[00:35] <sgomes> hey everyone, one question. I'll probably be buying a 30 GB Neuros next week, I'm just not sure whether to buy an HD unit or a combo. Is the combo worth the 70 (at americantechpushers) extra dollars?
[00:37] <iswm> Will you be doing lots of physical activity with it? (Running, working out, etc)
[00:38] <sgomes> not really, it'll be mostly for listening while sitting down
[00:38] <iswm> Then probably not.
[00:39] <sgomes> hmm, thanks for the tip
[02:11] <SmrtJustin> can't the firmware use that extra RAM (or w/e they call it) for cache?
[02:18] <Yono> i'm pretty sure it doe
[02:18] <Yono> s
[02:22] <unknown_lamer> dreamtheater.net OH MY GOD
[02:22] <unknown_lamer> $35 tickets!
[02:23] <unknown_lamer> l;jl;j
[02:23] <unknown_lamer> Megadeth, Dream Theater, Fear Factory, Dillinger Escape Plan, and Nevermore
[02:23] <unknown_lamer> + second stage bands
[02:23] <unknown_lamer> For $35! FUCK OZZFEST.
[02:28] <iswm> Dream Theater is really good
[02:40] <noiz> is there a way to get the audio from the recorder to work in linux?
[02:56] <mbishop> AmericanTechpush: Any idea about the status of orders right now? I still haven't gotten a shipping confirmation
[02:58] <noiz> i didnt get a confirmation either, but i know that it has shipped
[03:27] <mbishop> noiz: how do you know?
[03:28] <noiz> i talked to Joe about it and email sent me an email yesterday saying my backpacks would ship today
[03:29] <noiz> *and support sent me an email
[03:34] <noiz> hey Yono
[03:35] <Yono> hey noiz
[03:35] <noiz> do you know if the current format that the recorder records in can be played on linux, both audio and video?
[03:35] <Yono> not natively
[03:35] <unknown_lamer> Hrm>
[03:35] <Yono> through conversion probably
[03:35] * unknown_lamer  played audio and video from the recorder before
[03:35] <unknown_lamer> with mplayer
[03:36] <unknown_lamer> I forgot the format
[03:36] <Yono> fine, listen to lamer then
[03:36] <noiz> cuz i cant get audio to work
[03:36] * Yono  desperately need to upgrade to FC3 when he gets a chance
[03:36] <unknown_lamer> Yono: Use Debian :-)
[03:36] <unknown_lamer> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:36] <unknown_lamer> donme.
[03:37] <Yono> haha, is debian any good with wireless?
[03:37] <noiz> yeah, Debian much better than FC3
[03:37] <Yono> I'm trying to install it on my laptop and it won't accept the unofficial drivers (haha, had to build em from scratch using a guide)
[03:37] <noiz> unknown_lamer: so you dont know what package i would need to get to have the audio work?
[03:38] <Yono> G.7xx I think
[03:38] <unknown_lamer> I build mplayer / ffmpeg myself
[03:38] <Yono> I forgot what the xs were
[03:38] <unknown_lamer> With standard build options
[03:40] <Yono> || test
[03:40] <Yono> || ok, this can't get on the logs, but you can update firmware without a charger
[03:41] <Yono> || when it says to plug in power, just hold down hisi
[03:42] <noiz> || crazy
[03:42] <Yono> unkown_lamer's got mad linux skillz :)
[03:43] <noiz> maybe i'll try building my own versions, but i'll probably not get around to it until some other audio codec is implemented so it wont even matter
[03:48] <unknown_lamer> Heh
[03:48] <unknown_lamer> I met a girl
[03:48] <unknown_lamer> and she has a GNU/Linux box
[03:48] <unknown_lamer> and she's metal
[03:48] <unknown_lamer> It's awesome
[03:48] <Yono> lol
[03:48] <unknown_lamer> She's a chem eng major
[03:49] <unknown_lamer> It is my plan now to bone her.
[03:49] <noiz> later everyone
[03:53] <DeepB> anyone care to try to sorune podcast support?
[03:53] <unknown_lamer> Damnit, you beat me to the $1000
[03:53] * unknown_lamer  wonders what a podcast is
[03:54] <DeepB> to me, it's kinda a stupid thing
[03:54] <unknown_lamer> But for a $1000 who cares, right?
