[00:44] <NhJm`> nick NhJm
[00:44] <NhJm> lol
[00:45] <NhJm> afternoon, all
[00:50] <DeepB> worst weather anchor
[00:50] <DeepB> ever
[00:50] <DeepB> oak.cats.ohiou.edu
[01:02] <noiz> just in case anyone interested, i just updated the main page of sorune.com and now it is a blog (kinda like OdNA) and has a news feed too :-)
[01:13] <SmrtJustin> cool noiz
[01:13] <noiz> just put my firefox button on there, i had forgotten to do that :)
[01:13] <SmrtJustin> lol
[01:15] <SmrtJustin> man I wish Dreamweaver MX 2004 ran in CrossOver Office.
[01:16] <noiz> i wish photoshop cs ran in cxoffice
[01:16] <SmrtJustin> ahh I'm not pro enough for that, I just use the gimp
[01:17] <noiz> im too lazy to learn the gimp interface, im too used to photoshop
[01:17] <SmrtJustin> noiz: I noticed you use CoffeeCup HTML editor, how do you like that?
[01:17] <SmrtJustin> the gimp's isn't very much different from photoshop
[01:17] <noiz> i dunno, it was the first free program i found
[01:17] <noiz> it was okay
[01:17] <noiz> some things were annoying though
[01:17] <noiz> now i just use gedit :)
[01:17] <SmrtJustin> yeah
[01:18] <SmrtJustin> I'm installing Mozilla NVU now
[01:19] <noiz> cool
[01:21] <noiz> hey JoshMalone
[01:24] <SmrtJustin> I wish I could find a DreamWeaver MX or 4 installer
[01:24] <SmrtJustin> those two run under crossover, but I cant find an installer anywhere.
[01:28] <JoshMalone> hey all
[01:34] <JoshMalone> argh
[01:34] <JoshMalone> stupod controlling terminal
[01:39] <DeepB> JoshMalone: do you happen to be familiar with 'screen'?
[01:39] <JoshMalone> yeah - actually
[01:39] <JoshMalone> use it all the time
[01:39] <DeepB> do you know how to recover a screen session after accidentally pressing C-a S?
[01:40] <DeepB> C-a s , actually
[01:40] <JoshMalone> does 'screen -ls' show anything?
[01:41] <DeepB> yep
[01:41] <JoshMalone> so - what do you get when you 'screen -r' ?
[01:41] <DeepB> and i can -x or -r it
[01:42] <DeepB> but from a different terminal, not from the same one
[01:42] <JoshMalone> okay - then you may have to 'screen -d <session number>' to detach it from the first terminal
[01:42] <JoshMalone> or maybe it's screen -d <pid>
[01:43] <DeepB> wait.. i can recover the screen session from another terminal, but the selected one at the moment i pressed C-a s is still frozen
[01:44] <JoshMalone> hmmm...maybe C-a q for xon?
[01:45] <JoshMalone> sorry - I mis-understood at first
[01:45] <DeepB> great! it worked
[01:45] <DeepB> thank you man
[01:45] <JoshMalone> np
[01:45] <DeepB> 's' is soo close to 'a' sometimes
[01:46] <JoshMalone> heheh - too close, sometimes
[01:46] <JoshMalone> now - back to re-soldering my speaker connector :)
[01:47] <JoshMalone> I've gotten used to C-\ for escape char
[01:47] <JoshMalone> (from kermit)
[01:48] <DeepB> the \ in spanish keyboards is not a easily accesible as in the US ones
[01:48] <DeepB> you gotta press AltGR and the key on top of TAB for \ here
[01:48] <JoshMalone> oh
[01:49] <JoshMalone> weird
[01:49] <JoshMalone> BTW - that pic of the upside-down N...
[01:49] <JoshMalone> did you get the buttons switched, too?
[01:49] <DeepB> yep
[01:49] <DeepB> i actually have my N reversed rite now
[01:49] <JoshMalone> killer
[01:50] <JoshMalone> is there gonna be a build with that in it?
