Log from #neuros IRC channel

<Yono>

yeah, did you buy it after the free upgrades or something?

<carbon_unit>

Yeah, that looks good. Does it matter that I am not the original purchaser?

<Yono>

I don't think so as long as:

<Yono>

A. you don't tell them

<Yono>

B. they don't know

<Yono>

:)

[04:56]

<carbon_unit>

sounds devious.

[04:56]

<noiz>

C. the unit is in decent shape

[04:56]

DI is pretty cool - I doubt they'd care

<Yono>

yeah, I got a broken 30gb from woot so they upgraded it to USB 2.0 for free :)

wow- cool

<carbon_unit>

The unit appears to be almost new in the box with all accessories.

wonder what a N2 costs these days

<carbon_unit>

still has the plastic on the display.

[04:58]

$250

[04:58]

...

[04:58]

<Yono>

JoshMalone: I don't know, I got the N2 128 when I still could

[05:00]

LOL - I can buy a USB2 backpack from cool4u2view and trade in my brain for a N2 and save $10 :)

[05:00]

or - buy a whole new N2 and have my N1 as a backup.... hmm

[05:00]

Yono: btw - that demo was for Amiga!!!

<Yono>

really?

<Yono>

thats awesome

<carbon_unit>

Ok guys, one last question. How do I use GarBages F/W?

yeah - 40MHz 68060 CPU

<Yono>

haha

or maybe 50MHz

<Yono>

bootloader

<Yono>

while off w/ no charger

carbon_unit: you no how to load firmware?

<Yono>

hold down and play

<carbon_unit>

is that all?

<Yono>

its much easier on the 1.1 backpacks

<Yono>

nah, then follow the instuctions

<carbon_unit>

OK, no sweat.

www.neurosaudio.com

<Yono>

they're at the bottom

<Yono>

have you downloaded the fw already?

firmware install instructions at that link

<carbon_unit>

yes. I have it.

follow the USB 1.1 instructions

[05:04]

<carbon_unit>

Thanks, and I appreciate you both taking the time to help without telling me to RTFM.

[05:05]

<carbon_unit>

I like friendly people. You are all right!

[05:05]

<carbon_unit>

Thanks!

<carbon_unit>

Thanks Yono and JoshMalone.

<Yono>

no problem

<Yono>

come back anytime

<carbon_unit>

I'll be back with more q's later.

I'm off to bed, too

night all

<Yono>

later

Oh - Yono, what do you think of the demo?

(or have U watched it)

<Yono>

I that it was pretty cool

<Yono>

you know those arcade games where you shoots the carnival clowns gone evil?

no - but go on :)

<Yono>

it reminded me of that

I don't play enough games

<Yono>

I forget what it was called, Evil Carneival or something

it just blows me away that people are still making crazy shit for Amiga

<Yono>

haha, ppl are still making crazy shit for the newton too

<Yono>

its a weird world out there ;)

<Yono>

night

wow - another paltform that refuses to die

night all

[21:54]

<DeepB>

LoRez: does this stuff mean something to you?

[21:54]

<DeepB>

LoRez: L9G90WDS0ZY2JMMPU1C7EP0XJ205A5CTI1TLJ6S8R77EL20DAKQPSEE728WV2ZD44AY3GC4JL0W69AYY

[21:55]

<DeepB>

LoRez: is that a proxy checker run by freenode, or something?

[22:06]

<Rez>

could be.

[22:07]

wow - there's nothing more irritating than fighting w/ your N for an hour, formatting NAND 3 times, rm -r ing woid_db, rebuilding twice

[22:07]

only to discover you've got NDBM pointed at a fake copy of your Neuros instead of the real thing

[22:07]

and THAT's why the track you added didn't show up

[22:08]

<DeepB>

hehe

[22:13]

okay all better now :)

[22:16]

<NC-17>

im still waiting for my new neuros, darn backorder

[22:16]

lol

[22:17]

<Miker__>

hi all, I have a question for the linux NII owners: do you also have to unseat the brain before you can mount the backpack ? If not, could this be a firmware issue?

[22:17]

<pjz>

so should I bother ordering an N2 or is the N3 close to coming out?

[22:17]

pjz: I heard end of summer...

[22:18]

Miker__: you dont have to unseat it, but you certainly can

[22:18]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: I have to, otherwise it won't mount...

[22:18]

<pjz>

SmrtJustin: 6mo isn't that long to wait for something I'll probably spend a lot of time with

[22:19]

<NC-17>

my n1 usb2 bp doesnt load in windows with the brain on, but thats cause my brain is fried i think, hence ordering a new n2 256flash bundle, no hd bp combo

[22:19]

Miker__: I have to let mine sit for like 6sec before I can mount it.

[22:20]

Miker__: what does it do when you plug it in w/ the brain on? does it go into sync mode? does the HD spin up?

[22:20]

<Miker__>

smrtjustin:i'm right now syncing without the brain so can't tell

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: but do you know of any firmware issue like this? (garbage FW)

Miker__: I'm not aware of one, but heck when I used Garbage had many problems until I switched back to Bernard's

Miker__: you could try reflashing it.

did you format the NAND?

[22:22]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: is bernard's the latest rage? Concering nand, I have done that before yes...but it's worth a try

[22:23]

Miker__: Bernard's is just GarBage's with the animations and a welcome screen (which I find sort of annoying, but I live w/ it)

[22:23]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: so how come you have less problems with it :) Are there also bug fixes included maybe?

[22:24]

Miker__: I think I Just had a bad flash, or I dont remember if I formated the NAND or not, so that could have played a role.

[22:25]

Miker__: go ahead and try Bernard's if you want, its really almost the same as the Garbage firmware branch

[22:25]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: yeah, remembering what you did when is not so easy...I will retry it later with the brain on and rephrase my questions

[22:25]

I use it because I'm sort of attatched to the animations

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: I'm more into performance and battery life :)

Miker__: let me know what happens and we'll go back through troubleshooting it.

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: ok thanks!

Miker__: oh I know, I'd love to have longer battery life.

np

[22:27]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: it's long enough like it is but still, longer is beter!

[22:27]

yeah, I think the caching system needs work, but thats a major project that it seems no one wants to take on.

[22:28]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: I know, I bought a 256Mb in the hope someone could fill it with precached music, didn't know it was that hard...

[22:29]

Miker__: the 256m I would think would be slightly better than 64mb I have.

[22:30]

<Miker__>

SmrtJustin: you would think yes, but I haven't noticed much intelligent caching behaviour...when I shutdown and restart, the HD is read while there surely must be some cache left in the flash mem

<Miker__>

maybe we should stop, people are leaving in an ever accelerating pace!

Miker__: I think what it does is save it's cache to the HD, and then loads it off again when it turns on.

lol

but then again, I'm not a f/w dev so I have no idea what its doing.