Log from #neuros IRC channel

i tried that

<Yono>

no, get back to where you can connect backpack only and copy files over

it does the same messed up crap as with the brain

okay

<Yono>

tell me when to continue by pinging my screenname

[06:58]

just for the record, if anyone else wants to help while i'm asleep: i got the firmware to the official beta, but it still won't sync without becoming read only

[07:30]

At least your's isn't a brick. :-/

[18:29]

anyone around ?

[18:30]

with a neuros 2 and a minute of time

[18:31]

im free

[18:32]

great. what firmware you have on ?

[18:32]

latest grabage

[18:33]

2.26.1.7

[18:34]

it's ok. the quick test i need you to run is: browse by "songs" (that is, all songs in one single list) then keep pressed the down button, so you scroll down ten pages or so. at that point play the song you have selected. tell me if your display looks ok, or if you get errors or somethings is not right

[18:34]

seems ok

[18:35]

ill try holding it dowm a bit longer

nope seems to be just fien

ok, then it's probably something i have done wrong in rebuilding my db. thank you for the time :)

np

im using positron btw

[18:37]

i'm with sorune, but an experimental one from garbage, so it's probably his fault

thanks again

lol :)

np again

as i suspected, rebuilding with a standard sorune fixed the problem.

[18:42]

well thats good at least

[18:43]

yeah, i feared i had funked something with my experiments, but this time at least i was not the one to blame

[18:47]

lol

[18:47]

experiments just sounds like something fun to do

[18:50]

they are, but it's painful at times when the code you write works fine, but for some reason something completely unrelated starts acting weird

[18:50]

that is what i feared had happened this time, but luckyly it was not so

[18:51]

ahrg im waiting for the stupid gcc port so i can finish the mod plugin i was working on

[18:52]

yeah, i can feel your pain

[18:52]

mod as in "mod audio format" ?

[18:53]

well mod's s3m's xm's

[18:53]

old tracker formats

[20:21]

AAARGH ! I just disconnected the power adapter where the neuros was attached to because it was acutally SMOKING !

[20:22]

somethings inside the thing was burning

[20:22]

that stinks

[20:23]

yeah, literally stinks, there's a smell of burnt plastic in here

[20:23]

let me open the window a bit

[20:23]

what the hell could have happened ?

[20:24]

or you could just get high off the fumes and then you wouldnt have to worry about it for a while ;)

you use a power converter since youre in italy, right?

yes

and i used a cheap one because i'm an idiot

but nevertheless, it should not catch file without a reason

[20:26]

have you left it plugged in for a while, cuz converters do give off a lot of heat when they are left in for a while

[20:27]

yeah, but i used to keep it plugged in the whole night, and it hardly warmed up. the only reason i could think off was the fact i left the power adapter AND the USB cable plugged in togheter for a while. like 30 minutes or an hour.

[20:28]

shit, the fumes are really getting me an headache, but if i keep the window open i'll catch a flu, it's below zero outside

[20:29]

get high, or flu, seems like an easy choice to me :)

[20:30]

indeed. might as well enjoy it for a while, then tomorrow morning when i wake up i'll begin to understand the roots of the right to die movement because of the throbbing pain in my head

[20:34]

thank god i was not out of the house... it would have sucked to come back home and find all my electronics molten togheter in a nice plastic blob on top of a charred desk

[20:36]

but then you could have sold the plastic blob saying it was modern art and gotten more money :)

[20:38]

damn noiz, you're a genius ! now, where did i put the lighter and that can of gasoline ? ;)

[20:39]

<Seed>

nerochiaro: someone will write comics based on your stories soon

[20:39]

and if you have insurance, you could probably get even more money off it

[20:40]

noiz77: i doubt i have it

[20:40]

Seed: hey, that means royalties !

[20:40]

Seed: btw, what other "stories" are you talking about ?

[20:41]

<Seed>

I don't know.. you tell me :)

[20:41]

nerochiaro: you could write a biography about yourself describing how you came up with the brilliant idea

[20:42]

Seed: i don't know either, it was you that used the plural of "story", not me

[20:42]

<Seed>

I hope you voted for the correct codec on the HA poll

[20:43]

<Seed>

WMA needs our support.. we must all vote for it

[20:43]

what poll ?

