Log from #neuros IRC channel

unknown_lamer, do you think $30 is an OK price for a poster copy of original art? assuming it's quality and no frame comes with it. we'd have next day service, but you'd have to pay for whichever shipping you wanted.

<unknown_lamer>

Well

<unknown_lamer>

Maybe

<unknown_lamer>

I'd google around for poster prices

mmm titties.

;o0

Sin City == Awesome.

can't wait for the flick.

[04:40]

right. there are lot's of poster houses. but almost all either enlarge your own image or sell copyrighted content.

[04:40]

<unknown_lamer>

Well

[04:41]

<unknown_lamer>

They are operating on smaller margins than you because they have to pay license fees

[04:41]

<unknown_lamer>

That are going to be more than what it would cost to employ an artist

[04:41]

depending on volume, yes. but we're paying the artist by the copy. probably 50/50.

[04:42]

<unknown_lamer>

Well

[04:42]

<unknown_lamer>

How much does it cost for ink and paper?

[04:43]

it all depends on what quality you want. rough figures are about $3.00 per sq. ft. using average photo paper.

[04:43]

but for canvas or fine art paper the costs are *much* higher.

[04:44]

possibly up to $15 a sq.ft.

[04:44]

<unknown_lamer>

This is on personal equipment?

[04:45]

we have to purchase equipment and materials. but i have a lead on a really good price for the printer.

[04:46]

we already have a few artists with lots of material. one guy is a nature photographer. he's a sick dude. he went to Alaska last summer and was taking shots of a grizzly cub nursing it's mother from about 30 yards away!

[04:49]

<unknown_lamer>

I mean like personal or pro level equipment?>

[04:52]

$12k wide-format inkjet printer.

[04:54]

and when we can afford it, an Epson that can print flawless images. that's $5k. we also have to buy a software RIP that converts images from TIFF to .rtl (printer language).

[04:55]

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "pro level"...

[05:17]

<noiz>

can anyone help me with when the recorder was recording a movie, it chrashed, and now ive deleted all files and hidden files that debian can see on the memory card, but yet it still shows 550+mb are still being used

[05:18]

<noiz>

the main thing i want to know if my recording can be recovered since its apparently still on the memory card

[05:18]

<Yono>

really?

[05:18]

<Yono>

I thought it would just be a temp file or something

[05:32]

<noiz>

yeah, thats what i thought too, but i cant see any files or hidden files on the device

[05:33]

<noiz>

'ls -a' doesnt show any files, and i have to go for a bit, but if anyone has any advice for me i'll read it when i get back

[05:33]

<Yono>

weird

[05:33]

<Yono>

if it crashes I doubt it would delete the temp

[06:35]

hi!

[06:39]

<Yono>

hey there!

[06:39]

<Yono>

what brings you here srobertson?

[06:40]

Oh, you know... doing calculus at midnight...

read the logs and it looked like you guys were having fun in here!

<Yono>

thats the plan

besides, I want to start doing more stuff for the Neuros community, and this seemed the place to start

<Yono>

indeed

[06:42]

<Yono>

you've had neuros since around last may, interesting

[06:43]

...grumble... friggin' administrators .../grumble... :)

[06:44]

(because the markup languages of the future all use elipses as the new markup identifiers!)

[06:44]

<Yono>

haha

[06:44]

<Yono>

So, I take it you want to make your own firmware?

[06:45]

I don't really have that many creative tweaks to make my own firmware...

<Yono>

do you have an email?

<Yono>

u can pm it if you'd like

I more just want to make patches for bugs; a full release is beyond my time budget right now (i really hate marketing speak)

steven (at) ninjacomputer dot com

[06:48]

<Yono>

ok, try out the firmware I sent

[06:48]

<Yono>

just an example of the cool stuff you can do :)

what's it based off of? (flashing now)

<Yono>

GarBage branch

<Yono>

same as everything else

<Yono>

the file browser isn't as nice as in 2.28, but everything else is the same/better than the official

spiffy. and useful.

