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as far as i know

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I have a french, and aribic translater handy too

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and korean

i have an italian translator handy

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<cr-tablet>

I get along very will with my english translator

[11:33]

heh :)

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so, does the that tr system work like i suppose ?

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<cr-tablet>

yes, I just don't know where the translations go

[11:41]

Hello?

[11:41]

hello

[11:41]

Hey, am pretty new here, just havea quick question.

sure, go ahead

Where can I upload some video files that are broken on my OSD.

I remember mention of a FTP server somewhere, is that right?

<cr-tablet>

its ro..

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you can send them to me, and I will host them for the team can get them

well, if you can make them into a clip that is less than 10Mb, you can attach them to a bugzilla bug

I've a couple of issues I wanna log

we can have 10Mb limit raised a bit if it's still too small

Some of them are big enough, and I'm not sure if truncating them always works...

<cr-tablet>

allyourrejects@gmail.com

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greyback: also be aware that if it's copyrighted content, you shouldn't post clips longer than 30 seconds or something anyway

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Nerochiaro: Yeah, some is copyritten

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Hence not wanting to use my webspace:)

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Irene mentioned a FTP server: mailcn.neuros.com.cn on the forums

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its read only

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i think

greyback: i suggest you to split them to a reasonably small clip without truncating (using a splitter program to do that) and if they're still broken, attach them to a bugzilla bug

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maybe they do have a upload folder

link: forums.neurostechnology.com

that server isn't even reachable from here

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it is here

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or was

No username or password is mentioned, but I can reach it from her (Ireland)

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thats where i was getting my rootfs's

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anon doesn't work?

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anonymous

cr-tablet, the linux doesn't show the ethernet interface from vmware

nope

cr-tablet: Tried Anon, no good

shows up in lspci but there's no eth0 device

i got connected using ftp.neuror.com.cn

er, ftp.neuros.com.cn

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natetrue: that is dependant on your vmware setup

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natetrue: that hardware is provided by vmware

ethernet is set to "connected nat"

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should be bridged

tried that too

greyback: try doing that splitting i suggested and using bugzilla

nerochiaro: yeah, sounds like best idea overall. Thanks for help

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natetrue: did you apt-get vmware, or did you manually install

installed on windows, sorry

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natetrue: i assume ifconfig -a shows no eth* ?

greyback: you're welcome

oh, didn't know about -a

there's an eth1 though...

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natetrue: several windows people have said it moved to eth1

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but that is totally dependant on your vmware

greyback: wait a sec

To upload, ftp.neuros.com.cn/OSD-test-files, username/pwd:

neurosftp/qwer1234

woop, that works

thanks cr-tablet

greyback: that was posted in mailing list, see if it works

had to dhclient manually though

weird

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natetrue: what happens is, it creates 2, eth0 becomes nat, eth1 becomes ethernet

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natetrue: edit /etc/network/interfaces

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change auto eth0 to eth1

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same with iface

k

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vmware windows seems to be setting the host network to eth0, and the bridged to eth1, pain in the *&#@

downloading kubuntu-desktop

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oh?

yeah, want to use GUI

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on purpose?

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oh ok

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whew

i get a little annoyed at vi sometimes

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was like, oh crap, what did i do in my latest packages

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use nano

heh

oh no

i hate nano

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use kate

i liked kdevelop when i used it at microsoft

nerochiaro: great, that's handy!

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kdevelop 3.4 is very nice

greyback: still, post a bug and link to the file you uploaded, or it will be useless. ok ?

<cr-tablet>

kate is quick easy and simple

greyback: and if you can, keep the clips short anyway

can you make a script that detects if there's an eth1 and reconfigures to work on windows

will it barf if you have an 'auto eth1' in there with no eth1 interface?

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no, it would be fine

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would have to be a re-release though

well, next release

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since you can't apt-get update without manually making the change

yeah

greyback: for copyright crap and all that jazz

shall i add instructions to the wiki page?

