| Timestamp | Nick | Message |
| [04:37] |
<nick_fn> |
Hiya. I seem to remember reading that PAL svideo input isn't support yet. My Sky set top box can only output PAL svideo, so I suspect that's what's wrong with the picture. Is it still the case? |
| [04:51] |
<JoeBorn> |
are you using the latest (release 11/2) firmware? |
| [04:51] |
<JoeBorn> |
I'll have to look at the release notes, but my recollection is that PAL has not been fixed. |
| [04:52] |
<nick_fn> |
3.25-0.23, yes. I should have just said that upfront, sorry. |
| [04:52] |
<nick_fn> |
IRC logs for 2006/10/01 suggest it is done, but "Dynamic detecting and switch is not supported.". I couldn't find a menu option though to turn it on |
| [04:53] |
<NagyZ> |
hello ppl |
| [04:53] |
<nick_fn> |
Also how on earth do you get rid of the menu system, if you just want to watch TV live? |
| [04:54] |
<nick_fn> |
(not that I can, without PAL input support mind you ;-) ) |
| [04:58] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm working on subtitles support.. ;) |
| [05:05] |
<nick_fn> |
The "OSD console" that drops a busybox shell onto my TV.... how would one type anything? |
| [05:05] |
<nick_fn> |
IIRC there is no USB HID support yet? |
| [05:07] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [05:07] |
<NagyZ> |
fire up the serial connection |
| [05:07] |
<NagyZ> |
or use telnet |
| [05:08] |
<nick_fn> |
That wouldn't appear on the TV though, would it? |
| [05:08] |
<NagyZ> |
telnet would not |
| [05:08] |
<nick_fn> |
not that I mind at all, just wondering if that is useful or not :-) |
| [05:08] |
<NagyZ> |
if you fire up your serial connection |
| [05:08] |
<NagyZ> |
that would. |
| [05:08] |
<NagyZ> |
if you type anything there and have the console app running |
| [05:08] |
<nick_fn> |
ah, I see. I've not tried serial yet; I went an installed the OSD into my cabinet, and I don't have a really really long serial cable yet... |
| [05:08] |
<NagyZ> |
and what are you planning to do with it? |
| [05:09] |
<NagyZ> |
just use it, or.. |
| [05:09] |
<NagyZ> |
develop for it? |
| [05:09] |
<nick_fn> |
develop, I expected I could do it mostly over ethernet. I'll probably get a long cable so serial can reach my laptop or something now. |
| [05:09] |
<NagyZ> |
well I'm using both serial and ethernet |
| [05:09] |
<NagyZ> |
and I'm also developing |
| [05:11] |
<nick_fn> |
off to the shops, bbl. |
| [05:13] |
<NagyZ> |
by |
| [05:30] |
* codebrewery |
mornings |
| [05:40] |
<JoeBorn> |
gao has been working for hours and hours on this random crashing bug |
| [05:41] |
<JoeBorn> |
the device is doing much better other than that with this new release. |
| [05:50] |
<codebrewery> |
is this re: the new firmware release? |
| [05:53] |
* codebrewery |
pokes JoeBorn before upgrading his firmware |
| [05:55] |
<codebrewery> |
if not, can $sysadmin update /files/osdversion.ver to reflect the new firmware version? |
| [05:55] |
<JoeBorn> |
yes. |
| [05:56] |
<JoeBorn> |
it still has some issues, but it's a big improvement |
| [05:56] |
<codebrewery> |
d'oh |
| [05:57] |
<codebrewery> |
does "random crashes" == "don't upgrade"? |
| [06:01] |
<NagyZ> |
if I use svn I dont have to upgrade anything, right? |
| [06:02] |
<NagyZ> |
it's the latest ;> |
| [06:08] |
<codebrewery> |
bah, stupid router |
| [06:08] |
<codebrewery> |
anyhoo, was that a "don't upgrade" warning? or is it still better than the current firmware? |
| [06:12] |
* codebrewery |
`svn switch`es |
| [06:13] |
<JoeBorn> |
still much better than current firmware |
| [06:14] |
<JoeBorn> |
NagyZ: svn has the very latest, so you should be ok, although obviously unreleased code is not tested either. |
| [06:14] |
<NagyZ> |
it's ok |
| [06:17] |
<codebrewery> |
should i report minor bugs ('niggles') to bugzilla? |
| [06:20] |
<codebrewery> |
(wasn't sure if we're avoiding minor niggles for the time being, while more important stuff is fixed) |
| [06:37] |
<JoeBorn> |
codebrewery: I would put everything in there. |
| [06:41] |
<JoeBorn> |
I'm trying to put some notes on things that will have to be overhauled, like the current IR Blaster menus. |
| [06:41] |
<JoeBorn> |
so that folks won't spend a lot of time on that knowing that it'll be replaced... |
| [06:41] |
<codebrewery> |
hrm, i'm trying to upgrade, but it's been "upgrading" for a looong time now |
| [06:42] |
<codebrewery> |
(and i can't shell in anymore) |
| [06:42] |
<codebrewery> |
that's worrying |
| [06:42] |
<codebrewery> |
i suspect it's crashed |
| [06:43] |
* codebrewery |
resets |
| [06:45] |
* codebrewery |
is glad to see it come back up |
| [06:46] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: you sure you want to run on trunk ? |
| [06:47] |
* nerochiaro |
mornings (well, afternoons at this point) |
| [06:49] |
<nerochiaro> |
JoeBorn: it should be nice if you could poke the folks into replying a bit to that ML thread asking for info about making upk packages. Especially after Gao's scary bricking warning |
| [06:49] |
<codebrewery> |
who needs poking to update /files/osdversion.ver? |
| [06:49] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: where is that ? |
| [06:49] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: on osd ? |
| [06:50] |
<codebrewery> |
nerochiaro, for the "auto update" thingy |
| [06:51] |
<codebrewery> |
it currently reports: |
| [06:51] |
<codebrewery> |
OSDFirmwareVersion: 3.20-0.20 |
| [06:51] |
<codebrewery> |
so you can't auto-update to the new versin |
| [06:53] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: i guess your best shot is posting that in ML. and bugzilla maybe ? |
| [06:54] |
<codebrewery> |
ok, i thought maybe there was somebody here to report it to for a quick fix |
| [06:54] |
* codebrewery |
wanders to bugzilla |
| [06:55] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: aside from JoeBorn there's no one here from neuros usually. sometimes jack, but rarely |
| [06:57] |
* codebrewery |
didn't realise the JoeBorn was Joe from Neuros |
| [06:58] |
<codebrewery> |
hrm, copying a file from NFS to USB seems to cause the OSD to hang ... odd |
| [07:06] |
* codebrewery |
chuckles at the HUGE red text during the upgrade process |
| [07:28] |
<codebrewery> |
gah, all the source code uses mixed tabs |
| [07:30] |
* codebrewery |
goes to find a phono-scart converter so he can /use/ his OSD |
| [08:09] |
<JoeBorn> |
nerochiaro: ok, I'll take a look |
| [08:35] |
<[g2]> |
JoeBorn re: crashbug, Do you know if it's the dog biting or a real crash bug |
| [08:36] |
<[g2]> |
in the former, a process get busy, in the latter you go off in the weeds |
| [08:36] |
<[g2]> |
with the former, disabling the dog will allow you to see which process runs away with the processor |
| [08:36] |
<[g2]> |
in the latter, a JTAG trace buffer can show the whole history before the reboot |
| [08:41] |
<JoeBorn> |
I think the dog does the reset |
| [08:46] |
<[g2]> |
JoeBorn that'd be my guess also, so just disable the dog or syslog the processor utilization on the network when the dog bites |
| [08:47] |
<[g2]> |
scratch the second part, that'd require a hardware tweak |
| [08:48] |
<[g2]> |
but having a special test box where the dog triggered a JTAG device to core dump and post-mortem the box would address a large class of crash problems |
| [08:54] |
<JoeBorn> |
yea we need to invest some effort in that kind of stuff |
| [09:10] |
<vmarks> |
JoeBorn: is there active work being done on ir blaster and epg? |
| [09:13] |
<JoeBorn> |
vmarks, well yes and no. before the china team can actively work on it, they need a definition from "us" (meaning largely me) |
| [09:14] |
<JoeBorn> |
I intend to get to that hopefully next week. ie pick zap2it, etc define how it should look from a UI perspective, etc. |
| [09:18] |
<vmarks> |
JoeBorn: ask for my help on look, and talk to me about zap2it, tvtv, etc. |
| [09:23] |
<JoeBorn> |
anyone on here seen this problem first hand? |
| [09:24] |
<JoeBorn> |
http://forums.neurostechnology.com/smf/index.php?topic=7534.15 |
| [09:24] |
<JoeBorn> |
the random reboot during boot up |
| [09:24] |
<JoeBorn> |
vmarks: I was hoping you'd say that! |
| [09:24] |
<JoeBorn> |
I'd love to get your thoughts on both. |
| [09:50] |
<temmeh> |
Has anyone noticed sound and video unsyncing when playing a video over the network? |
| [09:53] |
<vmarks> |
no. if you pause and resume, does it resync? |
| [10:01] |
<[g2]> |
JoeBorn what's the Rockbox issue with OSD ? |
| [10:02] |
<temmeh> |
i dunno i forgot to try that |
| [10:03] |
<JoeBorn> |
[g2]: well, they won't allow linking to proprietary binaries. |
| [10:04] |
<[g2]> |
JoeBorn proprietary binaries in userland ? |
| [10:06] |
<JoeBorn> |
userland? |
| [10:07] |
<nerochiaro> |
JoeBorn: as opposed to kernel |
| [10:08] |
<JoeBorn> |
oh. well, that's my impression, nerochiaro you may understand better than I. |
| [10:09] |
<JoeBorn> |
ok, bedtime for me, talk to you all later. |
| [10:12] |
<[g2]> |
JoeBorn night |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
hey g4ys |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
doh |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
numlock |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
