously for arias( though I'm not a vocalist so less interesting to me)

[02:06]

GreatDay_, that's what i'm thinking i might like to be able to do... i know most of the music well enough that i can jump to where i want in it, though. i just don't like having gaps in the middle of a intense bit of music

[02:06]

an intense

[02:07]

<GreatDay_>

so what you realy are after is gapless playback?

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that, plus it's easier to tag and sort fewer large files than many little ones

[02:08]

<Yono>

chreekat: sorry I haven't been paying attention, what is your project?

[02:08]

<GreatDay_>

Well sounds like a personal preferece problem ..if you only have a few "larger" works acts or movemenst would probably be ok... but I find myself going back to stuff and then I can never recall where anythingw as at!

[02:09]

yeah. i'm trying to see what other people think and if they've tried one way and really like it for some reason

[02:10]

these tagging formats were not decided by people who listened to classical music, is all i can say

[02:11]

<GreatDay_>

The way I look at it is that the audio engeniers/producers who decided on the track normaly haver a pretty good idea as far as both thematic and formal seperation is concerned and so why mess with stuff people have spent hours on separating?

[02:11]

<GreatDay_>

nollidj: I agree on the tag part all the way!

[02:11]

this is a good point. hmn

[02:23]

Yono: The goal is to port gcc to the Neuros' DSP

[02:24]

Well, I guess the *final* goal is to be able to compile the firmware with gcc, but porting to the DSP by itself is a pretty big intermediate goal. :)

[02:25]

Time for dinner

[02:33]

<Yono>

awesome

[03:49]

so... how would it be possible right now to take a look at neuros firmware code?

[06:49]

<iswm>

nollidj, open.neurosaudio.com

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<iswm>

(3 hours later...)

[07:40]

ahha

[07:41]

i just noticed that if you follow the "neuros firmware" link at the top of the right column, you get a message saying it's not available

[07:41]

i still found a link to the zip file, though

[08:49]

ah... i've just about finished a perl-tk based metadata editor for ogg and mp3. i'm going to bed now, but i'll put together a tarball of it and post it to the neuros forums in the morning. if anyone's interested in looking at it, please do give me a /msg . i'm looking for feedback, on the interface especially.

[08:51]

nollidj: have you seen easytag?

[08:54]

ah... no

[08:54]

maybe i went about doing things the hard way

[08:55]

i hadn't been able to find a tag editor with a GUI that let me define ad hoc tagging schemes for ogg vorbis files

[08:55]

so if i wanted a field named "lollipops", i could have it

[08:57]

ahh

[08:57]

Well, that's more than easytag

[08:57]

easytag looks nice, though

[08:58]

ugh... the emerge failed. i'll just call it a night.

[09:04]

It'll be easier in the morning. :)

[15:10]

<Q-W-Y>

hi all

[16:40]

<Yono>

nollidj

[16:40]

<Yono>

the stuff at open.neurosaudio.com is outdated

[16:40]

good day

[16:40]

ah, good to know

[16:40]

<Yono>

you should get it from an updated CVS

[16:40]

i managed to find things on sourceforge

[16:40]

<Yono>

do you have a checkout app?

[16:40]

yeap

[16:41]

<Yono>

let me find the root...

[16:41]

i was just afraid there was some licensing tiff in the background of all this

[16:41]

<Yono>

The CVSROOT is: :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/neuros-firmware

[16:41]

thanks

[16:42]

<Yono>

np

[19:11]

<Yono>

hey

[19:25]

what is the RF port on the bottom of the Neuros for/

[19:25]

?

[19:26]

<Yono>

adding an antenna to boost Ncast/MyFi

[19:27]

<Yono>

but the FCC wouldn't allow it

[19:28]

but if I didn't have to worry about the FCC I could plug in an antena there

[19:28]

or is it disabled in the firmware?

[19:28]

<Yono>

you have to open the brain out and solder one connection

[19:28]

<Yono>

there's pics and stuff though

ok

thanx

<Yono>

<Yono>

that has the pics xoring

[19:38]

hmm... gotta learn how to solder now

[19:38]

<Yono>

lol, doesn't take much learning

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good soldering takes a lot of practice, though

[19:40]

but the antenna mad isn't too tuff (I've done it)

[19:48]

<Yono>

Starkey, GarBage, anyone: do you have a copy of the MyFi white paper?

[19:48]

<Yono>

I can't download the one at open.neurosaudio.com anymore

[19:57]

<Yono>

nvm, I found a cached copy

[19:58]

<Yono>

eozl, any chance this paper could help?

[20:02]

<Yono>

oo, I don't understand parts of it, that definitely means it could help

[20:11]

<Yono>

Oh yea, I also found this in the patent for the neuros

[20:11]

<Yono>

10. The player of claim 1, wherein said player further includes means for transmitting the digital data over the FM band.

[20:21]

<sara_poo_>

anyone setup anything similar to "podcasting" on their neuros?

[20:21]

<sara_poo_>

i'm running gentoo, positron, etc.

[20:23]

<sara_poo_>

I'm a new customer, and I was also wondering is there anyway to skip around quickly? I seem to be slow at cyclingn through artists....

[20:23]

<sara_poo_>

Thanks in advance

[20:24]

FF and RWD buttons scroll faster (by page or letter)

[20:29]

<Yono>

anyway, for anyone who cares about Ncast: 64.233.167.104

[20:29]

<Yono>

patft.uspto.gov

[22:11]

<sara_poo_>

thanks very much guys

[22:12]

sara_poo_: things working?

[22:12]

<sara_poo_>

I actually just got back, beginning to read the massive articles

[22:12]

<sara_poo_>

lol

[22:12]

<sara_poo_>

but everything else works good

[22:12]

<sara_poo_>

just got my neuros today

[22:12]

<sara_poo_>

registered on windows, installed positron

[22:13]

<sara_poo_>

and i'm happy with it

[22:13]

<sara_poo_>

I'd like to give thie ncas a shot eventually, I was thinking of trying to write a perl script to do it

[22:13]

ncas?

[22:28]

<eozl>

thx for the article Yono, definitely very interesting

[22:36]

<Yono>

np eozl

[22:36]

<Yono>

I found it interesting that 2 years ago they already had plans for a remote conrtol and RDS, but still nothing today

[22:38]

<Yono>

the patent actually had some pretty interesting ideas for RF remote controls

[23:34]

<eozl>

Yono, remote control you say, that'd be cool, control the neuros from abroad?

[23:35]

<eozl>

i always found it unfortunate that so many remote controls for TVs and such use IR and have to be line of sight, with TV being what it is a radio remote control would be nice

[23:48]

hey I got my neuros, but I have files like this: ?e?s?o?1.txt

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should I just delete all of those?

[23:52]

I got a error: 0x4840