[02:49] <gernika> nerochiaro: if you are reading the logs, excelleng work on the latest dialogue.
[02:49] <gernika> shining example
[02:58] <Yono> wow, Last.fm is amazing
[03:02] <chreekat> hm, are there any sorts of costs associate with it?
[03:05] * chreekat  signs up
[03:05] <Yono> its amazing
[03:05] <Yono> by the way, have you seen the log summary from yesterday?
[03:05] <Yono> yonkeltron: Did you go to minion tonight sir?
[03:06] <chreekat> No, I'll look it up
[03:06] <Yono> loglibrary.com
[03:06] <Yono> there will be a more in-depth meeting next sunday if ur avaliable
[03:08] <Yono> Uh-oh: www.mikeslist.com
[03:18] * chreekat  returns from loglibrary.com
[03:18] <gernika> what the hell is going on with my bot?
[03:18] <Yono> all caught up?
[03:18] <Yono> I was gonna ask u the same thing gernika
[03:18] <chreekat> I read the dialogue you mentioned
[03:19] <chreekat> Heh, maybe the bot doesn't like me viewing its site. :)
[03:20] <chreekat> yay last.fm *is* cool
[03:20] <chreekat> I need to figure it out, though
[03:20] <Yono> u need to use audioscrobbler for a little while first
[03:23] <chreekat> Hmmm.. I'll have to get/make a audioscrobbler "shell plugin" first, and use it with my mpg123/ogg123 script. :)
[03:24] <Yono> I'm still trying to think of how it could work with foobar and the neuros...
[03:24] <chreekat> ooh, a perl version..
[03:24] <Yono> !loglibrarybot
[03:25] <gernika> ok loglibrarybot is officially down for repairs.
[03:25] <Yono> bummer
[03:25] <chreekat> doh! it's a perl plugin to some other program
[03:30] <NC-17> anyone know where i can buy a replacement neuros hd bp battery?
[03:31] <chreekat> Hm, I bet I could rip the good parts out and convert it for shell usage
[03:31] <chreekat> Oh, so Sunday.. hmm.. I should be around
[03:32] <chreekat> Any time in particular?
[03:39] <chreekat> Oh, duh, I just realized that adding audioscrobller to my current music-playing system would be childs-play compared with getting last.fm streams to play
[03:40] * chreekat  pokes Yono
[03:51] <chreekat> You here yet, Yono?
[03:51] <Yono> yep
[03:51] <Yono> just got kicked off net for a second there
[03:53] <chreekat> How do you listen to last.fm? Is it only through the web interface?
[03:55] <Yono> www.last.fm
[03:55] <Yono> thats the link to my station
[04:01] <chreekat> Oohhh sweet mpg123 can handle HTTP streams
[04:01] <chreekat> I'm set
[04:01] <Yono> awesome
[04:01] <chreekat> I just have to download the m3u first
[04:01] <Yono> now I just need to make a script to auto-download whatever's playing :)
[04:03] <chreekat> So, after I audioscrobble enough songs, I will have my own 'station' that plays songs I like?
[04:03] <Yono> yep
[04:03] <chreekat> including songs that other people, with similar interests, like as well
[04:03] <Yono> u can listen to other ppl's stations now
[04:04] <Yono> is The Cure - To Be Someone a remake?
[04:04] <Yono> it sounds firmiliar
[04:05] <chreekat> Hmm.. do I have to use the web interface to 'rate' songs?
[04:05] <Yono> afaik, yes :(
[04:05] <chreekat> dunno
[04:07] <chreekat> Eh, I can handle that for now.
[04:08] <Yono> oh well
[04:08] <Yono> I'm going to sleep
[04:08] <Yono> later
[04:08] <chreekat> see ya
[08:19] <jguenther> does anyone know if there is a mirror of the GarBageBranch 2.26.1.7 firmware? sourceforge cvs seems to be down...
[21:13] <noiz> hey Yono
[21:13] <Yono> hey noiz
[21:13] <Yono> thanks for mirroring lupavista
[21:13] <noiz> it was working fine for me though, but i did it just in case
[21:15] <noiz> Yono: were you able to connect to the lupavista site, or did it not work for you?