s/4/a/ |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
d'oh! |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
stupidity that time |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
s/4/u/ |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
there we go |
| [10:15] |
<codebrewery> |
that's better |
| [10:21] |
<vmarks> |
yes, but how do you REALLY feel? |
| [10:21] |
<vmarks> |
;) |
| [10:22] |
<NagyZ> |
ah |
| [10:22] |
<NagyZ> |
nah, back. |
| [10:22] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro have you discovered anything that might shed some light on those buffer errors? |
| [10:23] |
<codebrewery> |
ugh |
| [10:24] |
<codebrewery> |
just watched TV through the OSD |
| [10:24] |
<vmarks> |
tell me about "ugh" |
| [10:24] |
<vmarks> |
in that context. |
| [10:24] |
<codebrewery> |
looks terrible |
| [10:24] |
<codebrewery> |
better than at first |
| [10:24] |
<codebrewery> |
at first i just had a shifted black and white picture |
| [10:24] |
<codebrewery> |
bugzilla sorted that |
| [10:25] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: no, actually i have not tried yet, been stuck with another problem. do you say with osdmain when play the same thing you have no errors ? |
| [10:25] |
<codebrewery> |
but this is unwatchable almost |
| [10:25] |
<vmarks> |
how unwatchable? |
| [10:26] |
<codebrewery> |
i think i've found a related bug |
| [10:27] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro lets see :-) |
| [10:27] |
<codebrewery> |
vmarks, hrm, seemed to get a little better .. but not much |
| [10:27] |
<codebrewery> |
http://bugzilla.neurostechnology.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659 |
| [10:28] |
<nerochiaro> |
vmarks: isn't TV on the osd done simply with a passthrough ? should't it be just the original tv signal ? |
| [10:28] |
<nerochiaro> |
er, that was for codebrewery |
| [10:28] |
<codebrewery> |
nerochiaro, yea, which is why i was confused |
| [10:28] |
<vmarks> |
nerochiaro: that's why I'm asking for elaboration |
| [10:28] |
<codebrewery> |
nerochiaro, but it seems to be a little better now ... i'll try reproduce that |
| [10:30] |
* codebrewery |
tries some recording again |
| [10:30] |
<NagyZ> |
hm |
| [10:30] |
<NagyZ> |
nem |
| [10:30] |
<NagyZ> |
oh |
| [10:30] |
<NagyZ> |
sorry :) |
| [10:30] |
<NagyZ> |
so I dont have that error when played from the osd |
| [10:30] |
<vmarks> |
is there a method for screencapture that you could use to show us 'ugh' ? |
| [10:30] |
<NagyZ> |
nem means "no" in hungarian ;> |
| [10:31] |
<codebrewery> |
hrm, pressing record this time made the picture disappear altogether |
| [10:32] |
<codebrewery> |
oh good |
| [10:32] |
<codebrewery> |
the OSD rebooted |
| [10:32] |
<codebrewery> |
handy |
| [10:32] |
<NagyZ> |
:D |
| [10:33] |
<codebrewery> |
let's try that again, shall we? |
| [10:33] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro so..?:) |
| [10:33] |
<codebrewery> |
ooh, that may be because i tried to record to a r/o NFS mount |
| [10:34] |
<codebrewery> |
poo |
| [10:34] |
<codebrewery> |
rebooted again |
| [10:34] |
<codebrewery> |
irritating! |
| [10:35] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: so we need to find out what is missing from the way we init and start our playback |
| [10:38] |
<codebrewery> |
it's recording this time, woohoo |
| [10:38] |
<codebrewery> |
looks quite poor though, when recording |
| [10:39] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro well yeah |
| [10:39] |
<NagyZ> |
but I've been over osdmain's code |
| [10:40] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: what is that you were playing exactly ? |
| [10:40] |
<codebrewery> |
btw, there really should be some coding standards for a project like this |
| [10:41] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro heroes 1x02 :-) |
| [10:41] |
<NagyZ> |
it's mpeg4 video with mp3 audio |
| [10:41] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: i hear you |
| [10:41] |
<Xorlev> |
codebrewery: So we've all said :) |
| [10:41] |
<codebrewery> |
there isn't even standardised tabbing within the same file(s) |
| [10:41] |
* codebrewery |
sighs |
| [10:42] |
<codebrewery> |
i started hacking through some of the code earlier to get my head around the way it all works, but it's painful to do so |
| [10:42] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: ok, i have something like that i think. I'll see if i do get errors with that too. |
| [10:42] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: why ? |
| [10:42] |
<codebrewery> |
tabbing was all over the place |
| [10:42] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: didn't notice anything that painful |
| [10:42] |
<codebrewery> |
some people using tabs, some people using spaces, and all seeming to use different levels of indentation |
| [10:43] |
<codebrewery> |
i'd be shot if i did that at work :P |
| [10:43] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: true, but i won't call that painful |
| [10:43] |
<Xorlev> |
We should run ncooler through the C-beautifier. |
| [10:44] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro can you try with my code, |
| [10:44] |
<NagyZ> |
? |
| [10:44] |
<NagyZ> |
what I pasted yesterday |
| [10:44] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: yes, i'm doing that |
| [10:44] |
<NagyZ> |
k |
| [10:44] |
<codebrewery> |
nerochiaro, it's painful imo, when i'm reading code i shouldn't have to concentrate just to figure out the code blocks :) |
| [10:45] |
<codebrewery> |
Xorlev, we should decide on a coding standard first, then do that |
| [10:45] |
* codebrewery |
considers starting a wiki page |
| [10:45] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: maybe my brain works differently, but i have no problem with that. anyway you have a point |
| [10:45] |
<codebrewery> |
nerochiaro, it depends on how you have your editor setup |
| [10:46] |
<codebrewery> |
i could probably play with my settings to make it easier to read, but i shouldn't have to do that just to read code :) |
| [10:46] |
<Xorlev> |
Tab per indent, K&R blocks? |
| [10:46] |
<Xorlev> |
What else... |
| [10:46] |
<codebrewery> |
i disagree, tabs for indents are nasty |
| [10:46] |
<codebrewery> |
(this is where the problems arise) |
| [10:46] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: when i try to understand neuros stuff, i rely on a tool called source navigator (from red hat). it rocks. i don't know if it does some trickery with tabs and such, but sure i have no problem reading and browsing around the code with that |
| [10:47] |
<codebrewery> |
someone "in charge" should decide on the coding standards, and people should adhere to them |
| [10:47] |
<nerochiaro> |
tabs are evil |
| [10:47] |
<codebrewery> |
i don't mind the block style too much (though obviously have my preferences), but tabs shouldn't be used, they should be extended to (imo) 2 spaces |
| [10:47] |
<codebrewery> |
at most 4 spaces |
| [10:48] |
<Xorlev> |
I've used tabs for a while, never had problems, but on projects where I need to use spaces I run them through an editor that automatically saves them as x spaces |
| [10:48] |
<codebrewery> |
but as i say, somebody "in charge" should decide on coding standards and convert all the current code to said standards |
| [10:48] |
<codebrewery> |
Xorlev, that's fine, i know people who do the same |
| [10:49] |
<codebrewery> |
i have various vim setups to handle code according to standards |
| [10:49] |
<Xorlev> |
codebrewery: Or we as a collective community can decide and then beat the neuros team until they like it :) |
| [10:49] |
<codebrewery> |
Xorlev, tabs are ok if you're the sole developer, but when you have many developers, each with their own setups, spaces are much easier to work with |
| [10:49] |
<codebrewery> |
Xorlev, yea, that too |
| [10:50] |
* codebrewery |
creates a wiki account |
| [10:52] |
<codebrewery> |
anybody mind if i start Developer_Coding_Standard? |
| [10:52] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: it's a wiki, go ahead |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
as long as you dont write "DO NOT USE tabs for indentation" |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
cause I love tabs |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
;-)) |
| [10:53] |
<codebrewery> |
nerochiaro, yes, just wondered if anybody had a better idea for a name :) |
| [10:53] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: put a C in that maybe |
| [10:53] |
<codebrewery> |
NagyZ, I won't, I'll write "use X spaces for indentation" instead ;) |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
;) |
| [10:53] |
<codebrewery> |
codebrewery, a "C"? where? |
| [10:53] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: what -I dirs do you use for compiling that stuff ? |
| [10:53] |
<nerochiaro> |
codebrewery: C as in C language |
| [10:53] |
<codebrewery> |
oh |
| [10:53] |
<codebrewery> |
heh |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro lets see |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
arm-linux-gcc -O4 -D BUILD_TARGET_ARM -g -Wall -c audiotest.c -I/home/nagyz/OSD/Neuros-Cooler/include/ -I/home/nagyz/OSD/Nano-X/src/include/ -I/home/nagyz/OSD/neuros-bsp/kernels/linux-2.6.15/include/ |