[01:50] <JoshMalone> (I can't build the FW from source :( )
[01:50] <DeepB> do you want me to build an english one for ya?
[01:50] <DeepB> bad news is that it's not optional yet
[01:50] <JoshMalone> that's okay :)
[01:51] <JoshMalone> I'd never turn it off :)
[01:51] <DeepB> i'm trying to move all the configuration options to a file, as the first NAND sector is becoming roomless
[01:52] <JoshMalone> Ah
[01:53] <JoshMalone> Argh - all my drill bits are in another tool box
[01:54] <DeepB> 7zip is ok?
[01:56] <JoshMalone> sure - I can unzip it at work
[01:57] <DeepB> i can make a bz2 if you wanna test it now
[01:57] <JoshMalone> oh - that'd be awesome
[01:57] <JoshMalone> (home freebsd box right now)
[01:58] <DeepB> anyway, there are *nix ports of 7zip|LZMA around
[01:58] <JoshMalone> but I really wish someone could DCC me a 3/8" drill bit
[01:58] <DeepB> msg me ur mail, plz
[01:58] <JoshMalone> yeah - I just don't have 7z installed on this box
[01:59] <JoshMalone> thanks a million
[02:00] <DeepB> np, sending
[02:01] <DeepB> let me know if it's OK, i haven't built an english one since quite a lot
[02:07] <JoshMalone> got it; now to find the USB cable :)
[02:12] <JoshMalone> hmmm...freebsd not liking my Neuros
[02:12] <JoshMalone> :(
[02:14] <DeepB> can't help you there, sorry. I'm a Torvalds guy
[02:14] <JoshMalone> heheh
[02:14] <SmrtJustin> wtf, nvu makes noiz's code look awful.
[02:16] <noiz> :)
[02:17] <noiz> and it doesnt already look awful?
[02:17] <SmrtJustin> its like putting a: <a
[02:17] <SmrtJustin> on one line
[02:17] <SmrtJustin> then on the next: href="blah"
[02:17] <SmrtJustin> ver M
[02:17] <SmrtJustin> oops
[02:20] <noiz> crazy, my code must be pretty screwy
[02:23] <DeepB> noiz: do you use firefox?
[02:23] <noiz> yeah
[02:23] <DeepB> then i'd recommend you make good use of this:
[02:23] <DeepB> www.extensionsmirror.nl
[02:26] <noiz> looks pretty cool, except its weird since i tried it on google's main page and got a lot of errors...
[02:26] <solomonn> linux sure didn't handle my neuros well
[02:26] <solomonn> haven't tried with a dbm yet
[02:27] <solomonn> right now i'm just trying to make a local mirror of my neuros so that i can replace most of it with my new q6 oggs without deleting anything i can't replace
[02:28] <solomonn> i'll probably have to go do it in windows though and xfer to linux because i can't really even browse the filesystem from linux, it's inordinately slow
[02:28] <solomonn> now i've had the volume unmounted for 3 minutes and the unit is still working on letting me unplug it
[02:40] <JoshMalone> heheh - linux buffers a lot, doesn't it :)
[02:41] <noiz> hey Yono
[02:41] <Yono> hey noiz
[02:41] <Yono> could u do me a favor?
[02:42] <noiz> what kind of favor, im not going to kill anyone or something like that...
[02:42] <Yono> my computer has been running laggy today, so I'm running all kinds of diagnostics on it
[02:42] <Yono> would you mind doing a google search on color oled for me?
[02:43] <Yono> I want to know if such a thing exists
[02:43] <DeepB> yes, it exists
[02:45] <DeepB> i.e, the new Sony Clič has those
[02:45] <Yono> clie?
[02:46] <Yono> those are being cut from production soon
[02:46] <Yono> stupid sony
[02:46] <noiz> Yono: maybe you should try a "linux" diagnostic on your computer ;)
[02:47] <Yono> hmm, is there anything like that from commandline?
