| [13:45] | <pjz> | howdy howdy |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | whee - nothing like login scripts that need to be run on 5 different systems |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | my .xinitrc: |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | if ! [ -x "$(which blackbox)" ]; then |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | # Emergency backup window manager |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | (mwm || twm || xterm) & |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | else |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | blackbox & |
| [13:54] | <JoshMalone> | fi |
| [13:56] | <pjz> | fun |
| [14:00] | <JoshMalone> | :) yeah, and then there's the .xinitrc |
| [14:00] | <JoshMalone> | I mean bashrc |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | case "$sysrev" in |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | OSF1\ *) pmarch=ALPHA;; |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | SunOS\ *4*) pmarch=SUN4;; |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | SunOS\ *[56]*) pmarch=SOL;; |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | [Ll]inux*|I[3-7]86*) |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | case `uname -m` in |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | i[3-7]86) pmarch=LINUX;; |
| [14:01] | <JoshMalone> | [Aa]lpha) pmarch=AXLINUX;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | [Ss]parc*) pmarch=SPLINUX;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | *) pmarch=UNKNOWNLINUX;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | esac;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | HP*) pmarch=HP;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | AIX*) pmarch=IBM;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | Irix*) pmarch=SGI;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | Ultrix*) pmarch=DEC;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | FreeBSD*) pmarch=FREEBSD;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | Convex*) pmarch=CVEX;; |
| [14:02] | <JoshMalone> | guess that's what happens in a place that's been around since the 60s :) |
| [14:21] | <JoeBorn> | hey, Eagle: how did you get digg? |
| [14:27] | <Eagle_Fire> | "get" it? |
| [14:31] | <Eagle_Fire> | just wrote something interesting |
| [14:31] | <Eagle_Fire> | and submitted it for the unwashed masses to consume |
| [14:36] | <JoeBorn> | gotcha |
| [14:36] | <JoeBorn> | I thought there might something more, like you'd tell your buddies who would get it started or something like that |
| [14:36] | <Eagle_Fire> | i hope my "3-d rendering in a browser using AJAX" gets as much recognition |
| [14:37] | <Eagle_Fire> | i asked #openwrt to digg it but only two people bothered |
| [14:37] | <JoeBorn> | how many visitors did you get? |
| [14:37] | <Eagle_Fire> | according to Google adsense, 17,000 |
| [14:37] | <JoeBorn> | wow, that's incredible. |
| [14:37] | <JoeBorn> | so how much did that make you? |
| [14:38] | <Eagle_Fire> | six dollars... less than it cost me |
| [14:38] | <Eagle_Fire> | because Google wasn't displaying relevant ads at the time |
| [14:38] | <Eagle_Fire> | macintosh hinge repair and such |
| [14:38] | <Eagle_Fire> | no idea why |
| [14:39] | <JoeBorn> | well, you can certainly do better than that. |
| [14:40] | <Eagle_Fire> | actually over the last week i've gotten $19.37 from all the sites around |
| [14:40] | <Eagle_Fire> | which i linked to at the bottom |
| [14:40] | <JoeBorn> | we should talk about putting some neuros stuff in there or as a banner or something |
| [14:41] | <JoshMalone> | wooo...$19 :) |
| [14:41] | <JoshMalone> | sorry - cynical mode right now |
| [14:41] | <JoshMalone> | overworked, undersleeped :( |
| [14:42] | <JoeBorn> | sounds like enough to make one cranky |
| [14:42] | <JoshMalone> | it has :( |
| [14:44] | <Eagle_Fire> | well if Neuros would like to sponsor my next submission i'd be happy to toss something on |
| [14:44] | <Eagle_Fire> | text only, of course, to fit with the style of the site |
| [14:44] | <JoeBorn> | fair enough, yes, we'd be happy to sponsor |
| [14:46] | <JoeBorn> | the biggest thing I'm struggling with is where to point someone new |
| [14:46] | <JoeBorn> | www.theneuros.com |
| [14:46] | <JoeBorn> | is one option, but there really is no place that gives an intro as well as links to other stuff |
| [14:47] | <JoeBorn> | but anyway, if you're doing another submission give it some thought. |