| [10:53] |
<codebrewery> |
Developer_C_Coding_Standard? |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
arm-linux-gcc -O4 audiotest.o -L. -lncooler -lcomnmsc -o audiotest |
| [10:53] |
<NagyZ> |
these two |
| [10:54] |
<Xorlev> |
codebrewery: Sounds good, go for it |
| [10:55] |
<codebrewery> |
ack, i just recorded to mpeg4 and the image constantly jumps up and down ... looks like an integer rounding issue to me |
| [10:56] |
<Xorlev> |
Need a different rounding algorithm then...or do you mean you think they're just casting to integer from float? |
| [10:57] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: ok |
| [10:58] |
<codebrewery> |
Xorlev, looks like it could be that way, or (similar) result of integer maths |
| [10:59] |
<codebrewery> |
anybody have any strong feelings regarding block style and brace positioning? |
| [11:00] |
<nerochiaro> |
"strong feelings" ? i'd reserve these for more important issues ;) |
| [11:01] |
<Xorlev> |
codebrewery: I personally like K&R, but I can go with others. Not really too important. |
| [11:01] |
<codebrewery> |
ok, i'll impose my personal style on everybody then, as a starting point, i'm sure these will be edited afterwards regardless |
| [11:03] |
<NagyZ> |
;) |
| [11:03] |
<NagyZ> |
sure:P |
| [11:04] |
<nerochiaro> |
i damn hate this nfs... one day i can mount stuff and the next it fails. dammit |
| [11:04] |
<NagyZ> |
hm |
| [11:04] |
<NagyZ> |
I hate filebrowser |
| [11:04] |
<NagyZ> |
how the hell does it filter dirs? |
| [11:05] |
<NagyZ> |
why cant I say that I'd like to see everything in /opt/myfiles for example? |
| [11:05] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [11:06] |
<Xorlev> |
nerochiaro: Mounting as version 2? |
| [11:07] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: not explicitly asking for any version. and i am running from nfs mounted root, so it works. i can't just use it anymore from busybox, it gives me permission denied errors. but i didn't change anything in /etc/exports since the other day |
| [11:08] |
<Xorlev> |
Check the server's /var/log/messages ? |
| [11:08] |
<nerochiaro> |
oh, dammit. there was a typo in a directory name. i'm an idiot |
| [11:08] |
<nerochiaro> |
sorry for the noise |
| [11:09] |
<Xorlev> |
We all do it |
| [11:11] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: i have some build error with my plugins, but as soon as i solve that i'm trying your program |
| [11:11] |
<NagyZ> |
k |
| [11:13] |
<codebrewery> |
ok, i've just started recording and the colours are cycling slightly ... faces are going from quite red to orange-y |
| [11:13] |
<codebrewery> |
that's not right |
| [11:13] |
<codebrewery> |
:P |
| [11:15] |
<Xorlev> |
Little is o.o |
| [11:16] |
<nerochiaro> |
the stuff in /usr/local/plugins/ is the closed source stuff, right ? |
| [11:21] |
<Xorlev> |
Think so |
| [11:22] |
<nerochiaro> |
one of these .so gives a "cannot find symbol" error, but i can't find that symbol anywhere in the sources |
| [11:22] |
<nerochiaro> |
at least grep can't |
| [11:26] |
<codebrewery> |
quick knock together, feel free to make changes (hell, it's a wiki) |
| [11:27] |
<codebrewery> |
http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Developer_C_Coding_Standard |
| [11:28] |
* codebrewery |
hears the pub calling |
| [11:28] |
<codebrewery> |
enjoy, bbl |
| [11:29] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: what the hell, i can't seem to get that codec to load, and i have no idea in which library it is trying to look for it |
| [11:30] |
<NagyZ> |
hm? |
| [11:30] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [11:30] |
<NagyZ> |
this is how I do it |
| [11:30] |
<NagyZ> |
run everything as it would run by default, e.g. start osdmain and default rcs |
| [11:30] |
<NagyZ> |
then killall -9 osdmain :) |
| [11:32] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: i killed it by ctrl+c but aside of that all the same |
| [11:32] |
<nerochiaro> |
let me try reboot |
| [11:48] |
<NagyZ> |
so? |
| [11:55] |
<nerochiaro> |
same |
| [11:55] |
<nerochiaro> |
i can't get past that |
| [11:57] |
<nerochiaro> |
anyone knows how to cut a piece of an avi so that i can put it on a media card |
| [11:59] |
<NagyZ> |
mencoder -ss maybe? |
| [11:59] |
<NagyZ> |
or something like that |
| [12:03] |
<Xorlev> |
If watchdog is on, killing osdmain'll reboot the OSD. |
| [12:04] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: yes |
| [12:05] |
<nerochiaro> |
oh great! i removed and reinserted my SD card and the osd seems to have frozen |
| [12:07] |
<NagyZ> |
yep we've encountered that |
| [12:12] |
<nerochiaro> |
sd/mmc src_read timeout waiting for busy card |
| [12:12] |
<nerochiaro> |
now keeps telling me this |
| [12:13] |
<nerochiaro> |
here comes another reboot |
| [12:16] |
<nerochiaro> |
it seems it's incompatible with one of my SD cards |
| [12:16] |
* nerochiaro |
goes to bugzilla |
| [12:21] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: i'm in a bit of a problem. i wanted to try to play the same video from osdmain to see if these codecs gave errors on osdmain too, but i can't play video from nfs since my hub is crap and can't sustain the load. and the osd doesn't seem to like my 128Mb SD card, so i can't play from there either |
| [12:22] |
<nerochiaro> |
only chance i have is trying to plug in via usb and seeing what happens |
| [12:23] |
<NagyZ> |
;[ |
| [12:27] |
<nerochiaro> |
oh, it worked |
| [12:27] |
<nerochiaro> |
this time the card was taken no problem |
| [12:27] |
<nerochiaro> |
god knows why |
| [12:28] |
<nerochiaro> |
ok, osdmain plays it, your program gives that error. i'm in to find what is the difference |
| [12:29] |
<NagyZ> |
:) |
| [12:50] |
<NagyZ> |
anything? ;) |
| [12:51] |
<nerochiaro> |
not yet |
| [13:22] |
<nerochiaro> |
aside of ldd how can i show the dipendencies of a dynamic library ? |
| [13:36] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: still there ? |
| [13:36] |
<NagyZ> |
yep |
| [13:37] |
<nerochiaro> |
i can't try it because these codecs won't work, but try calling NmsSetOutputMode(0); just after NmsStart |
| [13:37] |
<nerochiaro> |
if you don't already do |
| [13:38] |
<NagyZ> |
hm |
| [13:38] |
<NagyZ> |
ok |
| [13:38] |
<NagyZ> |
I'll try |
| [13:38] |
<NagyZ> |
just a sec |
| [13:39] |
<nerochiaro> |
SetFrameBufferVDMode(0) too |
| [13:39] |
<nerochiaro> |
(these are calls to set output to NTSC |
| [13:39] |
<NagyZ> |
uhu |
| [13:39] |
<NagyZ> |
/srv/neuros-osd-rootfs/opt/videotest.c:38: undefined reference to `NmsSetOutputMode' |
| [13:39] |
<NagyZ> |
/srv/neuros-osd-rootfs/opt/videotest.c:39: undefined reference to `SetFrameBufferVDMode' |
| [13:40] |
<NagyZ> |
thats what I get at linking |
| [13:40] |
<nerochiaro> |
it links for me |
| [13:40] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: arm-linux-gcc -I../../Neuros-Cooler/include -I../../Nano-X/src/include -I/home/nagyz/OSD/neuros-bsp/kernels/linux-2.6.15/include/ -lncooler -D BUILD_TARGET_ARM -o nagyz nagyz.c |
| [13:41] |
<nerochiaro> |
oh crap |
| [13:41] |
<nerochiaro> |
i found out what i wasn't linking |
| [13:41] |
<NagyZ> |
:D |
| [13:42] |
<NagyZ> |
are you really including /home/nagyz/OSD...? ;)) |
| [13:42] |
<nerochiaro> |
oh, how did that go there 0 |
| [13:42] |
<nerochiaro> |
= |
| [13:43] |
<nerochiaro> |
anyway, it works for me |
| [13:43] |
<nerochiaro> |
i'm watching a doctor who video right now |
| [13:43] |
<vmarks> |
which one? |
| [13:43] |
<nerochiaro> |
vmarks: season 1 finale (2005 series) |
| [13:43] |
<NagyZ> |
I still get these undefined references... |
| [13:44] |
<NagyZ> |
for both functions |
| [13:44] |
<NagyZ> |
:( |
| [13:45] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: did you build with the command line i gave you (well, equivalent, minus the home nagyz thing of course) |
| [13:45] |
<NagyZ> |
yep |
| [13:45] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: are you running trunk = |
| [13:45] |
<nerochiaro> |
? |
| [13:45] |
<vmarks> |
nerochiaro: I have them all, season 1 and 2 as divx |
| [13:45] |
<nerochiaro> |
vmarks: same here |
| [13:45] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro yep |
| [13:45] |
<nerochiaro> |
vmarks: waiting for season 3 to start up actually |
| [13:46] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: i'm on 3.25 |
| [13:46] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: wait a sec |
| [13:46] |
<NagyZ> |
trunk should be at least as fresh |
| [13:46] |
<NagyZ> |
shouldnt it? |
| [13:47] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: it may have changes, i'm checking the file |
| [13:48] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: it's in there. check Neuros-Cooler/src/nms/client-nms.c |
| [13:48] |
<nerochiaro> |
you should see that function in there |
| [13:49] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [13:49] |
<NagyZ> |
its not there... |
| [13:49] |
<NagyZ> |
I should do an svn up?.. |
| [13:49] |
<NagyZ> |
when did it get therE? |
| [13:49] |
<nerochiaro> |
http://svn.neurostechnology.com/filedetails.php?repname=Neuros-Cooler&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fsrc%2Fnms%2Fclient-nms.c&rev=0&sc=0 |