[21:15] <Yono> its worked before
[21:15] <Yono> not yester
[21:15] <Yono> *day
[21:16] <noiz> weird, it worked for me yesterday, and it works for me today too
[21:17] <Yono> its works now
[21:17] <Yono> I just tried it
[21:18] <noiz> crazy
[21:20] <noiz> what is lupavista anyways, looks kinda like a blog
[21:25] <Yono> dunno
[21:28] <noiz> hope he doesnt get mad, since it does say no copying on the bottom, but i just put something on the mirror to show where the original page is :)
[21:45] <JoshMalone> hey all
[21:46] <noiz> hey
[21:46] <chreekat> Hey
[21:47] * chreekat  notices too much hay; calls in the horses
[21:47] <JoshMalone> lol
[21:49] <Yono> hi chreekat
[21:49] <Yono> gotten any progress on the gcc worth talking about?
[22:14] <DeepB> chreekat: www.audioscrobbler.com
[22:15] <DeepB> feel free to write a Ruby wrap for AS/Last.FM webservices for controlling the streams, it's pretty easy, and fully documented
[22:19] <Yono> DeepB: hey
[22:19] <DeepB> hiya, Yono
[22:19] <Yono> the foobar scrobbler doesn't have a .log right?
[22:19] <Yono> I can't find one at least
[22:20] <DeepB> open the console
[22:20] <Yono> yessir
[22:20] <DeepB> Components->Show console
[22:20] <Yono> ok
[22:20] <Yono> write log?
[22:21] <DeepB> do you see those INFO (foo_audioscrobbler) lines?
[22:21] <Yono> yep
[22:21] <DeepB> that's your log
[22:22] <Yono> ok, so it could work with the neuros then, kind of...
[22:22] <Yono> the new fw I mean
[22:22] <DeepB> ehmm.. what?
[22:22] <DeepB> it does not work that way
[22:23] <Yono> damn
[22:23] <DeepB> don't worry, darren will make sorune AS friendly
[22:24] <DeepB> and the guy who wrote the patch is now a sf.net developer
[22:25] <DeepB> with CVS access and all that glittering stuff
[22:25] <Yono> great
[22:26] <DeepB> that reminds me.. i have the AS code written yet for the sync manager
[22:26] <DeepB> in perl
[22:28] <DeepB> i just need to know where...
[22:31] <Yono> darren already wrote the code
[22:31] <Yono> at least I believe that is what he said
[22:32] <DeepB> oh, found it, turns out it was in python after all
[22:47] <nerochiaro> DeepB: i have not looked into the AS patch, but basically what it does it to write down on text file all the info of the songs played, right ?
[22:54] <DeepB> nerochiaro: yep, somewhat properly formatted
[22:54] <nerochiaro> and then, there's a script that eats that and submit the songs to the AS server ?
[22:54] <DeepB> nothing extremely fancy, but it should work, i haven't tried it though
[22:55] <DeepB> well, the initial patch takes advantage of the XMMS AS plugin
[22:55] <nerochiaro> keep in mind that AS have in place some measures to lock out scripts
[22:56] <nerochiaro> like looking if info submitted doesn't look like a "natural" listning pattern, it will refuse the submission
[22:56] <nerochiaro> e.g. you can't play one song each second
[22:58] <DeepB> i'm fully aware of AS protocol: i.e >30 secs should not be submitted, neither skipped ones, or those listened earlier than the last one sent
[22:58] <nerochiaro> ok, just wanted to make sure
[22:58] <DeepB> or those listened earlier than the date you signed in
[22:59] <DeepB> i had some trouble with that when developing that python script
[22:59] <blizzow> Do the neuros guys hang out on this channel at all?
[23:00] <blizzow> rather, people who work for neuros?
[23:00] <nerochiaro> blizzow: not really, apart from Joe, the CEO
[23:00] <blizzow> how often is he on here?
[23:01] <Yono> weekly, sometimes twice a week
[23:02] <nerochiaro> blizzow: if you want to be sure to catch him, there is an "official" chat scheduled for next sunday (not certain yet. see OdNA)
[23:03] <nerochiaro> DeepB: i'm not yet convinced if i really like audioscrobbler, yet
[23:04] <Yono> wait till u use it with last.fm
[23:04] <nerochiaro> Yono: for some reason last.fm sounds quite shit for me
[23:04] <nerochiaro> Yono: in terms of quality i mean
[23:05] <Yono> why?
[23:05] <DeepB> nerochiaro: what's your desktop media player of choice for audio stuff?
[23:05] <nerochiaro> foobar2000
[23:06] <DeepB> good one, did you installed AAC HE support for it?
[23:06] <nerochiaro> doesn't it come out of the box with the "special" package ?