[02:47] <Yono> I like cygwin :)
[02:47] <ivel> format C: /f
[02:47] <Yono> touching the gold without a commitment
[02:47] <Yono> hi ivel
[02:47] <Yono> I got konqueror running!
[02:48] <ivel> yo....off to bed....not feeling well
[02:48] <ivel> laters all
[02:48] <ivel> i'm sick...and the g/f is sick too! :(
[02:48] <ivel> night all
[02:48] <Yono> later
[02:49] <noiz> later
[03:01] <JoshMalone> argh - this isn't going to work (my speakers, I mean)
[03:19] <SmrtJustin> man it seems like my neuros slaughters its battery.
[03:29] <JoshMalone> mine, too :(
[03:30] <JoshMalone> woohoo - fixed my speakers
[03:32] <SmrtJustin> seems like I have to recharge it all the time
[03:32] <JoshMalone> I get about a day or 2 out of my batt
[03:33] <JoshMalone> but I only use it <2 hrs a day
[03:33] <JoshMalone> N1, also
[03:34] <JoshMalone> I think there's room enuf in the HD backpack to fit a _slightly_ larger, higher capacity battery
[03:34] <JoshMalone> I think I heard someone say they put a higher maH batt in their N
[03:35] <SmrtJustin> that would be cool
[03:36] <SmrtJustin> it probably doesn't help that my mp3s are a high bitrate and I have customized eq.
[03:37] <JoshMalone> high bitrate does hurt, I think, yeah
[03:37] <SmrtJustin> yeah I use the --standard option w/ lame
[03:37] <SmrtJustin> that puts out like 192-256kbps VBR
[03:38] <JoshMalone> mine avg about 160 - 170 vbr
[03:39] <SmrtJustin> if I dont stop dropping my neuros I'm gonna be in real trouble
[03:41] <JoshMalone> heheh
[03:46] <SmrtJustin> I wish I could find a neuros backup w/ a bad HDD and put one of those fancy CF card readers in it
[03:46] <SmrtJustin> backup == backpack
[03:54] <chreekat> I find it simple to recharge the thing every night
[03:54] <chreekat> I never see less than 2 bars (in the standard batt display)
[03:55] <SmrtJustin> yeah, thats what I should do
[03:55] <SmrtJustin> anyone know how many charge cycles the batt. can go through?
[03:58] <chreekat> nope. $5 for a batt replacement is cheap enough for me to not worry about it.
[03:58] <chreekat> or $15, or whatever it was
[04:00] <SmrtJustin> its that cheap?
[04:05] <chreekat> You can look for it on the neurosaudio website
[04:06] <SmrtJustin> they sell it?
[04:06] <SmrtJustin> or in the forums?
[04:08] <JoshMalone> about 1000 cycles for li-Ion bat
[04:08] <JoshMalone> but some can be as low as 500. :(
[04:08] <JoshMalone> li-ion has lowest charge/discharge cycles of any bat type
[04:09] <SmrtJustin> hmm
[04:10] <chreekat> So, 1.5-3 years
[04:10] <JoshMalone> prolly
[04:14] <SmrtJustin> I wish the neuros had a docking station like you can buy for the ipod
[04:14] <SmrtJustin> that would be so nice
[04:16] <chreekat> Somebody in here made a N-holder for their car.. ask them to build you a dock. :)
[04:16] <SmrtJustin> lol
[05:51] <pwarren> Starkey: Any news on FLAC? (Noticed "Complete FLAC support going in to NDBM CVS)
[08:10] <pwarren> blah
[08:11] <pwarren> Xchat-Aqua opens 2 connections, wierd.
[08:12] <[Chameleon]> calling home?
[08:12] <pwarren> erm, no. I'm at home.
[08:13] <[Chameleon]> I mean, the Aqua is probably calling home.
[08:13] <pwarren> hmm. perhaps.
[08:13] <pwarren> might be something to do with the autoconnect.
[08:15] * pwarren  getting broadband soon!!!!!