| [13:49] |
<nerochiaro> |
it's in here. this is the web view of that file in trunk no ? |
| [13:50] |
<NagyZ> |
yep |
| [13:50] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [13:50] |
<NagyZ> |
whats wrong here.. |
| [13:50] |
<NagyZ> |
just a se |
| [13:50] |
<NagyZ> |
c |
| [13:50] |
<nerochiaro> |
something is fishy in your setup, it seems |
| [13:51] |
<NagyZ> |
well if I'm there I might just fix file browser |
| [13:52] |
<NagyZ> |
wish I known how it filter files... |
| [13:52] |
<NagyZ> |
after svn up, 00_build will work again? ;) |
| [13:54] |
<NagyZ> |
ah |
| [13:54] |
<NagyZ> |
I see |
| [13:56] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: i don't advise you to run trunk anyway |
| [13:56] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: neuros folks are known to commit lots of broken code |
| [13:57] |
<NagyZ> |
/home/neuros/OSD/neuros-bsp/toolchain/bin/../lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.6/../../../../arm-linux/sys-include/bits/sigset.h:23: error: syntax error before "typedef" |
| [13:57] |
<NagyZ> |
I see :) |
| [13:57] |
<NagyZ> |
so.. |
| [13:57] |
<NagyZ> |
how can I switch with svn to a tag? |
| [13:59] |
<NagyZ> |
hm? ;) |
| [14:00] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [14:00] |
<NagyZ> |
where did you get your 7z? |
| [14:01] |
<NagyZ> |
http://svn.neurostechnology.com/tarballs/tags/ |
| [14:01] |
<NagyZ> |
I dont see anything new here |
| [14:02] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro?:) |
| [14:04] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: use svn switch, in derobert's guide there's the command. one sec |
| [14:05] |
<NagyZ> |
I just cant figure out the syntax |
| [14:05] |
<nerochiaro> |
for d in linux-r3-* Nano-X neuros-bsp Neuros-Cooler ; \ |
| [14:05] |
<nerochiaro> |
do svn switch svn://svn.neurostechnology.com/svn/$d/tags/<Tag> $d; done |
| [14:06] |
<nerochiaro> |
tag is OSD_VER_3.25-0.23_061102 |
| [14:06] |
<nerochiaro> |
<Tag> i mean |
| [14:06] |
<NagyZ> |
lets see |
| [14:06] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [14:06] |
<nerochiaro> |
after that go in neuros-bsp and remove the whole roots, then do a "make mrproper" |
| [14:06] |
<NagyZ> |
it gives me errors.. |
| [14:07] |
<NagyZ> |
svn: 'svn://svn.neurostechnology.com/svn/linux-r3-drivers/tags/OSD_VER_3.25-0.23_061102' |
| [14:07] |
<NagyZ> |
is not the same repository as |
| [14:07] |
<NagyZ> |
'svn://svn.neurosaudio.com/svn/linux-r3-drivers' |
| [14:07] |
<nerochiaro> |
look at the urls |
| [14:07] |
<nerochiaro> |
make them the same. use both neurosaudio |
| [14:07] |
<NagyZ> |
what do you mean by make it the same? ;) |
| [14:08] |
<NagyZ> |
I only know basic svn.. ;) |
| [14:09] |
<nerochiaro> |
in the svn switch command i gave you, use neurosaudio instead of neurostechnology |
| [14:09] |
<NagyZ> |
ah |
| [14:09] |
<NagyZ> |
I didnt even noticed that! |
| [14:09] |
<nerochiaro> |
that's why i said "look at the urls" |
| [14:10] |
<NagyZ> |
hm |
| [14:10] |
<NagyZ> |
its running |
| [14:10] |
<NagyZ> |
;) |
| [14:10] |
<nerochiaro> |
after that make sure you clean up everything |
| [14:10] |
<Xorlev> |
I have a script I use for switching between tags...I should upload that |
| [14:11] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: i guess it's not much more complex that the 2 liner i pasted above :) |
| [14:11] |
<NagyZ> |
well can I use derobert's clean.sh? ;) |
| [14:11] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: never tried, should work |
| [14:11] |
<Xorlev> |
derobert made a clean.sh? |
| [14:12] |
<NagyZ> |
yep |
| [14:12] |
<NagyZ> |
its in the wiki somewhere |
| [14:12] |
<Xorlev> |
Link? |
| [14:12] |
<NagyZ> |
uh |
| [14:12] |
<NagyZ> |
let me search |
| [14:12] |
<NagyZ> |
http://www.fsckthis.net/projects/osd/clean.sh |
| [14:12] |
<Xorlev> |
That's mine...it doesn't work right |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
oh |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
:-) |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
sorry then |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
whats wrong with it? |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
I just run it ;] |
| [14:13] |
<Xorlev> |
Not only does it remove new files...but the make cleans in some of the directories delete the ingenient modules. |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
ah |
| [14:13] |
<NagyZ> |
;[ |
| [14:14] |
<nerochiaro> |
the one in plugins/av does |
| [14:14] |
<NagyZ> |
what should I do then after removing? :) |
| [14:14] |
<NagyZ> |
I mean after running the script.. |
| [14:14] |
<Xorlev> |
Hmm...I can fix that then |
| [14:14] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: svn up * from the place where all your repos are rooted |
| [14:14] |
<NagyZ> |
but wont that will update to trunk? |
| [14:14] |
<NagyZ> |
or hm |
| [14:14] |
<NagyZ> |
I see no. |
| [14:14] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: doing an svn up from a tag will only update to that tag |
| [14:14] |
<NagyZ> |
right, it restored the .so -s |
| [14:15] |
<nerochiaro> |
since tags never change, it will only restore deleted files |
| [14:15] |
<NagyZ> |
now running build, lets see. |
| [14:17] |
* Xorlev |
fixed scripts |
| [14:17] |
<Xorlev> |
Now uploading it |
| [14:18] |
<NagyZ> |
:-) |
| [14:18] |
<Xorlev> |
Don't think it gets everything though |
| [14:19] |
<nerochiaro> |
you know, instead of worrying of coding standards, tabs, indents and all that, we should pressure the neuros folks to pay attention to that cartload of warnings that their code is producing (without -Wall even) |
| [14:19] |
<NagyZ> |
:) |
| [14:19] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [14:19] |
<NagyZ> |
after we figure out this video thing |
| [14:19] |
<NagyZ> |
I'd like to put a little form over it |
| [14:20] |
<NagyZ> |
at the top, lets say |
| [14:20] |
<Xorlev> |
nerochiaro: The coding standards would help just figuring out where things are. |
| [14:20] |
<NagyZ> |
it would be REALLY REALLY great to play back video WITH subtitles :) |
| [14:21] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: well, i can seem to figure these out well enough with the current formatting mess it seems, but in principle i'm not arguing with having coding standards |
| [14:22] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: let's say we need both things |
| [14:23] |
<Xorlev> |
Hmm...looking at the coding styles page. K&R just seems so much more comprehensible to me than Allman |
| [14:24] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: got a link ? |
| [14:25] |
<Xorlev> |
http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php?title=Developer_C_Coding_Standard |
| [14:26] |
<Xorlev> |
He put it in BSD/Allman brace style |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
ahah |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
something if fucked up |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
if=is |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
if I run 00_build these are the last 3 lines: |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
pushd linux-r3-main-app/build > /dev/null |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
make all |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
neuros@stream:~/OSD$ |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
AHAh |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [14:26] |
<NagyZ> |
whats up now? ;> |
| [14:29] |
<Xorlev> |
Check up above |
| [14:30] |
<NagyZ> |
where did you uploaded it? :) |
| [14:34] |
<Xorlev> |
NagyZ: Which? |
| [14:34] |
<NagyZ> |
the cleaning script |
| [14:34] |
<Xorlev> |
I just replaced the current one you gave a link to. I think that'll fix it |
| [14:35] |
<Xorlev> |
It doesn't touch the linux-r3-plugins/av directory now |
| [14:36] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: i'm not sure there's other things that should not be cleaned, but that sure was necessary |
| [14:36] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: maybe also worth telling the neuros folks about |
| [14:36] |
<NagyZ> |
I dont think that's the only problem |
| [14:36] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: remove neuros-bsp/roots |
| [14:36] |
<NagyZ> |
now running 00_build again |
| [14:36] |
<NagyZ> |
lets see |
| [14:37] |
<Xorlev> |
nerochiaro: Which bit? My script, or their makefile with clean? |
| [14:37] |
<NagyZ> |
roots? |
| [14:37] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: their makefile that cleans files that cannot be regenerated in any way. it should not |
| [14:37] |
<NagyZ> |
you mean rootfs? |
| [14:37] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: of course |
| [14:38] |
<Xorlev> |
nerochiaro: I'll toss in a normal bug under bugzilla |
| [14:38] |
<nerochiaro> |
Xorlev: fine for me, hopefully they are monitoring that |
| [14:38] |
<NagyZ> |
oho |
| [14:38] |
<NagyZ> |
I think I fucked up something:) |
| [14:38] |
<NagyZ> |
Fetching external item into 'neuros-bsp' |
| [14:38] |
<NagyZ> |
svn: Directory 'neuros-bsp/rootfs/.svn' containing working copy admin area is missing |