| [14:47] | <Eagle_Fire> | it'll probably be next week before i get something out, so don't feel rushed |
| [14:47] | <JoeBorn> | ok, well in the meantime, let us know what you think is fair. |
| [14:47] | <JoeBorn> | we're not really in the market for advertising but sponsoring a hack or two of yours would be fine. |
| [14:48] | <Eagle_Fire> | righto |
| [14:48] | <pjz> | JoeBorn: is there a 'History of the Neuros Project' page? That might be a good starting point. |
| [14:49] | <JoeBorn> | well, not really. DeepB and I talked about that. |
| [14:49] | <Eagle_Fire> | i would also be open to writing something solely for neuros |
| [14:50] | <JoeBorn> | this is www.theneuros.com |
| [14:50] | <JoeBorn> | that's the closest thing |
| [14:50] | <Eagle_Fire> | hmm, according to Google my best money came from a really old hack i did, wlcolor.natetrue.com |
| [14:50] | <JoeBorn> | Eagle: that would be good too. |
| [14:53] | <JoeBorn> | probably the best thing would be for us to send you a dev board and you can think of something there. |
| [14:54] | <Eagle_Fire> | damn straight |
| [14:54] | <JoeBorn> | pjz: what are you thinking? Like "here's the story of Neuros and how we got hacker friendly" or something like that? |
| [14:54] | <Eagle_Fire> | that is, provided it's running a usable OS |
| [14:54] | <pjz> | JoeBorn: yeah, someething like that |
| [14:55] | <pjz> | JoeBorn: basically, 'here's how we got the way we are, come join in the fun!' kind of thing |
| [14:55] | <JoeBorn> | we'll as you know they are bringing the dev boards up as we speak. |
| [14:55] | <pjz> | yup |
| [14:56] | <pjz> | I'm a keen tracker of your progress |
| [14:56] | <Eagle_Fire> | he's the one parked in a van outside your house all night |
| [14:56] | <JoeBorn> | I know I've been sleeping in that van a night or two a week |
| [14:56] | <Eagle_Fire> | gross |
| [14:57] | <JoeBorn> | not really, I can hose off in the back yard on warm days. |
| [14:57] | <pjz> | well, my empeg got stolen from my car so I've been looking for something to replace it with |
| [14:57] | <Eagle_Fire> | has neuros looked into producing a car audio/video solution? |
| [14:57] | <pjz> | now THAT would be a fun mod: a car dock |
| [14:58] | <Eagle_Fire> | the form factor is definitely small enough |
| [14:58] | <Eagle_Fire> | to fit in one of those audio bays |
| [14:58] | * JoshMalone will be trying a home stereo component, as mentioned :) | |
| [15:01] | <pjz> | so if you make a story like that and just one person does it, they may think he's an abberation. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both off their gourd and won't pay attention to either of them. And if the people do it, three, can you imagine, three people joining in on the development of the N3 and the 442L, they may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said fifty people a day going |
| [15:02] | <Eagle_Fire> | of course, if i do a hack with the neuros dev board, and it gets popular |
| [15:03] | <Eagle_Fire> | you're going to see a surge in demand for dev boards, from people who want to also do it |
| [15:03] | <pjz> | save your hacks for the production boards :) |
| [15:03] | <Eagle_Fire> | i don't control my hacks |
| [15:03] | <Eagle_Fire> | they control me |
| [15:04] | * pjz ponders wiring up a USB VFD and IR port to the front of a DIN-sized case that will take a production board | |
| [15:05] | <Eagle_Fire> | you can get USB VFD's? |
| [15:05] | <pjz> | I think so |
| [15:05] | <JoeBorn> | what's a VFD? |
| [15:05] | <JoshMalone> | vacuum flourescent display? |
| [15:05] | <pjz> | yeah |
| [15:05] | <Eagle_Fire> | hmm, sure enough |
| [15:05] | <JoshMalone> | wow - I was going with a crystalfontz serial LCD |
| [15:05] | <JoeBorn> | oh sorry, right |
| [15:06] | <pjz> | there's another hack for you: alarm clock! |
| [15:06] | <JoeBorn> | we have sources for VFD modules that I believe work with the boards |
| [15:06] | <JoeBorn> | but the interface is serial I believe |
| [15:06] | <pjz> | this is why USB wins :) |
| [15:22] | <JoshMalone> | damn my perl is so rusty I need a tetnus shot |
| [15:36] | <pjz> | yeah, I had to go peer at a bunch of example code to get the syntax back in my head when I needed to write a script the other day |
| [15:48] | <JoshMalone> | yeah - me too. And I so used to love perl |
| [15:48] | <pjz> | the last perl I loved was 4.036 |
| [15:48] | <pjz> | it was all downhill from there |
| [18:12] | <pjz> | what's the best N2 sync manager? |
| [18:12] | <pjz> | there was a java one I liked, I think |
| [19:18] | <NC-17> | ndbm was that |