Log from #neuros IRC channel

hey

is there any differance between sorune-0.5pre7 and 0.5?

a few bugfixes

it's worth the upgrade

[03:04]

alright

[03:05]

yay

[03:05]

it rocks my simple little world

[03:31]

<Yono>

hey sorune

[03:31]

<Yono>

what's up?

[03:31]

hey yono

[03:32]

not much... 0.5 is out (in case you weren't aware)

[03:32]

<Yono>

yeah, I know

[03:52]

hey darren, thanks for fixing up sorune so nice in 0.5.

[03:52]

auto-transferring of recordings now works good.

[03:53]

great, glad to hear it

[03:54]

i haven't tried your "auto-tagger" function yet, even though i was one of the ones who asked for it.

[03:54]

sorry :(

[03:55]

np, i hope it works :)

[03:55]

i haven't tried it for awhile

[03:56]

i have a tagger script in linux that tags by dir tree automatically (since you started that function)

[03:56]

now, if only the firmware would support your built in use of sub-directories

[03:57]

browsing "genre-->artist-->album-->song" would be very cool.

[03:58]

:)

[03:58]

yeah, the sub-directory support is far from perfect

[04:00]

if chreekat gets gcc port up and running, that's the first thing i'm going to look at

[04:02]

yeah, i imagine a lot of development will begin when that happens

[04:02]

wonder how many linux only people, or those who are just waiting for a compiler there are on this list?

*channel

Hey, I'm linux-onlu

:)

I'd like to work on the firmware and wish I had time to learn GCC to help port it

[04:04]

bet there are a lot more out there like you and me, derobert

I suspect so... a lot of open-source people don't run windows

<noiz>

derobert: so you live in herdon?

yep

or rather a little south of it

[04:06]

<noiz>

cool, im from mclean

[04:06]

neat

[04:08]

I still need to upgrade to sorune 0.5

[04:08]

<noiz>

its very good

[04:08]

"The Artist" support looks nice.

[04:09]

<noiz>

yeah, i like that too

<noiz>

although at first it was kinda annoying since i was used to the other way

derobert: pay no attention to the ascii function (it's not there) :)

sorune: ?

sorune: I haven't seen the source yet.... should I be worried?

well, i had to tweak the unicode stuff

or else it wouldn't work with the latest versions of perl

ah

that's weird, I'm running 5.8.x here

5.8.4...

isn't that the newest?

5.8.6 is the latest

hmmm, what broke?

i think it's more dependent upon the version of Tk though

ah....

I sort of remember you asking about something like that

sorune: i liked the old icons, is there an easy way to get the old icons back?

and I never use the GUI, so I wouldn't notice.

[04:13]

without the little neuros in the background?

[04:13]

yeah, once non-ascii text is added to the file browser, it comes back as unicode

[04:13]

which, as you know, is not a good thing for the extended ascii chars

[04:14]

yeah, due to neuros brokeness at least

[04:14]

mbryner: the folder icons?

sorune: btw, could --add be made to take multiple arguments?

no the top bar

try -a <dir1> -a <dir2>

sorune: can't do that with shell expansion

sorune: or with xargs

???

ah, ok

sorune: --add /var/www/music/*

the shell will turn that into --add /var/www/music/a /var/www/music/b etc

[04:17]

I just really noticed it after wondering why find /var/www/music -iname '*.m3u' -print0 | xargs -0 ./sorune --add wasn't getting my playlists

[04:17]

well, for that, you could use --add /var/www/music

[04:18]

sorune: actual situation is I only want some directories out of there... and can't do that for the find command (except by invoking sorune numerous times, which is slow)

[04:18]

mbryner: you liked the toolbar icons from the early 0.3 days?

[04:18]

<noiz>

sorune: they were a bit clearer

[04:19]

<noiz>

easier to see, from farther away

[04:19]

well, the latest icons are in a separate file

[04:19]

so, it should be easy to make the old ones an option

sorune: like what noiz said

ok, i'll see what i can do

on the new ones, I have to get up close to the monitor, or hover over them to get the bubble help

is back

to see what they do

<noiz>

the new ones look cooler, but for first time users i think it is easier for them to understand the old icons

[04:21]

i'm not a first time user by any means, but i don't sync enough to know them all by memory, that's all i'm saying.

thanks for looking into it though :)

np

hi keith

sorune: just trying the gui, the splash screen pops up across two monitors... :-(

really?

that's bizarre

sorune: yep

sorune: neat splash screen, though

[04:24]

brb

[04:25]

want to hear something weird? after 6 mos of using sorune, i didn't even know it had commandline capability until a few weeks ago!