| [14:38] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [14:39] |
<NagyZ> |
svn revert rootfs helped |
| [14:39] |
<NagyZ> |
;) |
| [14:40] |
<NagyZ> |
ah |
| [14:40] |
<NagyZ> |
its fucked up.. |
| [14:40] |
<NagyZ> |
:( |
| [14:40] |
<NagyZ> |
geeze.. |
| [14:40] |
<NagyZ> |
I guess I'd have to un7zip it again |
| [14:40] |
<NagyZ> |
running rm.. ;> |
| [14:40] |
<Xorlev> |
That's what I ended up doing :P |
| [14:40] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: there's no need |
| [14:41] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: svn should be able to restore everything |
| [14:41] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: unless something in the 7z is not in svn, but that wouldn't make sense |
| [14:42] |
<NagyZ> |
well rm finished.. |
| [14:42] |
<NagyZ> |
:) |
| [14:42] |
<NagyZ> |
they're 15krpm scsi disks at my workplace, so they're not that bad |
| [14:42] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: it's the 7z that's the slow part |
| [14:42] |
<NagyZ> |
svn switch works if I have a 7z image of trunk as of 2 days ago, right? |
| [14:43] |
<Xorlev> |
Should |
| [14:43] |
<nerochiaro> |
NagyZ: works with any image that has svn info in it |
| [14:43] |
<NagyZ> |
great |
| [14:51] |
<NagyZ> |
ok |
| [14:51] |
<NagyZ> |
unpack finished |
| [14:51] |
<NagyZ> |
svn switch is now running |
| [14:52] |
<NagyZ> |
ok |
| [14:52] |
<NagyZ> |
lets modify some code now before building |
| [14:53] |
<NagyZ> |
ok, build is running |
| [14:59] |
<NagyZ> |
is there any docs regarding the framebuffer driver? |
| [15:00] |
<NagyZ> |
real 6m29.298s |
| [15:00] |
<NagyZ> |
takes that much time to build the entire tree :) |
| [15:05] |
<NagyZ> |
booting up... |
| [15:09] |
<NagyZ> |
hmmmm |
| [15:09] |
<NagyZ> |
why does it sais "3.20-0.23"? |
| [15:09] |
<NagyZ> |
;-) |
| [15:09] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro? |
| [15:10] |
<Xorlev> |
Because that's what you have? |
| [15:11] |
<NagyZ> |
no |
| [15:11] |
<NagyZ> |
I've run svn switch |
| [15:14] |
<vmarks> |
may I just interject to say that I hate RCA/thomson? I have a universal remote that was advertised to work and is not. |
| [15:14] |
<vmarks> |
jerks. |
| [15:14] |
<vmarks> |
back to the discussion at hand |
| [15:14] |
<NagyZ> |
:-)) |
| [15:15] |
<vmarks> |
seriously, I had the tv and cable and osd working last night. tried to add dvd and it botched it all. now can't get cable working again. |
| [15:15] |
<vmarks> |
it's enough to make me buy the logitech at 4x the price. |
| [15:16] |
<NagyZ> |
Xorlev I've run this: for d in linux-r3-* Nano-X neuros-bsp Neuros-Cooler ; do svn switch svn://svn.neurosaudio.com/svn/$d/tags/OSD_VER_3.25-0.23_061102 $d; done |
| [15:16] |
<NagyZ> |
before even starting any compilation |
| [15:31] |
<vmarks> |
well, I'm off to return the RCA junk. here comes spending 4x for the logitech. |
| [15:32] |
<vmarks> |
and if that doesn't work I'll be borrowing a sharp implement from someone. |
| [15:32] |
<vmarks> |
consumer electronic products should be designed to require minimal consumer pain. |
| [15:35] |
<Xorlev> |
Agreed. |
| [15:35] |
<NagyZ> |
:) |
| [15:36] |
<Xorlev> |
Hmm...I wonder when the best time to upgrade Drupal would be... |
| [15:40] |
<NagyZ> |
Xorlev how could I create a simple window on top of a video? :) |
| [15:40] |
<Xorlev> |
To be honest, I'm not too sure. I havem |
| [15:41] |
<Xorlev> |
haven't done much with the GUI yet. |
| [15:41] |
<vmarks> |
Xorlev: never. make sure all modules and plug-ins are updated as well, make sure that database is backed up, and that you have a backup copy of the current drupal install running. Then be very very careful. |
| [15:41] |
<vmarks> |
and then tell me to cover my eyes and hold on. |
| [15:41] |
<NagyZ> |
Xorlev and any ideas about this version confusion?... |
| [15:41] |
<vmarks> |
and think of England. |
| [15:41] |
<NagyZ> |
which files stores the version of the software? |
| [15:42] |
<Xorlev> |
Of course...I've done many upgrades of software. But I'm thinking of what's the most off-peak time. |
| [15:43] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [15:43] |
<NagyZ> |
nerochiaro still here? |
| [15:44] |
<Xorlev> |
What I'll end up doing is making a copy of the current drupal directory and running a hotbackup on the database, then running the backup in a test environment. Should all go well, apply it to the current install. |
| [15:44] |
<NagyZ> |
nah whats this |
| [15:44] |
<NagyZ> |
./videotest: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/plugins/libavinmsi.so: undefined symbol: is_osd_codec |
| [15:44] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [15:45] |
<Xorlev> |
Sounds like the codec is missing a declaration. I think they were talking about this earlier |
| [15:45] |
<NagyZ> |
well it's the latest tag (not trunk..) |
| [15:46] |
<NagyZ> |
what should I do now? and why does osdmain gives a different version number?.. |
| [15:46] |
<vmarks> |
Xorlev: sounds like a good plan re: drupal. I know I've had to restore from backup on previous adventures. |
| [15:47] |
<Xorlev> |
vmarks: I'm a webhost...this is the sort of stuff I have to deal with all the time...just offered to help netadmin OdNT the other day...and wtf at PHP 5.0, 5.0 sucks...*upgrades it too* |
| [15:53] |
<NagyZ> |
Xorlev hmm |
| [15:53] |
<NagyZ> |
but it works if I use osdmain to play videos back |
| [15:53] |
<NagyZ> |
how different can my code be? |
| [15:56] |
<Xorlev> |
Check osdmain's code? |
| [16:00] |
<Hostile> |
can someone tell me why during video playback on the OSD, the little orange bars and thing comes up randomly |
| [16:00] |
<Hostile> |
the thing that comes up when you press pause, or play |
| [16:01] |
<NagyZ> |
Xorlev I'm using the same code... |
| [16:06] |
<NagyZ> |
hm anybody? :] |
| [16:06] |
<NagyZ> |
where does it stores the version? |
| [16:12] |
<NagyZ> |
where the fuck is the version string, maan.. |
| [16:13] |
<NagyZ> |
wwwwweeeeeeeeel everybody is sleeeping? |
| [16:13] |
<NagyZ> |
:( |
| [16:13] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm searching thru osdmain's source |
| [16:28] |
<Xorlev> |
NagyZ: I'm betting it's elsewhere |
| [16:29] |
<NagyZ> |
:-) |
| [16:29] |
<NagyZ> |
I mean to extract which files does it access |
| [16:30] |
<NagyZ> |
'cause I'm sure I'm running the latest tag |
| [16:30] |
<NagyZ> |
but it sais I'm not. |
| [17:10] |
<TEMM> |
yea i cant get the sound to sync back up when playing over nfs |
| [17:10] |
<TEMM> |
is there any buffering performed? |
| [17:14] |
<fireether> |
is there already a guide to booting the OSD from a CF? I could do that and write a guide for that. |
| [17:15] |
<Xorlev> |
I don't think there is. |
| [17:15] |
<fireether> |
I have a CF 6GB microdrive so I don't mind doing stuff from that instead of over nfs for now. |
| [17:15] |
<fireether> |
hmm |
| [17:19] |
<fireether> |
xorlev: still having difficulties with scratchbox? |
| [17:20] |
<Xorlev> |
fireether: Which ones? Getting it running outside of Debian or getting the toolchain running correctly? |
| [17:21] |
<fireether> |
xorlev: both. i could tell you how to get it working immediately.. i tend to download the tarballs, extract them to root and then setup the environment through the run_me_first.sh then it works for me. |
| [17:21] |
<Xorlev> |
fireether: Did that, but ended up getting a lot of permission problems. But that doesn't matter because I've been using my laptop mainly lately. |
| [17:22] |
<fireether> |
xorlev: gotcha. :) |
| [17:23] |
<Xorlev> |
The toolchain did mostly everything okay for the setup process, but then when I installed it, the symlinks between gcc and the real gcc didn't work and had some permission problems |
| [17:24] |
<fireether> |
ive had that problem with some of the older ones, but not the tar balls because you're using the gcc in the tarball instead of real gcc. |
| [17:24] |
<vmarks> |
back. apparently need to reboot to setup a remote control. BLAH to consumer electronics companies. |
| [17:25] |
<fireether> |
going to start on doing the cf. just build ncurses so i could build procps - to see how much memory each process uses and so forth. |
| [17:36] |
<crweb> |
anyone here tried working with the samba stuff yet? |
| [17:36] |
<NagyZ> |
its not that hard |
| [17:36] |
<NagyZ> |
just include smbfs support |
| [17:36] |
<NagyZ> |
in the kernel |
| [17:36] |
<crweb> |
yeah i know. Need to hear about bugs and problems |
| [17:36] |
<NagyZ> |
what do you mean by that? |
| [17:37] |
<NagyZ> |
its a kernel thing |
| [17:37] |
<NagyZ> |
what issues? ;> |
| [17:37] |
<crweb> |
with the osd, and the utilities |
| [17:37] |
<crweb> |
smbfs only allows you to mount |
| [17:37] |
<crweb> |
usage, and other problems related to the osd aren't going to come up until people try to use it |
| [17:37] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [17:37] |
<NagyZ> |
I've watched movies over nfs |
| [17:37] |
<fireether> |
ive watched movies over smbfs. |
| [17:38] |
<Xorlev> |
NagyZ: No, it's not hard, until you have limited space requirements. |
| [17:38] |
<NagyZ> |
explain |
| [17:38] |
<NagyZ> |
:) |
| [17:38] |
<crweb> |
