| [00:00] | <sourcerror> | on svn there is a tag "OSD_VER_3.27-0.57_070116" but nothing for 0.58, right? why is this? |
| [02:05] | <daurn> | hi |
| [02:05] | <sumasuma> | hi |
| [02:06] | <sourcerror> | hi |
| [02:06] | <sumasuma> | i could not get my divx movies to play correctly, is it still under development ? |
| [02:07] | <daurn> | whats new? |
| [02:09] | <sourcerror> | sumasuma: sorry you should report the details (not sure whether bugzilla or mail list is preferred by Neuros) |
| [02:10] | <sumasuma> | sourcerror: i'm not sure whether i missed anything, I sent an email regarding my mpeg playback using simba, still waiting for response |
| [02:10] | <sumasuma> | sourcerror: I will send one for divx too |
| [02:11] | <crweb> | suma have i not responded several times? |
| [02:12] | <sumasuma> | crweb: regarding the Samba with XP ? |
| [02:12] | <crweb> | yes |
| [02:12] | <sumasuma> | crweb: yes, but not regarding the playback with mpeg delay with Samba |
| [02:13] | <crweb> | that is what we are discussing |
| [02:13] | <crweb> | the delay not on the router, but on the switch |
| [02:14] | <sumasuma> | crweb: on the same switch when I play with media player using the same server serving the files, it works fine |
| [02:14] | <crweb> | that doesnt' mean anything |
| [02:14] | <sumasuma> | It means OSD fails to play like media player while reading the data from the server through samba |
| [02:14] | <crweb> | you're talking about different hardware, software, cables, and ports |
| [02:14] | <crweb> | there are a lot of variables |
| [02:14] | <sumasuma> | I dunno where is the fault. |
| [02:15] | <crweb> | that is what we are discussing |
| [02:15] | <crweb> | you have to find the fault to fix it |
| [02:15] | <sumasuma> | hardware, software, cables, and ports <--- I don't think there is a problem |
| [02:15] | <crweb> | you cant just say "this isn't working" |
| [02:15] | <crweb> | and expect a fix |
| [02:15] | <crweb> | cause, it DOES work for me |
| [02:16] | <sumasuma> | crweb: the problem with samba is discused under two scenerios |
| [02:16] | <sumasuma> | 1. I don't see the share of XP |
| [02:16] | <sumasuma> | 2. Playing of the mpeg file |
| [02:16] | <crweb> | and you aren't going to |
| [02:16] | <crweb> | we are discussing #2 |
| [02:16] | <crweb> | #1 is known, and is being worked on, and exists for everyone |
| [02:16] | <sumasuma> | the discussion in the ML, i'm responding to the #1 |
| [02:16] | <crweb> | #2 is just you |
| [02:17] | <crweb> | on the ML I was troble shooting your #2 |
| [02:17] | <crweb> | there is no fix for #1 |
| [02:17] | <sumasuma> | ok |
| [02:17] | <sumasuma> | Looks like there is a confusion |
| [02:17] | <crweb> | I was asking for people NOT using the osd |
| [02:17] | <sumasuma> | I was responding to #1 |
| [02:18] | <sumasuma> | ok |
| [02:18] | <sumasuma> | Now Media Player, Xine works fine with the same switch for the mpeg video |
| [02:18] | <sumasuma> | I could not get the OSD to work with |
| [02:19] | <crweb> | All of my responses have been about your playing problem |
| [02:19] | <crweb> | the original post was asking for people who have Linux PC's who can see windows XP shares |
| [02:20] | <sumasuma> | I can see XP shares in OSD ! |
| [02:20] | <sumasuma> | with the router that is what I meant there |
| [02:21] | <crweb> | ok.. |
| [02:21] | <crweb> | tomorrow, I will talk with you about that. |
| [02:21] | <sumasuma> | sure |
| [02:21] | <crweb> | I need to look at some things in your config |
| [02:23] | <sumasuma> | once you are free, let me know i will share the info with you |
| [02:24] | <sumasuma> | i could not have a guess regarding the mpeg ! |
| [02:24] | <sourcerror> | crweb: on svn there is a tag "OSD_VER_3.27-0.57_070116" but nothing for 0.58, right? do you know why? |
| [02:25] | <sumasuma> | i can also confirm the other network variables is not affecting it |
| [02:27] | <crweb> | sourcerror: i'm sorry, i don't use tags |
| [02:28] | <nerochiaro> | sourcerror: they probably didn't make a tag from trunk yet when they released it. trunk as of yesterday works. you can use that in the meantime |