[20:43]

<Seed>

www.hydrogenaudio.org

[20:44]

I'm assuming you're kidding about voting for wma.

[20:44]

<Seed>

no, I'm deadly serious

[20:44]

<Seed>

as usual

"Which lossy is YOUR daddy?" ... whoa, i see i'm not the only one inhaling strange fumes around here...

<Seed>

definitely not

<Seed>

vote for MP3 and face the wrath of Seed

I like this question, in the thread following the poll: "I would poll on HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU CHANGED CODEC/SETTINGS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS."

[20:47]

<Seed>

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[20:50]

hi chreekat

[20:50]

hey

[20:51]

silly dsl modem just threw a little hissy fit

[20:56]

"hissy fit" ?

[21:04]

chreekay, you still there ? i was reading in the logs your problem with UP+PLAY making the player fail to turn on

[21:13]

oy, back

[21:13]

i just wanted to tell you, that you're not the only one with that problem

[21:14]

it happens to me and garbage too, at least, and appearently there's also a bugzilla item for it.

[21:14]

hm

[21:15]

2 workarounds: 1) detach and reattach brain. 2) unplug and replug the power cable 3 or more times

[21:17]

btw, "hissy fit" = tantrum

Tantrum n.

A fit of bad temper.Also called regionally hissy2, hissy fit.

i see

haha

:) one more idiom in my english arsenal

[21:19]

nice. :)

[21:19]

As I use it, it usually indicates a childish tantrum

[21:19]

<LoRez>

I can't get mine to turn off.

Back on topic, I still can't get my Neuros to turn *on*. :-P

What's scarier is I can't get it to communicate with Linux, with or without the brain

And it also doesn't turn on with the flash backpack

* LoRez attempts to format the NAND

so I'm gonna call tech support

[21:21]

chreekat: yeah, but how did you shut it down last time it still worked ?

[21:21]

<DeepB>

is anyone here into internet radio, and/or low bandwidth broadcast streams?

[21:21]

LoRez: you can't get it to turn OFF ? UP+PLAY doesn't work ?

[21:22]

<LoRez>

nerochiaro: yeah, it works, but it still won't turn off with just PLAY afterwards.

[21:22]

DeepB: not my thing, sorry

[21:22]

LoRez: and apart of up+play, the normal hold play method doesn't work ?

<LoRez>

nerochiaro: says it's shutting down, but sits there fiddling with the disk until the battery dies.

<LoRez>

DeepB: I listen to some occasionally.

DeepB: did you see in the log what happened to my power adapter ? is that possible in your opinion that it was caused by having the power adapter and USB cable plugged in togheter for long ?

<LoRez>

nand reflash apparantly fixed that though.

<DeepB>

LoRez: have you tried any HE AAC enabled one?

<DeepB>

nerochiaro: i highly doubt it

LoRez: nand format is a kind of magic bullet for the neuros...

nerochiaro: I used UP+PLAY, but I've spent 24 hours trying different combinations of unplugging the brain, pressing buttons, ...

<LoRez>

I usually listen to mp3 streams.

<LoRez>

nerochiaro: apparantly. seems scary.

LoRez: quite so, at times

[21:25]

nerochiaro: Also, it wasn't technically on the first time I did it, so UP+PLAY might not have been the root of the problem.

[21:25]

DeepB: do you have any better explanation then ? it still works now, and it doesn't even become warm if i leave usb plugged off

[21:25]

(of course i'm going to change it anyway, but still...)

[21:26]

After charging for a few hours, I had unplugged it. The 'charging' screen didn't go away after ~30s, so I UP+PLAYed at that point

[21:26]

chreekat: mmh, i'd call support too if i were in your shoes

[21:26]

<LoRez>

chreekat: have you 3-fingered it and done the nand format?

LoRez: isn't three finger salute a typical windows thing ? ;)

LoRez: 1+5+PLAY was one of the many things I tried

<LoRez>

nerochiaro: I can't 1,5,play w/o using three fingers, can you?

Doh! Where did the time go? I'm going to be late for class

[21:28]

LoRez: of course no, but it's the first time i hear it called that way ;)

[21:28]

<DeepB>

nerochiaro: i have no explanations, sorry. But i usually leave both plugged on mine, no noticiable heating problems detected so far

[21:28]

DeepB: weird. time to get a serious adapter, then

[21:29]

<DeepB>

you bet, unless you're willing to end with the cold wave on your own

[21:30]

the "cold wave" ?