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yes, or find out why it happens with windows vmware

well

the vmware player is so stripped down

even if i knew why it happens

i'd be powerless to change it

nerochiaro: Of course, have list of issues I've to type up. Will give splitting a go first

<cr-tablet>

do you have wireless and ethernet on the host?

i have two ethernet interfaces

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thats why

hmm, do you think that's it?

nerochiaro: Once again, many thanks.

and one of them is unplugged

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vmware wouldn't know which one to use

greyback: thanks to you for reporting bugs

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if you plugged the cable into the other one eth0 would be correct

that also explains why vmware created two virtual ethernet adapters

oddly it's giving 192.168.60 ip addresses which do not correspond to my subnet

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for eth0?

eth1

eth0 is just not there

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huh

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eth0 should be there..

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odd..

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I will take a look

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<cr-tablet>

will take a big of moving stuff around before I have answers

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<cr-tablet>

wiki is probably best

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<cr-tablet>

for a note i mean

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<cr-tablet>

oh

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<cr-tablet>

thats because you're still set to host/nat

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<cr-tablet>

set to bridged then dhcp

it is set to bridged

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you might have to restart it

restart a linux machine? yeah right!

<cr-tablet>

or, plug the cable into the other card real quick

it's still doownloading oOo

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oh

and that would mess up all my other connections!

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<cr-tablet>

well, its currently using a unused subnet to nat your windows net connection to your linux

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and from there a lnux router is NATing to the internets

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<cr-tablet>

if you restart vmware in bridged mode it should go back to treating it like a nother device on the wire

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<cr-tablet>

you won't beable to use the nfs/tftp until is bridged and on the same network

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k

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i will do that when downloading finishes

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<cr-tablet>

or, pull the extra card next time you have a chance, (if vmware is really that confused)

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<cr-tablet>

bridged might still try to link to the unplugged card, where nat/host doesn't use cards at all

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<cr-tablet>

i'll be back

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i could just disable it in hardware manager

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crweb: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop can't find imagemagick libraries

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oh

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weird, the first time i apt-get updated it didn't do it right apparently

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cool, with cygwin i can integrate the windows together

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so all the app windows on the virtual machine just show up on my computer

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(still getting a 192.168.60 address)

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natetrue: I also didn't have eth0 or eth1 on the latest vmware (under Windows), did you get it to work?

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yes

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I couldn't grok from above what you did.

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use ifconfig -a to see if they're just hidden

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do you see an eth0 or eth1 in there?

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* sourcerror going over to windows machine to see...

oh yea it says eth1, so then I edit the file to say eth1 instead of eth0?

yeah

ok

* sourcerror trying...

then reboot, or just "sudo dhclient eth1" to immediately fix it but not permanently

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thanks. rebooted and now can see the net... yay!

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woop

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hey everyone

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<gotan>

anyone here know anything about loadb?

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<gotan>

from uboot?

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<gotan>

or fatload?

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sheesh! I'm having some troubles!

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* JoeBorn brushes dirt from hair, straightens nicktie

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<gotan>

?

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I'm just joking, i was having network troubles.

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so I created some rediculous visual imagery around it.

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hmm, dirt in hair as network troubles

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i got crweb's sweet VM environment working

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he sure made it easy

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weren't you having trouble with the network? what was the upshot of that?

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I haven't gotten that far, I just posted some screen shots of hyperterminal :(

heh

the latest version of putty is way better than HT

didn't you have network trouble, or am I confused?

i did

managed to take care of it but it will be another bother once i try to do nfs/tftp

putty, oh didn't know that.

it's a nice app

anything I should know (and or document on the wiki)?

used to only do SSH but now it supports local COM ports

maybe

oh, didn't know that, I use putty for ssh

i haven't really gone through all the networking difficulties yet

<gotan>

that was you? hypertterm? i did a text setup description earlier today.

i have yet to bring back an A/V cable for the OSD

we had a shoot earlier and i needed to bring an A/V cable that works with the HD camera, and the OSD ones matched

wiki.neurostechnology.com

and lo, i forget to bring it back

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<gotan>

putty does not support com AFAIK, if it does, then tell me because hyperterm is a steaming pile.