| [02:28] | <crweb> | wow, you're up early |
| [02:28] | <sourcerror> | ah. thanks. |
| [02:28] | <nerochiaro> | crweb: not really, it's 9:30 here |
| [02:29] | <crweb> | my clock wrong? |
| [02:29] | <nerochiaro> | i'd say so |
| [02:29] | <crweb> | 2:30 + 6 = 8:30 |
| [02:29] | <nerochiaro> | +7 |
| [02:29] | <crweb> | ah.. |
| [02:30] | <nerochiaro> | crweb: this is handy: tinyurl.com |
| [02:30] | <crweb> | well, its only 4pm in china. So they still have some time to tag |
| [02:30] | <crweb> | 4:30 |
| [02:30] | <nerochiaro> | well, they should actually start tagging before release, IMHO. but still... |
| [02:36] | <daurn> | any news? |
| [02:41] | <nerochiaro> | daurn: new fw is out |
| [02:41] | <daurn> | .57? |
| [13:16] | <Milesy2> | Hi folks. Is there any movement on network shares for xp yet ? |
| [13:24] | <ataylor> | we are INNNNNNNNNN |
| [13:26] | * chreekat claps for ataylor | |
| [13:27] | <crweb> | Milesy2: i've been working on it |
| [13:31] | <Milesy2> | will it work with a standalone NAS device just now ? |
| [13:51] | <Milesy2> | I tried to connect my usb MP3 player to the neuros.. should it not have picked it up? |
| [13:52] | <nerochiaro> | Milesy2: if it's usb mass storage, is should |
| [13:52] | <Milesy2> | it is |
| [13:52] | <Milesy2> | was wanting to us it to upgrade the firmware |
| [13:52] | <Milesy2> | *use |
| [13:52] | <nerochiaro> | do you have media cards ? |
| [13:53] | <Milesy2> | one in my digital camera not sure if it will work though |
| [13:53] | <Milesy2> | olympus xD media card |
| [13:54] | <nerochiaro> | are they proprietary cards or do they work like SD cards ? |
| [13:54] | <nerochiaro> | anyway, with USB you should be able to do the upgrade |
| [13:55] | <nerochiaro> | only from osdmain though, not at boot |
| [13:55] | <Milesy2> | just checked |
| [13:55] | <Milesy2> | doesnt fit |
| [13:55] | <Milesy2> | will try hook my digital camera up directly to it |
| [13:55] | <Milesy2> | through usb |
| [13:55] | <nerochiaro> | should work, but your player should've worked too |
| [13:57] | <Milesy2> | yeah working with the camera |
| [13:57] | <Milesy2> | not with the mo3 player through strang |
| [13:58] | <Milesy2> | packard bell audiodream |
| [13:58] | <Milesy2> | all reports indicate that is *IS* mass storage |
| [14:00] | <nerochiaro> | try telnetting into the OSD, plug in the usb drive then check dmesg |
| [14:00] | <nerochiaro> | it spits in there some messages when i connect usb drives |
| [14:00] | <nerochiaro> | they might help you |
| [14:17] | <Milesy2> | ah cook |
| [14:17] | <Milesy2> | cool |
| [14:17] | <Milesy2> | will try that |
| [14:20] | <Milesy2> | is there a way to manually connect to an IP address for a network share ? |
| [14:20] | <Milesy2> | I have 2 subnets at home |
| [14:20] | <Milesy2> | im not sure if it will detect my win2k machine across to the second subnet |
| [14:31] | <Milesy2> | It wont |
| [14:31] | <Milesy2> | i have set up a windows 2000 share |
| [14:31] | <Milesy2> | and its not being detected |
| [14:31] | <Milesy2> | :( |
| [14:38] | <Milesy2> | any ideas anyone?? :( |
| [14:39] | <Milesy2> | can i mount over telnet |
| [14:42] | <Milesy2> | how do i get into via telnet? |
| [14:51] | <Milesy2> | ok I am in. but I cant get it to mount the drive |
| [14:54] | <srobertson> | Milesy2: what command are you trying? |
| [14:55] | <nerochiaro> | Milesy2: "the drive" is the usb drive you were talking about before ? |
| [14:55] | <Milesy2> | no I am trying to connect to a network share now nerochiaro |
| [14:55] | <Milesy2> | sorry wrong terminology |
| [14:55] | <Milesy2> | > /mnt/tmpfs/media # mount.cifs //192.168.1.4/shared win2k -o user=Chris Miles pass=xxxxxx |
| [14:56] | <nerochiaro> | ah, ok. i'm not very expert with the whole smb stuff yet, so i'll pass on this one |
| [14:58] | <Milesy2> | It wont accept \\192.168.1.4 |
| [14:58] | <Milesy2> | i need to escape both the slashes for it to take that |
| [14:58] | <Milesy2> | i think |
| [14:58] | <Milesy2> | lol |
| [15:22] | <Milesy2> | srobertson: u there? |
| [15:49] | <Milesy2> | is there any real support for this product |