[04:25]

mbryner: wow

derobert: all the splash screen stuff is in createSplash in guilib.pm

<noiz>

mbryner: have you mainly been using the exe version?

derobert: just in case you want to fix it :)

sorune: I suspect its a tk bug, honestly....

noiz: nope, on Mandrake

sorune: probably doesn't know about xinerama

<noiz>

mbryner: crazy, its been in the readme files

derobert: does the main program also show up on both monitors?

sorune: nope, it only shows on one

just always typed sorune to start it from shell, and it worked fine. no need to read the readme! haha

[04:28]

derobert: i wonder if it's the overrideredirect call that is screwing up???

[04:28]

<noiz>

mbryner: :)

[04:28]

sorune: no idea, I don't know much anything about tk

mbryner: cool, finally somebody who understands sorune w/o a readme :)

i thought i was the only one

<noiz>

i understood it, except for the right click to go back thing...

there's a readme?

[04:30]

lol

[04:30]

<noiz>

:)

[04:30]

:)

[04:31]

sorune: btw, it appears you need to update your TODO list --- various artist support is still on there

[04:32]

<noiz>

i think he wants better support

[04:32]

<noiz>

cuz apparenty NDBM has better support for it

[04:32]

<@Starkey>

Of course it does!

<noiz>

lol

yeah, somebody mentioned that to me

that's just not acceptable :)

lol

[04:47]

sorune: any objections to a patch which makes ./sorune a b c act like ./sorune --add a --add b --add c

[04:48]

derobert: nope

[04:52]

sorune: I think this is going to be a nice small one....

[04:53]

sorune: at line 80 of bin/sorune, add: push @addDirs, @ARGV;

[04:53]

sorune: that's it, AFAICT

[04:54]

sorune: if you want diffu of that, I can email it to the sorune list

[04:55]

yeah, i didn't think it would be too hard for you :)

[04:55]

i can probably manage it

[04:57]

now to update the usage screen

night all

anyone alive?

yes

sorune cant see my neuros in gentoo linux 2004.3 do i need to tell it what mount point my neuros is at and how do i do that?

[06:21]

how do i make sorune see my neuros in linux?

[06:27]

<iswm>

shortcircuit, mount it to /mnt/neuros

i see

is the neuros compatable with udev?

<iswm>

Yeah

what about submount and supermount?

<iswm>

Not sure

[06:29]

cool, thanks

[10:34]

<erwan_taf>

h

[10:34]

<erwan_taf>

hi

[12:25]

Hmmm... how many playlists can the Neuros handle before exploding?

[12:27]

I've got 55 so far.... I guess I'll see :-)

55

lol

I got none

<erwan_taf>

lo AmericanTechpush

[12:37]

No time to make playlists..

[12:37]

Just pick artist and hit play

[12:37]

<erwan_taf>

I play by genre :)

[12:52]

Heh. My playlists are just to work around not having a good way to say 'play symphony 7'

[13:04]

Is there a spanish version of Garbage firmware?

[13:05]

<erwan_taf>

AmericanTechpush: I saw a spanish files in the firmware

somebody asked on the fourms

I was wondering

<erwan_taf>

AmericanTechpush: so it could be built using spanish AFIAR

I let sombody else answer it

[16:10]

<@Starkey>

derobert, I bet the Neuros could handle several hundered to thousands playlist. It's all a matter of diskspace

[16:11]

Starkey: well, that's good....

[16:11]

Except I'm sure the GUI can't... because you couldn't find anything at that point.

[16:11]

<@Starkey>

Yes, that really is the limitation

[16:12]

<@Starkey>

You, not the software. :)

[16:15]

heheh

[16:42]

<noiz>

anyone on?

[16:42]

yeah

[16:42]

<noiz>

brb

[16:58]

<noiz>

anyone still on?

[17:00]

yeah :)

[17:01]

<noiz>

k

[17:01]

<noiz>

trying to get a plugin for xchat to work

[17:01]

<noiz>

so far its not working...

[17:08]

:( bummer

[17:08]

<erwan_taf>

noiz: which plugin ?

[17:09]

<noiz>

systray plugin

[17:09]

<erwan_taf>

this is usefull :)

[17:09]

<erwan_taf>

urpmi xchat-systray-plugin on mandrake :)

[17:10]

<noiz>

i installed it with portage with gentoo, but its not working

[17:10]

<erwan_taf>

arf

[17:22]

<noiz>

do you know where i should set my icon paths for the systray plugin?

