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Is there a new release coming soon? Mine recorded better before I started to mess with PAL resolutions and I am hoping that simply loading a new release will make it behave better.

[14:10]

<anders_>

Anyone here?

[14:11]

Hi

[14:12]

<anders_>

Hi

[14:14]

<anders_>

I don't fully get all the toolkit/xserver/nanox/gtk/qt/whatever discussion. Portability? Are people expected to run unmodified software?

[14:15]

<anders_>

That is written for normal computers with mouse and full keyboard?

[14:16]

well, not unmodified, no

[14:17]

<anders_>

Is it really worthwile having a "real" toolkit then?

[14:19]

depends on what you mean with "real". if you mean "the same we run on desktops", obviously no

[14:20]

but we're also reinvening a lot of wheels, i think

[14:20]

and some of them we may reuse instead

[14:21]

<anders_>

Indeed. But we already have an ncooler-wheel?

[14:21]

yes, and soon we will reinvent the window manager wheel, and after that there's plans to reinvent the wm themeing wheel, and after that the widget skinning wheel

[14:22]

i was just wondering if we couldn't leverage other existing wheels, maybe just hammering a bit to suit our needs better

[14:23]

<anders_>

Yes, I think reusing code would be great.

[14:24]

i don't know if it's pratical or actually feasible. but no way to know without exploring a bit

[14:25]

<anders_>

Right.

[15:28]

<anders_>

Oh, the wm shipped with nano-x works great.

[15:30]

anders_: being trying it ?

[15:32]

<anders_>

I downloaded nanox and compiled on my workstation with x11 backend.

[15:33]

<anders_>

The wm is pretty mouse centric. But the again it is just 1k LOC, and doesn't seem very complicated. So it would proabably be easy to adapt for remote-control use.

[15:33]

anders_: and i manages nano-x apps, right ?

[15:33]

er, it

[15:33]

<anders_>

Yes.

[15:33]

<anders_>

nano-x windows.

[15:34]

<anders_>

people.0x63.nu

[15:36]

looks pretty mousey indeed. the border decorations are the default ones ?

[15:39]

<anders_>

Indeed very mousy.

[15:39]

<anders_>

All default.

[15:39]

<anders_>

I just did some minor adjustments to the code to make it compile.

[15:40]

actually aside for popups, i'm not even sure we need window borders

[15:40]

<anders_>

Agree.

[15:44]

<anders_>

There is also lots of window manipulations we don't need imho. Like moving them around and resizing them..

[15:45]

<anders_>

Just hide/show them basically.

[15:45]

yeah, and position for popups

[15:45]

<anders_>

Or raise/lower rather.

[15:45]

<anders_>

Can't they just be centered over parent window?

[15:45]

that too

[18:03]

<daurn>

hi all

[18:35]

unknown_lamer: I tried out the Meinl Mb20 "Pure Metal" ride cymbal yesterday.. Chris Adler's signature cymbal

[18:35]

mmm purty

[18:35]

<crweb>

im not really here, but hi everyone :)

[18:35]

hehe hi

[18:36]

* crweb is taking an irc break to get things hammered out in life

[18:36]

<crweb>

kde auto logged in i see

[18:37]

<unknown_lamer>

nice

[18:40]

I decided I needed to upgrade cymbals, and it seems like the drummer from every band I like uses Meinl, so it helped me narrow down my selection a bit. :)

[18:41]

<crweb>

I hear good things

[18:42]

crweb: about?

[18:42]

<crweb>

meinl

[18:43]

crweb: ah, thought that's what you meant, just making sure

[18:43]

<crweb>

i think they sound good atleast

[18:44]

<crweb>

my university's studio uses them on the studio set

[18:44]

Every metal drummer I looked at uses either Meinl or Sabian, and like I said, all the drummers I really like use Meinl

[18:44]

<crweb>

i have sabian

[18:45]

<crweb>

not a metal fan though

[18:46]

i got to spend some time in my client's sound room the other day, it was impressive to hear a $350k sound system

[18:46]

and they didn't even have their "good speakers" so i had to settle for the b&w's

[18:47]

heh

[18:49]

one of their main products is a 150lb $100k mono amplifier

[18:49]

yow

[18:50]

yeah, they are absolutely insane

[18:58]

I'm really excited about getting a real metal cymbal set. 5 years of playing drums and I've only had a sabian "stage" starter set the last 3

[18:58]

the first 2 I had a crappy, crappy crash and crappy, crappy hi-hats

[18:59]

are you in a bband?