| [15:49] | <Milesy2> | i feel like i have wasted my money |
| [15:49] | <Milesy2> | i know it need a little work.. but it seems to be nothing works |
| [15:49] | <Milesy2> | i managed to mount a network drive, but the AV playback of a movie here is terrible |
| [15:50] | <Milesy2> | image almost looks negative |
| [15:50] | <Milesy2> | colours all off and jumpy |
| [15:50] | <Milesy2> | silouettes |
| [15:51] | <nerochiaro> | can you play a video off of USB ? does it have the same problems ? |
| [15:51] | <Milesy2> | i dont have a means to play from usb |
| [15:51] | <Milesy2> | i have 2 avi files |
| [15:51] | <Milesy2> | one plays fine |
| [15:51] | <Milesy2> | the other is terrible |
| [15:51] | <Milesy2> | but it plays ok on my laptop, and on my hard drive media player |
| [15:52] | <Milesy2> | can the video settings be changed for playback? |
| [15:53] | <nerochiaro> | what is the format of the file that gives problems ? |
| [15:54] | <nerochiaro> | and also, what video settings do you want to change ? |
| [15:54] | <Milesy2> | xvid |
| [15:54] | <Milesy2> | NTSC |
| [15:54] | <Milesy2> | i want to change settings so it "plays" somehow lol |
| [15:58] | <nerochiaro> | if it plays that bad, it just means the codecs don't currently support that format well. the suggestions in this case are: 1) try with more updated firmwares, codec support is improving 2) make a short clip of that movie, then if it still plays crap, attach it to a bug in neuros bugzilla so that the neuros folks can see what's wrong and either support the format better or not play it all in the future |
| [15:58] | <Milesy2> | thanks |
| [15:59] | <nerochiaro> | option 2 is better. include as much details as possible with the bug (firmware version, all the info you can find about the actual codec used to create that video, etc) |
| [16:00] | <Milesy2> | are vob files not suppported yet ? |
| [16:01] | <nerochiaro> | no, they are not |
| [16:01] | <nerochiaro> | at least last i checked |
| [16:01] | <nerochiaro> | several weeks ago |
| [16:01] | <Milesy2> | i renamed to mpg but its very jittery on this |
| [16:02] | <nerochiaro> | i don't think the filename matters, does it = |
| [16:02] | <nerochiaro> | ? |
| [16:02] | <Milesy2> | I think it would have been a much better idea if they used chips for video decoding |
| [16:02] | <Milesy2> | i wouldnt have minded paying a little more |
| [16:02] | <nerochiaro> | it's much less flexible. if something is wrong, you can't update a chip |
| [16:03] | <Milesy2> | i have a cheapo ide hd media player... cost about £30 ($60) |
| [16:03] | <Milesy2> | and its never had a problem playing any kind of file i have thrown at it |
| [16:03] | <nerochiaro> | that only means you have been lucky so far |
| [16:04] | <Milesy2> | hmm |
| [16:04] | <nerochiaro> | and what about supporting more formats in the future ? |
| [16:04] | <nerochiaro> | a non-upgradeable player can't do that |
| [16:04] | <Milesy2> | chips for the basic types though |
| [16:05] | <Milesy2> | I am accessing a window xp network share just now |
| [16:05] | <nerochiaro> | still makes impossible to fix anything wrong with the original chips |
| [16:05] | <Milesy2> | thought it was not working |
| [16:05] | <nerochiaro> | Milesy2: beware that playing through xp share is still being worked on, might be a shakey |
| [16:06] | <nerochiaro> | a bit shakey |
| [16:19] | <Milesy2> | cool :) |
| [16:19] | <Milesy2> | Icya folks |
| [18:40] | <vmarks> | [g2] |
| [18:41] | <[g2]> | vmarks welcome back in country |
| [18:41] | <vmarks> | I'm not in country. |
| [18:41] | <vmarks> | I'm in hong kong. |
| [18:41] | <vmarks> | kowloon. |
| [18:42] | <[g2]> | Ah... I thought you were back :) |
| [18:43] | <vmarks> | leave tomorrow, arrive thurs. |
| [18:43] | <vmarks> | it's tues here. |
| [19:09] | <vmarks> | [g2] what's new in neurosland? |
| [19:12] | <[g2]> | vmarks dunno much, I've been playing with PVR from linux pc land |
| [19:12] | <[g2]> | I'm up to the point of needing programming info |
| [19:13] | <[g2]> | I can capture/edit/burn dvds with either mpeg-2 or dv |
| [19:14] | <Hostile> | ah Joe isn't around :( |