Log from #neuros IRC channel

<noiz>

well, not totally yet, since the newest version of sorune + audioscrobbler support havnt been released yet

<noiz>

the firmware has already been released

<unknown_lamer>

hrm, so the firmware tracks your song data

<noiz>

yeah

<unknown_lamer>

and then sorune pushed them to as?

<noiz>

yeah

<unknown_lamer>

What if you listen to music on your computer first and then submit?

<unknown_lamer>

wouldn't that trigger the spam protection >?

<noiz>

thats a problem that they are trying to get fixed with as

<unknown_lamer>

(error: your client submitted data timestamped earlier than blah)

[02:57]

<Yono>

actually noiz

[02:57]

<noiz>

they are trying to have an exception for their plugin

[02:57]

<Yono>

I think there is something with iPod and iScrobbler

[02:58]

<Yono>

www.audioscrobbler.com

[02:58]

the iPod works with iScrobbler, but it's limited to a single playlist in iTunes

[02:58]

<Yono>

ah, I see

[06:42]

* chreekat waves

[06:46]

I just got done with school. DeepB, thanks for the link. Still reading the log....

[06:54]

As for the port, I made a comment a few days ago about the status. Also, I have to write a report for the project; I'll let you read it when it's done.

[06:54]

Hmm, I should make a 'dialogue' in loglibrary of what I said.. brb

[07:06]

Hm, what's the correct way to use the tags? *scrounges up docs*

[07:08]

Eh, screw the tags

[09:25]

* badalex is away: see u

[09:26]

* badalex is away: that was lame how about sleep

[15:21]

<marek>

hi all

[17:07]

If I use Sorune, should I mount the neuros first or just put /dev/sg0 in the .sorunerc file?

[17:11]

<LoRez>

blizzow: mount it, sorune finds it by looking at what's mounted.

[17:19]

any idea why my neuros wouldn't be seen by sorune? I mounted it on /mnt/neuros and edited .sorunerc to show the last known mount point as /mnt/neuros I even chmod +777 /mnt/neuros and sorune still won't see the device.

[17:23]

anyone know who setup the loglibrary page? the logbot hasn't been in this channel since the problems yesterday.

[17:54]

* badalex is back (gone 08:28:21)

[18:40]

I'm looking through the CVS and I don't know which version to download. Should I get revision 1.3 of the firmware, or 1.4, or the linked garbage branch? The 1.3 says something about removed files, which one do I need?

[19:02]

blizzow: Using chmod on a mount point is usually futile; fat32 doesn't understand nor care. What does sorune say, exactly?

[19:05]

jguenther: what do you want to do with the firmware?

[19:06]

chreekat: should I mount the neuros as type msdos?

[19:07]

chreekat: sorune says "Error: Neuros not found. Please connect and rescan or check permissions

[19:08]

It works fine for me in windoze but at USB 1.1 speeds.

[19:08]

yuck.

[19:14]

(testing irssi's exec funcition.. beware.. :)

[19:14]

you all didn't see that, did you. Here, let me just copy/paste..

[19:14]

/dev/uba1 /mnt/neuros vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0

[19:15]

That's my line in /etc/fstab

[19:17]

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 Jan 3 19:32 /mnt/neuros

I forgot that I had that line in my fstab, thanks for reminding me chreekat.

do you issue the mount command as a normal user?

when you mount a filesystem, the permissions get changed to those of the FS you are mounting

If you use a real or secure distro, you can't mount filesystems as a normal user.

[19:20]

blizzow: ...but with the user option in fstab, you can allow user's personal disks to be mounted by them. :)

[19:21]

yes, but fstab a normal user shouldn't be able to edit fstab.

[19:21]

sorry, please remove the first fstab from that sentence.

[19:23]

agreed

[19:23]

I think JoshMalone was asking if you 1)have the user option listed 2)run 'mount /mnt/neuros' as non-root

[19:51]

dangit - google & gmail seem to be not working :(

doh

??

er.. responding to you

half an hour later. :)

[20:32]

ah

[20:33]

it's irritating trying to use the internet w/o google :)

[20:33]

I've become so dependant

[20:43]

that's what they want. Soon world domination will be theirs. Apple will be their partner.

[20:45]

they're going to go on TV and say they can't come back up unless we give them emergency military powers

[20:45]

JoshMalone: google still not working for you?

[20:47]

nope :(

[20:48]

huh, it's working for me. Where are you at?

[20:48]

US - virginia, sprint

US - Colorado, quest

s/quest/qwest/

hmmm....

dunno...just weird

is it DNS resolution that's failing? if so, try 216.239.37.99

[20:50]

I can use a9.com and get around it, but that still doesn't get me my gmail :(

[20:50]

no - DNS is resolving, just the server doesn't answer

[20:50]

likely an akamai thing :(

[20:51]

crummy. I remember the UserFriendly strip about google being down, that was funny (but so true).

[20:51]

<DeepB>

is gmail still driven by heavy javascript stuff?

[20:51]

LOL - me, too

[20:52]

DeepB: yep

[20:52]

XMLHttpRequest stuff via javascript

[20:54]

<DeepB>

and still no IMAP4 interface, huh?