[08:15] <[Chameleon]> kewl
[08:15] * [Chameleon]  is almost maxxing out his connection downloading FC4 Live CD
[08:16] <[Chameleon]> holy crap
[08:16] <[Chameleon]> 395.1 KB/s
[08:16] <[Chameleon]> that's 3160.8 Mb/s
[08:16] <pwarren> far kanal.
[08:16] <[Chameleon]> my connection is supposedly 3.0 Mb/s
[08:16] <[Chameleon]> guess so
[08:17] <pwarren> I'm getting 1.5Mbit/s
[08:17] <[Chameleon]> not bad
[08:17] <pwarren> yeah, best deal in Aus.
[08:17] <[Chameleon]> kewl
[08:18] <pwarren> AU$50/Month. 20Gb shaped to 64kbit/s after.
[08:18] <[Chameleon]> one of my coworkers apparently ordered 8 Mbit DSL
[08:18] <[Chameleon]> I need to find out from him how it is.
[08:18] <pwarren> I don't know if you can _get_ 8Mbit DSL in australia.
[08:20] <[Chameleon]> yeah, I've seen it
[08:20] <[Chameleon]> on that ISP that starts with ii
[08:20] <[Chameleon]> iinet.com.au
[08:21] <pwarren> right, I was on dialup with those guys, sucked major.
[08:21] <[Chameleon]> how long ago?
[08:21] <pwarren> random dropouts of DNS or Authentication.
[08:21] <[Chameleon]> dial-up is teh suck
[08:21] <pwarren> 2 years.
[08:22] <[Chameleon]> that's a long time
[08:22] <[Chameleon]> 2 years ago Comcast was shit. today they are pretty decent.
[08:22] <pwarren> yeah, they may have changed, and whirlpool seems to indicate they have a bit.
[08:23] <[Chameleon]> somebody in #linuxtalk was saying they were going to get that 8Mbit connection.
[08:23] <[Chameleon]> maybe risc
[08:24] <pwarren> [Chameleon] Aussie?
[08:24] <pwarren> oh, risc is.
[08:33] <[Chameleon]> nah, I'm near Seattle, WA, USA
[08:33] <[Chameleon]> but I've known risc for a few years
[08:33] <[Chameleon]> he's quite aussie
[08:34] <pwarren> Seattle eh, My supervisor was there a few weeks ago.
[08:35] * pwarren  watching Rumble In the Bronx. Its bloody Hilarious.
[08:35] <[Chameleon]> kewl
[08:35] <[Chameleon]> ah yeah, love that Jackie Chan
[08:35] <[Chameleon]> the end credits show is wild
[08:36] <[Chameleon]> amazing how much Jackie gets hurt
[08:36] <pwarren> for sure, and the Lamborghini, which gets stripped. lolol
[08:36] <[Chameleon]> heh
[08:36] <[Chameleon]> somebody who works in the same building as I do recently purchased a Lotus Esprit
[08:36] <[Chameleon]> pretty damn cool looking
[08:37] <pwarren> meh, If I'm going to get a (sports) car it'll be a Jaguar XK8.
[08:37] <[Chameleon]> kewl indeed
[08:37] <pwarren> thats 10 years away tho ;o)
[08:39] <[Chameleon]> my current car is plenty fast enough
[08:40] <DeepB> qq, what's the meaning of "Far out"?
[08:40] <DeepB> i'm getting a "the young ones" dvd, they say it all the time
[08:40] <[Chameleon]> I ordered pizza on my way home from work and drove 110 MPH on a stretch of hiway and arrived at the pizza place just as the gal took it out of the oven.
[08:41] <pwarren> Nuts.
[08:41] <[Chameleon]> DeepB: amazing, unbelievable, "WOW"
[08:41] <DeepB> k, makes sense
[08:41] <DeepB> thank you
[08:41] <pwarren> Young ones is cool.
[08:41] <[Chameleon]> pwarren: the electronic speed governor on my car kicks in at 122 MPH.