[18:59]

I was for a little while, until I got kicked out for being too busy with work. :-P

[18:59]

my roommate and I jam

[19:00]

we covered an in flames song. I've just spent those 5 years basically trying to get my feet up to death-metal velocities

[19:00]

almost there

[19:00]

that's chill

[19:01]

I didn't practice much at all the first couple years, either. :-P tiny apartments and all that

[19:01]

there is some decent metal here but not like there was back east

[19:02]

hm, back later, gotta help debug a bad connection

[19:02]

Yeah I'm seeing Lamb of God (from Virginia) a couple weeks from now

completely awesome

heh

ok going

<swoag>

hi, all

[20:05]

<swoag>

I'll just pretend I am talking to someone ;-)

[20:07]

<swoag>

yesterday seemed a good day to me, it was the first time that I played with OSD for about 30 minutes where I didn't experience one single crash.

[20:10]

<daurn>

hi swoag

[20:10]

<daurn>

hi JoeBorn!

[20:10]

<daurn>

is it a meeting or something?

[20:14]

yep, its a meeting

[20:16]

<daurn>

well

[20:16]

<daurn>

i'm home resting

[20:16]

<daurn>

i sprained my ankle on the way to school

[20:17]

<daurn>

swoag: whats new?

[20:19]

I think swoag was just giving us an update.

[20:22]

<swoag>

team is been working on various fixes these days,

[20:23]

<swoag>

with the release we got out yesterday, OSD is stable with Video operations

[20:23]

<swoag>

XP searching algorithm has been fixed.

[20:24]

<swoag>

*XP Samba share

[20:24]

<swoag>

scheduled recording logic has been fixed.

[20:25]

<swoag>

we also fixed some recording issues when hitting the boundary condition, such as disk full, file system limit etc.

[20:27]

<swoag>

GUI is still in the process of being cleaned up.

[20:28]

<swoag>

not many fancy things at this point, but OSD is marching forward.

[20:29]

<swoag>

any update from community?

[20:29]

<swoag>

seems not many people around today...

[20:31]

crweb hows everything with you?

[20:31]

you've been hacking up a storm lately

[20:33]

<crweb>

doing good

[20:33]

<crweb>

taking a mini break to catch up in calc2

[20:33]

makes sense.

[20:36]

<daurn>

swoag: no one around :P

[20:38]

<swoag>

daurn: well, you are the one. ;-)

[20:38]

<daurn>

only cause i hurt myself

[20:39]

<daurn>

may1937: you here?

[20:41]

<swoag>

I guess everyone is very excited about and being busy preparing for --- the Chinese New Year

[20:42]

<daurn>

when is that?

[20:42]

<daurn>

usually go have yumcha

[20:44]

<swoag>

8 days from today.

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<daurn>

17th?

[20:46]

<swoag>

yep.

[20:47]

<daurn>

ncie

[20:47]

<daurn>

what do you do for it?

[20:47]

<daurn>

here, you just get to watch a dragon train thing of people dance to drums and pretend to eat lettuces full of money

[20:47]

<daurn>

and thousands of firecrackers

[20:49]

<swoag>

people here typically fire lots of firecrackers and dumpling is the traditional Chinese New Year food.

[20:50]

<swoag>

since no one is around today, I'll go have some dumplings and probably fire a firecracker to celebrate the first crashless OSD FW. ;-)

[20:53]

<crweb>

i'll be back in 10

[20:57]

<daurn>

hteh

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<daurn>

what # is it?

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daurn: ?