[18:51]

<noiz>

hey Joe

[18:51]

howdy.

[18:51]

unfortunately, I have a lunch meeting that I'll have to leave shortly for.

[18:52]

hey Joe - good to "meet" you :)

[18:54]

<erwan_taf>

hi JoeBorn

[18:54]

<erwan_taf>

JoeBorn: i've asked my friend to come

[18:55]

Hi Josh

[18:55]

Hi erwan

[18:57]

<erwan_taf>

hi nerochiaro

[18:57]

good evening

[18:58]

i'll be intermittently away as i cook my dinner, so if i don't answer right away, don't lose your patience :P

[18:58]

<erwan_taf>

:)

[18:59]

I need to leave in a few, but I'll be back in an hour, I appoligize.

[19:01]

see you later Joe

[19:01]

so I understand we're going to talk about the gcc port?

[19:01]

<erwan_taf>

JoeBorn: read my pv :)

<erwan_taf>

JoeBorn: yes, one of my friend is intrested in helping the gcc port

who is he?

<erwan_taf>

nplanel

<erwan_taf>

JoeBorn: I've described him in a private message i've sent to you

[19:03]

<erwan_taf>

he's currently at work and it seems to be difficult to join here

[19:04]

gotcha.

[19:04]

<erwan_taf>

maybe he could later :/

[19:05]

<erwan_taf>

or you may discuss by email

[19:05]

<erwan_taf>

seems to be difficult to join at the same time :b

[19:05]

<erwan_taf>

I have to go

[19:06]

<erwan_taf>

see you folks

[19:06]

<erwan_taf>

back to home

[20:19]

<erwan_ho>

re

[20:20]

erwan, i'm curious about one thing: what the hell does the _taf and _ho that you usually tack at the end of your nick ?

[20:20]

there was supposd to be a "mean" into that sentence, btw ;)

[20:23]

<erwan_ho>

hehe

[20:23]

<erwan_ho>

ho = home

[20:24]

<erwan_ho>

taf means work

[20:25]

how comes "taf" means "work" ? in french ?

[20:25]

isn't that "travail" or something like that ?

[20:26]

<erwan_ho>

travail is the real word, taf is the slang word for travail

[20:27]

cool. i know a little bit more of french now, which is always good ;) thank you

[20:39]

<erwan_ho>

hehe

[21:18]

<DeepB>

hi all

[21:18]

hi

[21:18]

* JoshMalone waves

[21:19]

is it all fine with you ?

[21:20]

<DeepB>

i completely filled the hdd on the neuros, rebuilding now... 60Gb it's gonna take bloody ages

[21:20]

which sync manager?

[21:20]

nah, c'mon, 60gb is almost 15 minutes

[21:21]

<DeepB>

sorune, a 0.5 based tweaked one

[21:21]

Seems (from things I've heard from users) that Sorune takes a LONG time to rebuild compared to NDBM

[21:22]

<DeepB>

it's rebuilding from scratch, since i've reworked all tags

[21:22]

<DeepB>

and yes, it is a lenghty operation

[21:25]

<DeepB>

i think i will regain them all to 95% peak, when finished

[21:25]

<DeepB>

burn hdd, burn

[21:40]

<Yono>

hey

[21:41]

hi

[21:41]

DeepB: you may wanna keep things about 3db below peak - I've found some discouraging things about the DSP and distortion on output :(

[21:41]

<Seed>

hello

i am a bit stressing the HDD of the neuros, and i notices the unit is quite hot. hell, almost barbecue kind of hot. should go fetch some ice from the fridge

before it melts down

<Yono>

I've had that happen before

if the HD is allowed to run a long time, it gets hot - no ventilation on the N :(

happens when I rsync after a long time

[21:50]

yeah, but something that troubles me is the fact that the LCD is quite sensitive to temperature. for example i had my cat sleep over it for a night, and it was all rainbow colored. and these days outside it below zero, and when i go out with it, it gets the rainbow effect again

[21:50]

<DeepB>

back

[21:50]

nerochiaro: me, too - LCD is just like that

<Yono>

yeah, my N2 unit has rainbow LCD

the crystals can freeze :)

<DeepB>

ty, nero, seems that stuff you send me look quite nice

and heat up....

<Yono>

my N1 unit never did that though, and I've had it longer :(