[08:41] <pwarren> I've got both series. makes me laugh.
[08:42] <[Chameleon]> pwarren: it's rather unpleasant.
[08:42] <[Chameleon]> pwarren: but better than a blown motor.
[08:42] <DeepB> yeah: yeah, i remember it being aired here when i was young
[08:42] <pwarren> that's nuts. nuts nuts nuts.
[08:42] <DeepB> it quite stroke me then
[08:42] <pwarren> My current car probably can't to 100Mph!
[08:43] <[Chameleon]> pwarren: one of my coworkers, a contractor, has a V-12 Mercedes coupe that he says he's done over 180 MPH in.
[08:43] <pwarren> DeepB: It's certainly very British.
[08:44] <pwarren> Fast cars are kind of cool, but I don't get a huge kick out of them.
[08:45] <DeepB> here is was broascasted by a regional network, dubbed in Galician, it was quite mad, and totally hillarious
[08:45] <[Chameleon]> pwarren: one of the fastest street legal cars is the Bugati Veyron.
[08:45] <pwarren> DeepB, sounds like fun!
[08:46] <pwarren> not the Jaguar XJ220-C anymore?
[08:46] <[Chameleon]> pwarren: it's got a W-16 cylinder engine and goes over 250 MPH.
[08:46] <[Chameleon]> auto.howstuffworks.com
[08:47] <pwarren> just saw some crazy footage of Nigeria, whole parliment in a chair throwing brawl!
[08:48] <pwarren> s/of/from/
[08:59] <[Chameleon]> By 1992, Jaguar had entered the game and a 542 hp V6 turbo powered its XJ220 to an official 212 mph, becoming well-known as the fastest street-legal production car at the time. Then, only a year later, McLaren burst onto the scene and took the title without much effort, jetting away to speeds in excess of 220 mph.
[09:17] <pwarren> I'm out folks, got to do some drinking, it's Friday night!
[09:22] <[Chameleon]> LOL, Friday morning here.
[09:35] <chreekat> it's only been friday for 30 minutes. :)
[10:36] <[Chameleon]> yeah
[10:36] <[Chameleon]> chreekat: you near UC Davis/
[10:36] <[Chameleon]> ?
[12:21] <[Chameleon]> bazaar-ng.org <-- up-and-coming source control candidate to watch.
[15:29] <JoshMalone> thanks for the build, DeepB - works great!
[15:35] <DeepB> you're welcome, actually i was wondering if it worked for ya, since it was untested
[15:36] <JoshMalone> everything's working so far
[15:36] <DeepB> good to hear
[15:37] <JoshMalone> really ejoying my soruen :)
[15:37] <DeepB> hehe
[15:38] <JoshMalone> hopefully I"ll have a real PC soon and I can run the TI compiler
[15:38] <DeepB> did it slightly change your icons/fonts?
[15:38] <JoshMalone> yeah - slightly; nothing I can't live with, though :)
[15:39] <JoshMalone> is that just a change or something you had to do to flip the screen?
[15:39] <DeepB> flipping the screen was actually easier than i thought
[15:39] <JoshMalone> awesome
[15:40] <DeepB> it was a one liner
[15:40] <JoshMalone> change mapping origin?
[15:40] <DeepB> kinda
[15:40] <JoshMalone> I just finished up my xfree86 accel driver for one of our boards and was surprised how easy it was to work with the chip
[15:41] <DeepB> congrats, man
[15:41] <JoshMalone> thanks
[15:41] <JoshMalone> makes a huge difference on this board
[17:14] <JoshMalone> heheh - byebye, bot :(
[17:39] <chreekat> Ooh I'll have to get that fw
[17:40] <JoshMalone> I can forward you the build DeepB did for me
[17:40] <JoshMalone> English lang....seems to work file
[17:43] <chreekat> I gotta go take a final, back later ;)
[18:23] <JoshMalone> sent :)
[23:38] <yonkeltron> GOOD SHABBOS!
[23:53] <noiz> hola