[23:06] <DeepB> i don't think so
[23:07] <DeepB> try it here:
[23:07] <DeepB> www.tuner2.com
[23:09] <nerochiaro> mmh, i'm not sure it works
[23:09] <nerochiaro> it recognize the stream as AAC
[23:10] <DeepB> AAC or AAC HE?
[23:10] <DeepB> aka AAC+ or aacPlus
[23:10] <nerochiaro> "HE AAC 128kbps 96000Hz 6Channels"
[23:10] <nerochiaro> ah, it started.
[23:11] <DeepB> dude, does your sound card support 96Khz?
[23:11] <nerochiaro> but the sound is stuttering. continuously running out of buffer, it seems
[23:11] <Yono> it works for me
[23:11] <nerochiaro> er, not sure if it does
[23:12] <nerochiaro> i mean, i can hear the sound, but it stops every 5 seconds or so, for one or 2 seconds.
[23:12] <nerochiaro> when it's on, it plays very high quality it seems
[23:12] <DeepB> pick a lower one, that's real top-notch hi-fi
[23:13] <DeepB> either that or drop the mule|whatever
[23:13] <nerochiaro> lower quality works, even with the mule on
[23:14] <nerochiaro> for some reason it's even better than last time i tried it. cool
[23:14] <DeepB> i found those radio stations to sound very crystal clear, even at low bitrates
[23:15] <nerochiaro> yeah, not that it's not stopping suddently, it semes quite good for the bitrate it uses. seems a nice way to sample new stuff, indeed
[23:15] <nerochiaro> er, "yeah, now"
[23:16] <DeepB> last.fm uses 128Kbps MP3
[23:16] <Yono> hey DeepB, do you know why a computer wouldn't recognize a microdrive?
[23:17] <DeepB> the quality is not as good, but it's usually acceptable (if you use the mule) ;)
[23:17] <nerochiaro> DeepB: is there a way to skip to next track without having a browser window open ?
[23:17] <DeepB> Yono: i have no idea
[23:17] <nerochiaro> or even have the artist and track name in the player ?
[23:18] <DeepB> nerochiaro: they avoid that because of StreamRipper
[23:18] <DeepB> this stuff is for WinAMP www.flippet.org
[23:18] <DeepB> it kinda circumvent that
[23:18] <nerochiaro> i don't see the point ? what happens if they put artist and track title ?
[23:19] <DeepB> then you can automatically rip the tracks easier
[23:19] <DeepB> not that i'm defending that, i am pissed off too, but i understand them
[23:20] <Yono> yeah, I've used those kind of programs the streamrip before
[23:20] <nerochiaro> makes sense from their point of view, even thought i can't understand how someone who is sane of mind would even think about ripping a 128Kbps MP3 stream
[23:20] <DeepB> they're very limited in resources, a massive weve of streamripper would render the service unusable
[23:20] <Yono> they aren't very accurate at splitting tracks anyway
[23:22] <DeepB> i have some streamripper sessions
[23:22] <DeepB> some of them last weeks
[23:23] <DeepB> and i've discovered great stuff in there
[23:23] <nerochiaro> would be interesing to streamrip the high quality stuff i was chocking over some minutes ago at tuner2
[23:23] <DeepB> works great when you have a big pipe, nothing to download, and hard disk to waste
[23:24] <DeepB> foobar2k can do it
[23:24] <nerochiaro> i fail to meet the first 2 requirements, and the third too very soon
[23:24] <DeepB> you'll need a modified http_reader plugin
[23:25] <nerochiaro> maybe i'll look into that later on
[23:25] <nerochiaro> for now though, i'll go to bed. tomorrow i start at the new job and i don't want to fall asleep from the first day ;)
[23:26] <DeepB> err.. anyone knows anything about frontpage extensions?
[23:26] <nerochiaro> - g'nite everyone
[23:26] <DeepB> gnite, nero
[23:27] <DeepB> this guy needs frontpage support on the debian webserver i'm building for him
[23:27] <DeepB> gosh.. it hurts just by writing it
[23:33] <noiz> :)
[23:35] <LoRez> DeepB: are there any serial type unused pins on the cpu in the neuros?
[23:36] <DeepB> LoRez: i think there are some of them unwired, check the schematics
[23:37] <LoRez> I wonder how hard it would be to hack something together to hook it up to the antenna jack and tell it what to do that way
[23:38] <Yono> i don't think it would be easy
[23:40] <DeepB> LoRez: like a remote?
[23:40] <LoRez> yeah
[23:43] <DeepB> would be an awesome enhancement