[03:54] <DeepB> like a personalizad radio over the internet using XML feeds
[03:54] <unknown_lamer> Oh
[03:54] <unknown_lamer> XML is evil
[03:55] <Yono> I'd rather have the grand spent towards wireless file transfer ;)
[03:55] <unknown_lamer> Hah
[03:55] <Yono> may also be useless, but at least it comes with bragging rights :)
[03:55] <unknown_lamer> That's way more than a grand of work :-)
[03:55] <unknown_lamer> www.petitiononline.com
[03:56] <DeepB> yeah, sure, Joe should have been put the bounty onto a non-useless thing
[03:56] * unknown_lamer  should learn Perl
[03:57] <DeepB> i mean, i had a working beta after a very few hours of work
[03:57] <DeepB> and without a working neuros
[03:57] <unknown_lamer> ha ha
[03:58] <Yono> DeepB: what would you have had the bounty be?
[03:58] <DeepB> excuse moi?
[03:58] <Yono> what would you have had the bounty for achieving instead of podcast support?
[03:59] <Yono> you know the source better than the rest of us, you know what needs to be done
[03:59] <DeepB> dunno, maybe FLAC, or MPC or else
[03:59] <Yono> unknown_lamer: docs.rinet.ru
[03:59] <DeepB> something really useful
[03:59] <unknown_lamer> Hah
[03:59] <Yono> Starkey's got FLAC under control
[03:59] <unknown_lamer> Yono: I as just going to get the O'Reilly book
[03:59] <DeepB> s/really/actually/
[03:59] <Yono> TI's stopping the MPC
[04:00] <unknown_lamer> How ?
[04:00] <Yono> and Steve something or other is working on replaygain
[04:00] <Yono> they won't give NA rights to the MPEG code
[04:00] <unknown_lamer> rpgain better have a gaim + limiter
[04:00] <unknown_lamer> So?
[04:00] <unknown_lamer> What does the mpeg code have to do with mpc?
[04:01] <Yono> mpc is based on the mpeg2 code
[04:01] <unknown_lamer> Oh
[04:01] <unknown_lamer> mpc = musepack?>
[04:01] <Yono> writing it from scratch would be a big waste of time
[04:01] <Yono> yep
[04:02] <Yono> on the other hand, wavpack would only take about a hundred lines of code according to Starkey ;)
[04:02] <DeepB> yeah, wavpack source is a quite clean piece of work, pretty portable
[04:02] <Yono> so DeepB, how many hours of work do you think you got left until you get to have a nice dinner? ;)
[04:03] <DeepB> try it
[04:03] <DeepB> i think it's already done
[04:03] <Yono> haha, are you serious?
[04:03] <Yono> you realize it has to be able to upload podcasts recorded on the mic, right?
[04:04] <DeepB> maybe there are some things to add/polish, like caching and error handling, and maybe thread spawning
[04:04] <DeepB> but the podcast handling is done
[04:05] <DeepB> the uploading stuff it's pretty site dependant
[04:06] <DeepB> there are things like authentication, form field names, etc.. which differs on every case
[04:06] <Yono> right, right
[04:06] <Yono> so you did it all without any firmware work, awesome
[04:07] <DeepB> actually, a bit of rework on the firmware should be ideal, i.e, to treat mic recordings as podcasts natively
[04:08] <Yono> right, but thats still great
[04:08] <Yono> I'm gonna get some sleep, ttyl
[04:09] <Yono> later u_l
[23:10] <noiz> DeepB,derobert: hey, either of you use redhat/fedora or slackware and would be willing to test something for me?
[23:11] <DeepB> noiz: debian/ubuntu here, sorry
[23:14] <noiz> is ubuntu much better than debian?
[23:15] <DeepB> quite
[23:16] <DeepB> it's has newer packages, while retaining most of DFSG
[23:17] <DeepB> it's also much more user friendly
[23:17] <noiz> cool
[23:18] <noiz> do you know if ubuntu has a kernel that has ndiswrapper already built?
[23:19] <DeepB> i don't think so
[23:19] <DeepB> but building a custom kernel it's pretty easy
[23:20] <noiz> yeah, but im pretty lazy, and right now the comp only has shell support
[23:20] <noiz> i cant figure out why it wont use gnome
[23:58] <noiz> DeepB: if i build the kernel on my debian box and make the .deb file, it should be able to install on my ubuntu box, right?
[23:59] <DeepB> yep, it should