| [02:35] | <ukh> | the neuros audio players are no longer sold at all? |
| [13:59] | <JoeBorn> | hi all |
| [18:04] | <Eagle_Fire> | hello |
| [18:08] | <JoeBorn> | howdy |
| [18:10] | <nerochiaro> | hey |
| [18:10] | <Eagle_Fire> | sup |
| [18:12] | <nerochiaro> | not much. i was looking around for T9-like systems to input text into the neuros |
| [18:12] | <nerochiaro> | predictive text input |
| [18:12] | <Eagle_Fire> | yeah |
| [18:12] | <Eagle_Fire> | i recall a system that used corners for input |
| [18:12] | <Eagle_Fire> | forget what it was called though |
| [18:12] | <nerochiaro> | corners ? |
| [18:13] | <Eagle_Fire> | like, the screen is split into 8 regions, left/right/up/down and corners |
| [18:13] | <Eagle_Fire> | each of the 8 regions selected some many chars of the alphabet to be assigned to the other regions for the second press |
| [18:13] | <Eagle_Fire> | steep learning curve but supposedly quite fast |
| [18:14] | <Eagle_Fire> | i'm not sure the neuros products will need much along the line of text input |
| [18:17] | <nerochiaro> | well, can be useful for some things. like editing tags on the fly, or inputting times (e.g. for accurate seeking) |
| [18:18] | <nerochiaro> | that thing with corners seems a good idea |
| [18:18] | <Eagle_Fire> | with a center button you can make a number pad |
| [18:18] | <nerochiaro> | with 5 directions, not 8 |
| [18:19] | <Eagle_Fire> | corners? |
| [18:19] | <Eagle_Fire> | l/r/u/d/ul/ur/dl/dr/center |
| [18:19] | <Eagle_Fire> | nine |
| [18:19] | <nerochiaro> | dl/dr aren't in into the current N2 pad. i seem to understand the N3 pad will be along these lines ? |
| [18:20] | <nerochiaro> | ur/ul too, of course |
| [18:20] | <Eagle_Fire> | should work |
| [18:28] | <JoeBorn> | 442v2 will likely use the same "joystick" or controller scheme as the current, as you know. |
| [18:28] | <Eagle_Fire> | yup |
| [18:28] | <JoeBorn> | I think text input is pretty important. |
| [18:28] | <JoeBorn> | there are a lot of applications that are just not possible without some reasonable text input. |
| [18:29] | <JoeBorn> | and I'm not even thinking of PDA type stuff, but more media focused. |
| [18:29] | <Eagle_Fire> | seems pretty farfetched with a 4-way dpad and center |
| [18:29] | <Eagle_Fire> | with usb-otg you can add a keyboard if you really need one |
| [18:29] | <JoeBorn> | my garmin GPS does it and its reasonable for small things. |
| [18:29] | <JoeBorn> | it's still better than having to name recordings at the PC. |
| [18:29] | <Eagle_Fire> | i think a 2-dimensional letter array should be fine for most things |
| [18:30] | <JoeBorn> | right. |
| [18:30] | <JoeBorn> | that's what the GPS uses. |
| [18:30] | <JoeBorn> | still haven't gotten my Tivo on the home network yet. |
| [18:30] | <Eagle_Fire> | you could have a 25-letter 5x5 grid, where most-used letters are in the center |
| [18:31] | <Eagle_Fire> | why not? too difficult? |
| [18:31] | <JoeBorn> | I don't know, maybe my home network is screwed up. I'm using a netgear adapter that's on the Tivo approved list. |
| [18:31] | <Eagle_Fire> | i use a netgear too |
| [18:31] | <JoeBorn> | it sees the access point, but can't get to the network |
| [18:31] | <Eagle_Fire> | oh, i use ethernet |
| [18:32] | <Eagle_Fire> | i figured wireless would be too slow xfering episodes |
| [18:32] | <JoeBorn> | I'm thinking DHCP isn't working right for some reason. |
| [18:32] | <Eagle_Fire> | does it give you a specific error message |
| [18:32] | <JoeBorn> | well apparantly the bottleneck isn't at the bandwidth. |
| [18:32] | <JoeBorn> | I think it uses 11mbps USB anyhow. |
| [18:33] | <Eagle_Fire> | well you'll be lucky to get 11mbps over a wireless network either |
| [18:33] | <JoeBorn> | I'll let you know when I try again. I'm going to try manually set the IP and DNS and if that doesn't work, I'll take some notes on what it says. |
| [18:33] | <JoeBorn> | ok, off to dinner |
| [18:33] | <Eagle_Fire> | enjoy |
| [18:36] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: still there ? |
| [18:36] | <nerochiaro> | oh well, i'm off to sleep then. bye |
| [18:37] | <Eagle_Fire> | bye |
| [19:13] | <JoeBorn> | I'm back for a minute |
| [20:23] | <Eagle_Fire> | hi |
| [23:54] | <JoeBorn> | does anyone understand the structure of a DVD? |
| [23:55] | <JoeBorn> | ifo, vob files |
| [23:55] | <JoeBorn> | empty audio directories |
| [23:55] | <JoeBorn> | Video_ts files |