[21:30]

<DeepB>

yep, polar winds, and that stuff

[21:31]

ah, i see. no, i prefer not. you said good stabilized adapters are expensive. define expensive in terms of euros, just to get an idea

[21:31]

whats the command to find what kernel version you are using?

[21:32]

<DeepB>

noiz77: uname -a ?

[21:33]

DeepB: thanks

[21:33]

<DeepB>

nerochiaro: i can't really say, mine was about 20-30 i guess, i can't remember well

[21:34]

DeepB: i thought worse. thanks

[21:35]

<DeepB>

nerochiaro: remember that thing i told you about social abbilities and RPGs?

barely

<DeepB>

then screw you all, i'm going back to KotOR2 ;)

cool game that one

better than the first one

[21:37]

light or dark side ?

[21:37]

<DeepB>

not really... "Pure pazaak" .. i really hate that guy

[21:37]

<DeepB>

fucking Carth clone

[21:38]

a little less whiner, IMHO. still, the characters are better mostly

[21:39]

atton sucks, i agree

[21:39]

<DeepB>

i'm in Dantooine now, and still no lightsaber, that pisses me off

[21:40]

i did nar shadaa and korriban first, doing onderon now. i had the lightsaber on the second planet i visited

[21:41]

but i am not using it very much, prefer to fry people with force storm and the force kill. much fun. combat is too easy, IMHO

are we talking galaxies here?

<DeepB>

gernika: KoTOR

gernika: no, KOTOR2

ah ok

gernika: MMO games are evil

[21:43]

you're telling me. not only are they evil they are amazingly stupid

[21:43]

gernika: not to mention plagued with the most amazingly brainless kiddies

[21:44]

Of lost good friends to MMORPGs.

[21:44]

/s/I've/Of

<DeepB>

ciao, bbl

DeepB: later

gernika: really ?

nerochiaro: yeah. for months at a time.

[21:46]

nerochiaro: won't pick up the phone. only respond to chat messages once or twice/day with stupid msgs like 'hehe' or 'yeah'

[21:47]

all because of WOW

[21:48]

i assume they lived far from your home, or else you should've gone to their place and wake them up with kicks in the arse

[21:48]

yes, in a different state

[21:49]

then they complain about getting fat

[21:49]

heh, no wonder

[21:51]

oh well, let's go back at playing kotor... er... hacking the firmware ;)

[21:51]

heheheh

[21:52]

er, yeah

[21:52]

mostly I was just pissed off at them for not working on loglibrary.com and playing the stupid game instead

[21:53]

if there's one thing i really loathe is that demented speech that is so common among kiddies in online game chatrooms

[21:53]

u mean like this?

omg u did it ! ur teh most l337 ! lol !!111

;(

i hate it

yeah, low information density

that's the language of the pathologically lazy

[21:55]

perhaps they simply don't know how to type?

[21:56]

well, they do that so much, one figures they should've learned by now

[21:57]

of course growing by learning to type SMS messages before learning to write tends to push one in the direction of that kind of typing pattern

[21:57]

but still...

[21:58]

It would be funny to see what happens when they get a job and write an email to their boss like that

[21:59]

or send in a resume in leetspeak

[21:59]

that would be a good subject for parody

[22:00]

indeed

[22:01]

yeah, leetspeak is never parodied :P

[22:02]

well, I mean like the idea of putting it on a resume

[22:02]

I think that would be pretty funny

[22:02]

:)

[22:15]

tight

[22:15]

yay instantaneous support!

[22:16]

what did they say ? replacement ?

[22:16]

yeah

[22:17]

also, yay for being in the same country as the manufacturer. :)

[22:18]

Apparently there are a couple of quality issues manifesting from the supplier's components.. I managed to hit two of them.

[22:19]

* nerochiaro thanks the powers above and below that his neuros didn't have faulty pieces inside

hi yono

<Yono>

hey nero

<Yono>

did you happen to see my message to you in the logs?

<Yono>

I don't remember what I said, just that I said something

i did, but still i don't think i will "acquire" one of these

<Yono>

oh I remember now

you were talking about the emulator for developing on the recorder

<Yono>

fair enough ;)