[20:54]

pop3

[20:54]

nope, pop3

anybody know the pop3 address?

I could try that

<noiz>

pop.gmail.com

<DeepB>

still useless to me then

<noiz>

DeepB: i think it has an html only version of gmail now

<noiz>

i tried it with lynx once and it worked fine

noiz: you'

yeah - I can use it with older crap browsers :)

re right, I just tried it.

[20:57]

(damn pinky slip)

[20:57]

<noiz>

bbl

[21:16]

hey Yono

<Yono>

hey kronin

do you know who's doing the loglibrary site?

<Yono>

gernika

the loglibrary bot hasn't been on since the problems freenode had yesterday

thought the logs looked empty :(

Yeah

I'm totally revamping loglibrarybot.

cool

heheh

It was pissing me off leaving and joining so often

it get bored - has to have some fun :)

[21:19]

hahah. well now it has paid the price for it's fun :)

[21:20]

sweet, I have a Neuros again!

[21:21]

<DeepB>

chreekat: congrats

[21:21]

Haha, they used the exact same packaging, down to the black styrofoam.

hmm

hopefully it's a different unit...

<DeepB>

sweet, i have a clean Debian webserver again!

<DeepB>

this guy decided to stop using Frontpage shit ;)

[21:23]

DeepB: woohoo

[21:23]

DeepB: I was wondering how long it'd take you to talk him out of it

[21:24]

<DeepB>

i was really holding myself not to pushing him much hard

[21:24]

<DeepB>

in order to A: make a nice invoice for the FP installation

[21:25]

LOL

[21:25]

<DeepB>

B: wait a couple of weeks, and then mock about him for being such a wimp

[21:25]

<DeepB>

and C: make a nice invoice for the FP uninstallation

[21:26]

<DeepB>

but i couldn't resist myself

[21:26]

Ok.. I think they sent me back the same unit

[21:28]

The unit works, at least.

[21:29]

But for how long, I wonder? If it's the same one, it might randomly stop working again (just like it might be randomly *working* right now)

[21:29]

I guess I'll have to see

I'm 99% positive this is the exact same package I sent to them. Unopened, even. All my songs are on the HD, it was packaged how *I* packaged it, there wasn't any extra tape noticible, ...

The only difference is that it's actually playing

maybe your neuros just wanted to go on a trip.

Yeah, seems plausible

[21:35]

Oh well, I have a final exam in 3 hours.. I'm just gonna cross my fingers and whisper sweet nothings to my N to keep it happy

[21:35]

and go study

[21:36]

This wouldn't be half as funny if it didn't actually WORK. hahaha

[21:39]

<DeepB>

anyone here ever used QEMU?

[21:39]

nope

[21:39]

<DeepB>

how do i send a CTRL-ALT-DEL sequence?

[21:43]

DeepB: in their FAQ, they have a "sendkey ctrl-alt-f2"

[21:43]

so maybe you could do a "sendkey ctrl-alt-del" in the monitor

[21:44]

<DeepB>

no monitor so far

[21:47]

no QEMU monitor? fabrice.bellard.free.fr

[21:48]

<DeepB>

nope, no monitor

[22:30]

<noiz>

DeepB: i think i remember you saying that you used ubuntu on a laptop, is that right? cuz im trying to find out some answers about linux and laptops

[22:30]

<DeepB>

that is correct

[22:32]

<noiz>

the main thing for me is that my laptop uses acpi bios, but i only have apm bios installed, so i need to recompile the kernel to get acpi support, right?

[22:34]

<DeepB>

yep, but beware of ACPI, it is somewhat broken on most laptops, always keep a previous working kernel copy on your boot menu just in case

[22:34]

<DeepB>

besides, linux does not fully support the ACPI specifications yet

[22:35]

<noiz>

would i need to use a 2.6.x kernel, or is it supported in 2.4.x too?

[22:37]

<DeepB>

both 2.4 and 2.6 can handle ACPI atm

[22:37]

<DeepB>

but 2.6 has much cleaner drivers when it comes to ACPI suspend states et all

[22:39]

<noiz>

k

[22:41]

<DeepB>

if you're lucky maybe you could find some kind of guiding for your laptop model here

[22:41]

<DeepB>

tuxmobil.org

[22:41]

<DeepB>

or here: www.linux-on-laptops.com

[22:42]

<noiz>

this is my model through toshibas linux support page (which looks pretty crappy) - linux.toshiba-dme.co.jp

[22:43]

<DeepB>

my former laptop was a Satellite 2410-303

[22:44]

<DeepB>

everything worked out of the box (alway with a custom kernel), except the SD reader and the winmodem

[22:45]

<DeepB>

and i had some problems with the keyboard controller and repeating keys under X

[22:46]

<noiz>

yeah, the sd reader doesnt work for me, havnt tried the modem, and sometimes keys do repeat which is kinda annoying

[22:47]

<DeepB>

i solved it with some xkbset commands

<DeepB>

xkbset m

<DeepB>

xkbset exp =m

<DeepB>

xkbset sl 5

<DeepB>

xkbset exp =sl

<DeepB>

xkbset -f slowaccept

<DeepB>

xkbset exp =f =slowaccept