fireether: we don't count in my question "any one tried it yet" ;) |
| [17:38] |
<crweb> |
considering we did it |
| [17:38] |
<fireether> |
yup. |
| [17:39] |
<fireether> |
right now im working on booting from CF and setting up an environment in CF to test out stuff. |
| [17:39] |
<fireether> |
will document it. |
| [17:39] |
<crweb> |
i've still got limited luck with fuse |
| [17:39] |
<Xorlev> |
We're putting Samba on the flash. The flash memory is small, and putting smbfs in the kernel adds a lot of space if I recall |
| [17:39] |
<NagyZ> |
well just a bit |
| [17:39] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: just a bit is about 25% of the flash |
| [17:39] |
<Xorlev> |
2mb |
| [17:39] |
<NagyZ> |
;>> |
| [17:39] |
<crweb> |
for the whole deal |
| [17:39] |
<Xorlev> |
You have to think in embedded terms |
| [17:39] |
<crweb> |
smbfs isn't all you need |
| [17:40] |
<crweb> |
you need the tools that mount, the language/character packs |
| [17:40] |
<crweb> |
then if you want to browse you need smbclient, or software that links to libsmbclient.so, both which add another 2M |
| [17:40] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: you can read about it in the mailing list |
| [17:40] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: or on open.neurostechnology.com |
| [17:41] |
<fireether> |
gotta love it when tftpd stops and you don't know till u try to boot. |
| [17:42] |
<NagyZ> |
my main problem is that I still didnt figured out a, why doesnt my video player code works, as its like a verbatim copy of osdmain's video player |
| [17:42] |
<NagyZ> |
and b, how the hell can I show a form on the movie |
| [17:42] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: how are you stopping osdmain from starting? |
| [17:42] |
<NagyZ> |
didnt |
| [17:42] |
<NagyZ> |
killall -9 osdmain |
| [17:43] |
<crweb> |
try moding /etc/init.d/rcS last line to 3 instead of 5 |
| [17:43] |
<crweb> |
maybe osdmain is leaving leftovers |
| [17:43] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [17:43] |
<NagyZ> |
I'll try |
| [17:43] |
<NagyZ> |
and what about versioning? |
| [17:43] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm sure I'm using the latest _tag_ |
| [17:43] |
<NagyZ> |
but it's sais an older version |
| [17:43] |
<crweb> |
its just a parameter |
| [17:44] |
<Hostile> |
crweb: are you the samba guy? |
| [17:44] |
<crweb> |
Hostile: kinda sorta.. or fireether |
| [17:44] |
<Hostile> |
crweb: is there anyway for me to use samba without netbooting my OSD? |
| [17:44] |
<crweb> |
Hostile: not quite yet. |
| [17:44] |
<Hostile> |
alright, thought so |
| [17:44] |
<crweb> |
I suppose i could build a ipk |
| [17:45] |
<Hostile> |
Im just thinking that samba might be more stable than nfs? |
| [17:45] |
<crweb> |
depends on what you mean by stable |
| [17:45] |
<crweb> |
what is your nfs issue? |
| [17:46] |
<Hostile> |
video playback crashes occasionally, it seems to be NFS because on USB it doesn't crash as often |
| [17:46] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [17:46] |
<NagyZ> |
it does not work with usb for me |
| [17:46] |
<NagyZ> |
it's waaaaaaay tooooo slow |
| [17:46] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: i can play for usb |
| [17:46] |
<Hostile> |
what kind of USB device? |
| [17:46] |
<NagyZ> |
usb harddrive |
| [17:46] |
<Hostile> |
thats why. |
| [17:46] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: does your usb harddrive have a AC adaptor? |
| [17:46] |
<NagyZ> |
usb2 should have been put in the design... |
| [17:47] |
<NagyZ> |
crweb yep |
| [17:47] |
<NagyZ> |
it's a standard 7200 rpm samsung drive |
| [17:47] |
<NagyZ> |
in an usb rack |
| [17:47] |
<crweb> |
your problem is that its a hdd, it plays fine from my flash |
| [17:47] |
<crweb> |
i don't have any usb drives that have AC though |
| [17:47] |
<Hostile> |
yeah my iPod is too slow too. |
| [17:47] |
<NagyZ> |
my problem is that usb is way too slow. |
| [17:47] |
<NagyZ> |
it's usb1.1 |
| [17:47] |
<NagyZ> |
not usb2 |
| [17:48] |
<NagyZ> |
but it's like almost 2007... |
| [17:48] |
<NagyZ> |
geeze |
| [17:48] |
<crweb> |
you can play video fine from 12mb/s |
| [17:48] |
<Hostile> |
Yeah seriously. |
| [17:48] |
<fireether> |
for me, ive played video over samba before, and it only takes maybe 3-4MB/sec network bandwidth. |
| [17:48] |
<Hostile> |
its your hdd, not USB |
| [17:48] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [17:48] |
<fireether> |
and this is on a 100mbps net. |
| [17:48] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: has nothing to do with usb1.1 vrs 2 |
| [17:48] |
<NagyZ> |
thats iteresting still |
| [17:48] |
<NagyZ> |
because it works fine with my desktop |
| [17:48] |
<NagyZ> |
using the same hdd :) |
| [17:49] |
<NagyZ> |
now I've edited rcS |
| [17:49] |
<crweb> |
so? different system |
| [17:49] |
<NagyZ> |
crweb have you checked the code I've mailed to you? |
| [17:49] |
<crweb> |
i haven't yet no |
| [17:49] |
<crweb> |
just got done fixing the major boot crash |
| [17:49] |
<NagyZ> |
it's worked with trunk yet it does not work with latest tag |
| [17:49] |
<NagyZ> |
and all I get is a funny error |
| [17:49] |
<NagyZ> |
let me try to run it after it booted up |
| [17:49] |
<NagyZ> |
just a sec |
| [17:50] |
<NagyZ> |
it's = it ;> |
| [17:50] |
<NagyZ> |
I mean it did work yesterday |
| [17:50] |
<NagyZ> |
nah |
| [17:50] |
<NagyZ> |
./videotest: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/plugins/libavinmsi.so: undefined symbol: is_osd_codec |
| [17:50] |
<NagyZ> |
this is what I get |
| [17:50] |
<crweb> |
there, confirmed. my 3 usb flash sticks work fine. my one hdd does not. |
| [17:51] |
<crweb> |
i forgot one of my firewire drives is a usb/firewire |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
:-) |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
interesting |
| [17:51] |
<crweb> |
so, its not 1.1 |
| [17:51] |
<crweb> |
vrs 2.0 |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
ok |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
and what about this undefined symbol thingy? |
| [17:51] |
<crweb> |
probably has something to do with the usb-storage |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [17:51] |
<crweb> |
i have no idea bout that. |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
theres no usb involved this time |
| [17:51] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm trying to play a movie from nfs |
| [17:52] |
<crweb> |
i was still refering to the usb problem |
| [17:52] |
<crweb> |
obviously ;) |
| [17:52] |
<NagyZ> |
where's the current version stored? |
| [17:52] |
<NagyZ> |
and why the hell does osdmain sais it's an older one? |
| [17:52] |
<NagyZ> |
;( |
| [17:52] |
<crweb> |
because nobody changed the text file that says "version" in it? |
| [17:52] |
<NagyZ> |
wel |
| [17:52] |
<NagyZ> |
l |
| [17:52] |
<NagyZ> |
would that be that simple? |
| [17:53] |
<crweb> |
for why it says an older version #?.. umm.. yes |
| [17:53] |
<crweb> |
you can make it say whatever you want |
| [17:53] |
<NagyZ> |
.y |
| [17:53] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [17:53] |
<crweb> |
as far as your undefined symbol.. |
| [17:53] |
<NagyZ> |
great. |
| [17:54] |
<NagyZ> |
well somebody mentioned earlier that it's something already reported?.. |
| [17:54] |
<NagyZ> |
its fucking puzzling, because osdmain CAN play that movie |
| [17:54] |
<crweb> |
then i guess it'll be fixed soon.. |
| [17:54] |
<Xorlev> |
Unfortunately, we can't fix it. |
| [17:54] |
<NagyZ> |
and I dont see why mine app gets this error |
| [17:54] |
<NagyZ> |
Xorlev what do you mean? yesterday it worked, today it's not? :-) |
| [17:54] |
<Xorlev> |
Perhaps you forgot a header somewhere. |
| [17:54] |
<NagyZ> |
and yesterday I was running trunk.. |
| [17:55] |
<crweb> |
it probably wouldn't compile if he forgot a header |
| [17:55] |
<Xorlev> |
Then it's been fixed since |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
interesting |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
so that would mean that latest tag is buggy |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [17:55] |
<crweb> |
you still stuck on that whole "a tag is stable' thing? |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
ah then I'll upgrade.. again.. |
| [17:55] |
<crweb> |
its just a tag.. |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
ah |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [17:55] |
<crweb> |
a tag is just a snapshot |
| [17:55] |
<crweb> |
so we all have the same base |
| [17:55] |
<NagyZ> |
at a given time, I know |
| [17:56] |
<Xorlev> |
A lot of tags don't build at all :P |
| [17:56] |
<crweb> |
and 3.20-20 was murdering nfs mounts |
| [17:56] |
<crweb> |
everybody remember that... heh |
| [17:56] |
* NagyZ |
is going to build trunk now |
| [17:56] |
<Xorlev> |
Yalp |
| [17:56] |
<NagyZ> |
it it builds |
| [17:57] |
* Xorlev |
takes over hardly used subdomain for testing drupal upgrade |
| [17:57] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: make sure you clean everything up correctly |
| [17:57] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm un7zipping it again |
| [17:57] |
<NagyZ> |
;) |
| [17:57] |
<crweb> |