Neat idea.

srobertson: let me know if you need some ideas for little tweaks... ;-)

<Yono>

steve: what do you mostly use ur neuros for?

[06:54]

Chawn420: My first project is ReplayGain; should be simple, but I haven't looked too hard at it

[06:54]

Yono: Listening away from my desktop, which is increasingly popular. As soon as I get a car, it'll be mostly there and at school.

[06:57]

I will probably need to do some recording, too, soon; I'm looking forward to the N3 and potential multi-line recording.

[06:57]

<Yono>

haha, listening away from the desktop, I think NA needs to send some people to look into that ;)

[06:57]

s/popular/common/

[06:58]

I meant that I'm doing it now more than ever. I said it weird.

[06:58]

<Yono>

ah, well good luck on the replaygain

what do you mean by replaygain?

<Yono>

chawn: bugzilla.neurosaudio.com

www.replaygain.org

It's a fancy normalizer.

[07:00]

It stores gains in tags, so it doesn't modify the file or compress the dynamic range or anything past metadata.

[07:01]

<Yono>

would you plan on implementing vorbisgain also?

I would hope to make it tag-independent: the sync app would read the replaygain data, store it in an extrafield in the database, and the decode routine would apply the gain.

It's up to the sync app to support mp3gain, vorbisgain, flacgain, whatevergain

<Yono>

ah, I see

But it should be trivial to implement for the sync app

[07:03]

<Yono>

that way you don't have to deal with the C# DB code yourself :)

[07:03]

Definite plus.

[07:04]

I'm still trying to get qemu working in linux so I can compile, tho

[07:06]

ahhh, ok. the main use it to make sure all your songs play at the same level with appropriate equalizer settings...?

[07:07]

<Yono>

yep

[07:07]

cool.

[07:07]

srobertson: may the force be with you...

live long and... prosper? umm, no that's not right

<Yono>

I'm going to sleep, later guys

<Yono>

good luck steve

Buena suerte, y gracias.

later yono...

ph34r the forigen language action!

i'm out too. off to a fiesta...

Have fun, then.

<Yono>

Auf Wiedersehen, Bitte.

<Yono>

:)

* srobertson hides his head in shame

<Yono>

haha, thats about all the german I know

I still couldn't pronounce it.

<Yono>

later guys

[18:28]

<Yono>

hello all

[19:07]

<Yono>

looks like GarBage wants the podcast bounty

[19:32]

If I was a betting man I say DeeP B will get it. LOL

[19:34]

most probable if he's working on it

[19:39]

agreed

[19:40]

i'm not really into podcasting, so i don't know. but appearently the bulk of the work is done by the sync manager, so shouldn't be all that hard to do, too

[19:49]

Its a growing trend, so I was hoping it would come about

[19:54]

<Yono>

FLAC and RG are much more important to me, but they're being worked on already

What is RG?

ReplayGain

the gain

Yeah

how goes FLAC ?

It's a secret

i love secrets :)

Good

why the secrecy, though ?

[19:57]

That's a secret too

[19:57]

mmmh, did you get a job at TI recently ? ;)

[19:59]

No, I work for Agilent

[19:59]

<Yono>

(which was recently aquired by TI) ;)

<Yono>

haha, j/k

:)

authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=NODEVssh ruser= rhost=210.105.44.167 : 255 Time(s)

Don't people give up? :)

are they trying to login into your box ?

yes

255 times is rather persistent. or a script

It's a root script

I've seen it before

They try to login with the same names

It's pretty lame

[20:02]

some lame kiddie, probably

[20:02]

root (210.105.44.167): 74 Time(s)

[21:11]

<Yono>

Bounty has been slashdotted: developers.slashdot.org

well 1000 is not really at lot of money

so front page material its not

<Yono>

its quite a bit for a bounty