good |
| [17:57] |
<crweb> |
I've yet to successfuly clean.. heh |
| [17:58] |
<crweb> |
been working with the OSD for a long time |
| [17:58] |
<NagyZ> |
:-) |
| [17:58] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm a newbie but I like it |
| [17:59] |
<crweb> |
i just got it for the arm cpu |
| [17:59] |
<crweb> |
then i got sucked in |
| [17:59] |
<Xorlev> |
crweb: Same here :) |
| [17:59] |
<Xorlev> |
I'd been looking for a nice ARM development board for a while...then I saw this in a ThinkGeek email and immediately got it. |
| [18:00] |
<Xorlev> |
Just what I had been looking for |
| [18:00] |
<NagyZ> |
we've been looking for something small that can play back mpeg4 files |
| [18:00] |
<crweb> |
yeah same. it was cheaper, AND had multimedia functions |
| [18:00] |
<NagyZ> |
and maybe has some layer-level functionality.. |
| [18:00] |
<NagyZ> |
.;) |
| [18:00] |
<crweb> |
NagyZ: walmart has those $30 divx/mpeg4 players |
| [18:00] |
<Xorlev> |
That's what I loved, all the multimedia stuff. |
| [18:00] |
<NagyZ> |
yeah they cant be programmed |
| [18:00] |
<NagyZ> |
we have our own software |
| [18:00] |
<crweb> |
ah, i see |
| [18:00] |
<NagyZ> |
but if my boss sees an opportunity in the osd |
| [18:01] |
<NagyZ> |
I'll have to port over the application |
| [18:01] |
<NagyZ> |
;]] |
| [18:01] |
<crweb> |
some of us are talking about whipping up an alternative to osdmain |
| [18:01] |
* NagyZ |
still wonders if the osd can run it properly |
| [18:01] |
<fireether> |
yeah. i'd help with that. |
| [18:01] |
<Xorlev> |
Same |
| [18:01] |
<fireether> |
osdmain - evil in some ways |
| [18:01] |
<NagyZ> |
same here |
| [18:01] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [18:01] |
<fireether> |
kidding. :) |
| [18:01] |
<crweb> |
actually it is |
| [18:01] |
<crweb> |
the devs have this overwhelming urge to run init scripts from osdmain |
| [18:02] |
<crweb> |
that should be in the actual OS |
| [18:02] |
<fireether> |
ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x58, count=263 |
| [18:02] |
<fireether> |
-.- |
| [18:02] |
<fireether> |
yeah. |
| [18:02] |
<NagyZ> |
running svn up to get trunk.. |
| [18:02] |
<crweb> |
i wrote the init system because they were doing tons of crap from osdmain.. and if you booted without osdmain, it was practically not usable |
| [18:03] |
<Xorlev> |
crweb: I hate that. I can see possibly calling init scripts for various things as long as it's all usable without osdmain, like if you wanted to enable sshd or something you could do that from settings and it'd chmod sshd and call /etc/init.d/sshd start, but not relying on it. |
| [18:04] |
<Xorlev> |
One-time things |
| [18:04] |
<crweb> |
osdmain should only edit config files, and MAYBE restart a process |
| [18:05] |
<crweb> |
it shouldn't do any init |
| [18:05] |
<crweb> |
if it wants to modify the running system, and restart something, thats cool |
| [18:06] |
<crweb> |
edit sshd_config, and run /etc/init.d/sshd restart, thats fine |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
beardrop |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
or whats that |
| [18:06] |
<crweb> |
but it shouldn't start sshd on boot. |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
embedded sshd |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
>; |
| [18:06] |
<crweb> |
ssh isn't currently possible |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
why? |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
I have a linksys router running here |
| [18:06] |
<NagyZ> |
with ssh ;> |
| [18:06] |
<crweb> |
linux-embedded kernel disables random |
| [18:07] |
<NagyZ> |
it's dropbear |
| [18:07] |
<crweb> |
yeah, we know |
| [18:07] |
<NagyZ> |
I've just checked the name |
| [18:07] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [18:07] |
<Xorlev> |
NagyZ: We'll be reenabling random ourselves later :P |
| [18:07] |
<crweb> |
i'm actually writing the module |
| [18:07] |
<crweb> |
total pain |
| [18:08] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [18:08] |
<Xorlev> |
I had dropbear running, but it wasn't very cryptographically secure. |
| [18:08] |
<NagyZ> |
you know what disappointed me like totally? |
| [18:08] |
<Xorlev> |
What? |
| [18:08] |
<crweb> |
the fact there is no /dev/dsp, and the only way to access any of the mm hardware is through the libs? |
| [18:08] |
<NagyZ> |
that even if I wanted to I cant write an application that could play back streamed media, like h264/mpeg4 over rtp |
| [18:08] |
<NagyZ> |
;( |
| [18:08] |
<NagyZ> |
but I'd love that |
| [18:08] |
<crweb> |
and you can't do that because? |
| [18:09] |
<may1937> |
NagyZ: sure you could |
| [18:09] |
<NagyZ> |
I thought about writing a wrapper, you know.. grab the packets from the network, reformat them and put that in a fifo |
| [18:09] |
<NagyZ> |
well somebody said (wasnt it you, may1937?) that I cant use the dsp if I want to do this |
| [18:09] |
<NagyZ> |
and without the dsp mpeg4 decoding is a dead thing on this |
| [18:09] |
<crweb> |
you can't use the dsp without using the api |
| [18:09] |
<may1937> |
NagyZ: you can't use it directly, but you could implement the network side, and then hand the data off to the nms plugin layer |
| [18:09] |
<Xorlev> |
Just use the neuros API |
| [18:09] |
<NagyZ> |
and I cant see how could I use the api to do playback of streamed media |
| [18:10] |
<NagyZ> |
nmsplay only required a filename.. |
| [18:10] |
<NagyZ> |
requires, nah |
| [18:10] |
<crweb> |
then.. don't use nmsplay? |
| [18:10] |
<NagyZ> |
I thought I must.. |
| [18:10] |
<NagyZ> |
what else then? |
| [18:10] |
<crweb> |
there is more with the full api... right? |
| [18:10] |
<NagyZ> |
course |
| [18:10] |
<NagyZ> |
just couldnt finy any docs on that :) |
| [18:10] |
<may1937> |
NagyZ: don't use the client interface, use the output plugins |
| [18:11] |
<may1937> |
there is no documentation... |
| [18:11] |
<NagyZ> |
and where can I find info? |
| [18:11] |
<NagyZ> |
ah ;[ |
| [18:11] |
<may1937> |
look at my libao patch for a starting point |
| [18:11] |
<NagyZ> |
where can I find that? |
| [18:11] |
<may1937> |
also look at the code to the nms server |
| [18:11] |
<may1937> |
err i guess just nm server heheh |
| [18:12] |
<may1937> |
NagyZ: https://svn.neurostechnology.com/hackers/adam/trunk/src/ao/ao-svn-nms-r1.patch |
| [18:12] |
<NagyZ> |
which of you guys are actually working for neuros?:) |
| [18:12] |
<may1937> |
no one here |
| [18:12] |
<NagyZ> |
:- |
| [18:12] |
<NagyZ> |
) |
| [18:12] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [18:13] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm looking at your code |
| [18:13] |
<NagyZ> |
so basically I want to use neuros media server.. |
| [18:13] |
<NagyZ> |
and pass data to that, which will use the right kernel mechanisms? |
| [18:13] |
<may1937> |
no, you don't want to use the server at all |
| [18:14] |
<NagyZ> |
oh |
| [18:14] |
<NagyZ> |
well |
| [18:14] |
<may1937> |
just the output plugins |
| [18:14] |
<NagyZ> |
it's in your patch like "+ "Outputs audio to the Neuros Media Server Output Plugin"," |
| [18:14] |
<NagyZ> |
oh. |
| [18:15] |
<NagyZ> |
well I'll try that but first I have to finish a paper in 9 days |
| [18:15] |
<may1937> |
good luck filling in the media_desc_t though, it looked way more complicated than just audio |
| [18:15] |
<NagyZ> |
it's about "Quality measurements of Voice over IP" ;> |
| [18:15] |
<Xorlev> |
o.o |
| [18:15] |
<Xorlev> |
Have fun with that. |
| [18:16] |
<NagyZ> |
;[] |
| [18:16] |
<may1937> |
see the situation is not as bleak as it seems, but it's certainly not at all standard |
| [18:16] |
<NagyZ> |
with the paper of with rtp? :) |
| [18:17] |
<NagyZ> |
we're doing that research for a telecommunication company here in hungary |
| [18:17] |
<may1937> |
i'm glad i walked in when i did to set you straight, i don't read the logs anymore |
| [18:18] |
<NagyZ> |
:-) |
| [18:18] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm glad too |
| [18:18] |
<NagyZ> |
I'll be at my other workplace at monday |
| [18:18] |
<NagyZ> |
and I'll spend the day probably hacking the osd |
| [18:18] |
<NagyZ> |
it's goot to be getting payed for this kinda stuff -) |
| [18:19] |
<may1937> |
paid to hack on the osd?? |
| [18:19] |
<NagyZ> |
yep |
| [18:19] |
<Xorlev> |
Gah, bloody drupal. Why does it have to add <base href> and make everything look funny? |
| [18:19] |
<may1937> |
from neuros? |
| [18:19] |
<NagyZ> |
no |
| [18:19] |
<NagyZ> |
we're evaluating neuros as a replacement.. I've written a multimedia software for PC's |
| [18:19] |
<NagyZ> |
but as we're having more than a thousand endpoints all over the country, |
| [18:20] |
<NagyZ> |
it's a bit expensive to buy a pc for every plazma |
| [18:20] |
<NagyZ> |
I mean plasma tvs :) |
| [18:20] |
<NagyZ> |
I've spent the last two years hacking a remote-controller global advertisement system |
| [18:20] |
<NagyZ> |
remote-controlled, nah. |
| [18:20] |
<NagyZ> |
from satellite |
| [18:20] |
<NagyZ> |
it's been fun |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
Linux version 2.6.15 (root@stream) (gcc version 3.4.6) #1 PREEMPT Sun Nov 5 01:07:01 CET 2006 |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
it's booting with the kernel from the trunk |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
loading modules.. so far so good |
| [18:21] |
<Xorlev> |
*OSD spontaneously combusts* |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
:DD |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
wow |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
that would be something really cool |
| [18:21] |
<NagyZ> |
>; |
| [18:24] |
<Xorlev> |
I hate manipulating MySQL permissions from the mysql shell :( |
| [18:24] |
<NagyZ> |
:) |
| [18:25] |
<Xorlev> |
It's pure evil I tell you. |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
I kno |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
w |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
;> |
| [18:25] |
<Xorlev> |
Even after doing it for years >_> |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
hehe |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
the same code works again |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
with trunk |
| [18:25] |
<NagyZ> |
interesting |
| [18:26] |
<NagyZ> |
IOSD(KM): iosd_set_video_display: window:0, dimensions:320x256 |
| [18:26] |
<NagyZ> |
IOSD(KM): set_video_position: win:0, left:200, top:56, right:519, bottom:183 |
| [18:26] |
<NagyZ> |
iqueue_nget_entry:453> IQUEUE(KM) Using Old IQueue NGet Entry. |
| [18:26] |
<Xorlev> |
Then it'll more than likely work with the next tag too. |
| [18:26] |
<NagyZ> |
how the fuck can I set the vid's position myself? |
| [18:26] |
<fireether> |
got the OSD to boot from CF. |
| [18:27] |
<NagyZ> |
ah it's 1:30am |
| [18:27] |
<NagyZ> |
I should sleep |
| [18:29] |
<hwboy4> |
Has anyone been able to netboot trunk and have osdmain successfully start? I'm getting a segfault right after it opens /usr/local/plugins/i18n/libspai18n.so |
| [18:29] |
<fireether> |
its made to segfault on purpose. |
| [18:29] |
<fireether> |
maybe im wrong. :-p |
| [18:30] |
<NagyZ> |
hwboy4 well |
| [18:30] |
<NagyZ> |
mv /usr/local/plugins/i18n /usr/local/ |
| [18:30] |
<NagyZ> |
and it'll be okay |
| [18:31] |
<NagyZ> |
hmm |
| [18:31] |
<NagyZ> |
saw3 preview wmv gaps |
| [18:31] |
<NagyZ> |
;[ |
| [18:32] |
<Xorlev> |
hwboy4: You can disable compiling of that lib also if I recall. |
| [18:33] |
<hwboy4> |
Thanks! Moving the files did the trick. Of course while I was typing this reply the unit rebooted :-( |
| [18:34] |
<NagyZ> |
ok ppl |
| [18:34] |
<NagyZ> |
I'm going to slp now |
| [18:35] |
<NagyZ> |
have a good night |
| [18:35] |
<Xorlev> |
Night |
| [18:35] |
<Xorlev> |
hwboy4: By default if you didn't turn off watchdog with the included patch it'll reboot the OSD without osdmain. |
| [18:37] |
<hwboy4> |
I applied the patch to disable the watchdog. Before that I would see a message indicating that a reboot was occurring due to the watchdog timing out. |
| [18:39] |
<crweb> |
Xorlev: the problem is that it didn't actually compile |
| [18:43] |
<Xorlev> |
Ah |
| [18:43] |
<fireether> |
crweb: what didn't? |
| [18:44] |
<crweb> |
if you go in and actually build the i18n plugin, and copy it over it will work |
| [19:05] |
<fireether> |
crweb: im thinking, why not make a network-based stream viewer that will replace osdmain? execept make it intelligent.. i.e. can connect to it, tell it to accept a stream, and display it. this way the menu can be coded separate from the gui and instead stream to the gui. |
| [19:10] |
<Xorlev> |
There, removed that annoying-as-hell "n/a" node. |
| [19:11] |
<fireether> |
hmm, kernel cant see CF on boot.. |
| [20:49] |
<vmarks> |
hey, does OSD currently support scheduled recordings? |
| [20:49] |
<vmarks> |
once /daily/ weekly/monthly? |
| [20:59] |
<Xorlev> |
It will |
| [20:59] |
<vmarks> |
but not currently. |
| [20:59] |
<vmarks> |
ok. |
| [20:59] |
<Xorlev> |
Not sure, I don't use osdmain much |
| [21:00] |
<vmarks> |
I'm just trying to be accurate in this comparison I'm putting together for myself. |
| [21:04] |
<vmarks> |
thank you. |
| [21:20] |
<fireether> |
hmm.. maybe somebody can answer me on this.. if the ide_generic is loaded as a module, then the OSD detects the CF system.. but if the IDE_GENERIC is compiled into the kernel, and it boots from that kernel, it cant? |
| [21:20] |
<fireether> |
why? :-p |
| [21:20] |
<fireether> |
i don't see any difference in the way it loads it as opposed to when its compiled in, seems to have same options. |
| [21:44] |
<fireether> |
found the problem. uboot initializes the CF, and when it boots kernel, the CF is already "inserted".. so the kernel doesn't look at it until its unplugged and plugged back in. |
| [21:55] |
<Hostile> |
makes sense |
| [21:57] |
<fireether> |
problem is when i boot linux, and its looking for /dev/hda3 - even if i unplug and plug it back in - still wont boot. |
| [21:59] |
<vmarks> |
does osdmain use network for anything currently? |
| [21:59] |
<Hostile> |
vmarks: checking for upgrades, thats all I think |
| [22:01] |
<vmarks> |
thanks |
| [22:01] |
<vmarks> |
just bought the woot.com today to use the cat5 port instead of a wifi dongle eating the usb port. |
| [22:01] |
<Hostile> |
vmarks: what did you buy |
| [22:03] |
<fireether> |
k, I dont think I can boot off from CF and this is because of kernel. I unplugged the CF before I booted the kernel, then plugged it back in before the CF driver loaded. didnt see the drives on it. so i unplugged it and plugged it back in, and it finally noitced it - but too late, it was already searching for root. ended up panic'ing because couldnt mount root. |
| [22:03] |
<fireether> |
so its not uboot. |
| [22:07] |
<fireether> |
hmm, cf driver is initialized with inserted = 0.. |
| [22:07] |
<vmarks> |
Hostile: some logitech boxes that are not 802.11, but you plug one into the ethernet port on OSD and the other into an ethernet port at a router, and it does the wireless link between the two. |
| [22:07] |
<daurnimator> |
yo |
| [22:07] |
<vmarks> |
10mbit, but who cares? |
| [22:07] |
<Hostile> |
vmarks: yeah i was just looking at them, neat |
| [22:07] |
<Hostile> |
cheap. |
| [22:07] |
<fireether> |
vmarks - good news is that they are harder to sniff too :-D |
| [22:07] |
<vmarks> |
cheap, and until OSD grows some USB ports or grows wifi... |
| [22:08] |
<fireether> |
vmarks: theres CF wifi, but its not exactly cheap or everywhere. |
| [22:08] |
<vmarks> |
yeah, but would an OSD out of the box know to use CF wifi? |
| [22:08] |
<vmarks> |
not likely. |
| [22:09] |
<fireether> |
not yet. probably as an option |
| [22:09] |
* vmarks |
likes to look at OSD as a consumer electronics device, not the hacking platform that it is today. |
| [22:11] |
<vmarks> |
that isn't to minimize anyone's work on it. I'm just focused on the other end of things. |
| [22:13] |
<fireether> |
i've been cross compiling stuff like ncurses, mpd, ao, fdisk, procps, etc. once i get the osd able to boot from my cf-hd, i'll be able to work on the gui more easily. :-p |
| [22:13] |
<vmarks> |
:) |
| [22:13] |
<Hostile> |
I have a CF wifi card, I put it in my OSD once, did nothing. |
| [22:14] |
<fireether> |
because osd is setup to have CF drivers at the IDE layer. |
| [22:14] |
<vmarks> |
that's what I thought. |
| [22:14] |
<Hostile> |
yep |
| [22:14] |
<fireether> |
it doesnt use pcmcia and CF is pretty much pin-wise compatible with pcmcia. |
| [22:14] |
<vmarks> |
probably just as well. I expect hostile's the minority in owning a cf wifi adapter. |
| [22:15] |
<fireether> |
im not sure if the cf interface is really pcmcia and could be handled by the pcmcia lib in the kernel. |
| [22:15] |
<Hostile> |
only reason I have one is because my brother uses it for his Sharp Zaurus PDA |
| [22:15] |
<vmarks> |
people bought them for pocket pc and zaurus, and ... |
| [22:15] |
<vmarks> |
ding! |
| [22:15] |
<fireether> |
lol |
| [22:15] |
<Hostile> |
ding ding! |
| [22:15] |
<vmarks> |
but does he still USE the zaurus 5000/5500? |
| [22:15] |
<Hostile> |
occasionaly |
| [22:16] |
<Hostile> |
he has OpenZaurus on it |
| [22:16] |
<Hostile> |
he basically uses it so he can log on AIM with gaim when hes not on the computer |
| [22:16] |
<vmarks> |
wonder if skype mobile would be useful on it... |
| [22:16] |
<Hostile> |
won't work |
| [22:16] |
<vmarks> |
aim, opera, skype mobile... |
| [22:16] |
<Hostile> |
its linux. |
| [22:16] |
<vmarks> |
ahem, there is a skype mobile for linux. |
| [22:16] |
<Hostile> |
is there? |
| [22:16] |
<vmarks> |
that's what sony's using on mylo. |
| [22:17] |
<vmarks> |
they had to get it from somewhere... |
| [22:17] |
<Hostile> |
you can't download it though. |
| [22:18] |
<vmarks> |
hm... |
| [22:22] |
<vmarks> |
oh well. |
| [22:39] |
<daurnimator> |
so |
| [22:39] |
<daurnimator> |
sup people |
| [23:42] |
<daurnimator> |
JoeBorn: ! |
| [23:42] |
<JoeBorn> |
daurnimator, |
| [23:44] |
<daurnimator> |
i got a new computer |
| [23:44] |
<daurnimator> |
just.... i can't get my old hdds to work |
| [23:44] |
<daurnimator> |
so, i have nothing! |
| [23:44] |
<daurnimator> |
none of my work, my programs, games, roms, ANYTHING |
| [23:51] |
<may1937> |
sounds like you have plenty of whining |
| [23:57] |
<daurnimator> |
well foundede though |