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<gotan>

though i was considering trying it with COM<my serial port> and raw mode, i do not see any way of setting abud rates.

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the latest version supports it

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<gotan>

latest cvs version or soemthing?

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gotan, well if you are going to take over, I'm delighted to step aside

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no, latest bin release

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<gotan>

no if you have time to make screen shots its all yours~

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<gotan>

!

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<gotan>

feel free to use my text though.

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<gotan>

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I already posted screen shots

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<gotan>

well mix and match i guess ;)

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<gotan>

well fsck me, putty does now support serial coms. happy days!

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<gotan>

screw hyperterm

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<gotan>

though hyperterm does handle kermit file transfers. i was able to upload a .upk image without error, which is quite cool.

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interestnig

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though how often do you need kermit

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<gotan>

well uboot has a method for you to upload stuff via kermit. kermit being a secure/error free upload mechanism it would be handy for unbricking if you dont have a network.

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<gotan>

or upgrading i you dont have a network/mmc/compact flash etc.

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gotan: can you write a wiki page describing how to upgrade that way ? it would help

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I put your edits on my page wiki.neurostechnology.com

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probably someone should put a link to the latest putty that is known to work

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<gotan>

if i knew how i would happily do it. I cannot find any documentation on it. i was hoping to catch srobbinson? as that guy(gal?) seems to know all about the usdboot mechanism and memory stuff that is needed.

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<gotan>

www.chiark.greenend.org.uk

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<gotan>

from puty .59

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<gotan>

according to www.chiark.greenend.org.uk

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<gotan>

playing with it now.

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<gotan>

no luck. won't opem the port for some reason.

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<gotan>

natetrue, you got putty working?

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<gotan>

whats your COM port no? out of curiosity

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<gotan>

still no luck, but hyperterm is still ok.

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hmm

i've got com11 and com8

one of them is my pic programmer

com11 is the OSD

<gotan>

ok, well i'm on com27, putty is puking where hyperterm still works.

hmm, also won't open

fruity

* natetrue panics

* nerochiaro hands natetrue a towel

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thanks

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<gotan>

?

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<gotan>

oh sorry.

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<gotan>

you got mytt to not work via serial?

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<gotan>

ok JB, checked your page, and updated with some other hyperterm specific stuff.

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<gotan>

could do with some polishing then.

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<gotan>

some pictures ;)

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natetrue, I specifically instructed you *not* to panic

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though I can naturally appreciate that it's always disturbing when a father figure like me leaves you, if even for a short period

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<gotan>

okaaaaaayyyy... btw JB if you know who in your team could fill in the blanks about uploading upk's via hyperterm and/or starting the upgrade process from busybox that would be a good thing to add to the hyperterm/'what can you do over serial coms' page.

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<gotan>

btw JB (ok to use JB instead of JoeBorn?) did you see the links i put last night re:i cringly and BT

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i like JB

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it sounds ultra-hip

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<gotan>

any chance you could record, from reboot the remote control commands to start busybox?

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<gotan>

in the serial log. and paste them here... i want to try something.

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gotan, where?

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<gotan>

well the ui recognises serial IO, so if i knew the characters the remote sends to the ui, then i can cut and paste them into hyperterm and get busybox without killing the current GUI.

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<gotan>

as i am playing with my OSD headless atm i can only asume that wheni hit ctrlC the ui dies and drops me to the busybox command line.

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<gotan>

via hyperterm btw,

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oic

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<gotan>

oic?

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<gotan>

thats ascii?

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<gotan>

0x6f, 0x69, 0x63?

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<gotan>

doesnt seem to work

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<gotan>

lkeydownevent

<gotan>

cbfp addr =1073989684 wid=39

<gotan>

./../src/ui/nwMain.c--OnListboxKeydown: 254

<gotan>

OnListboxKeydown, WID = 39 KEY = 6F

<gotan>

lkeydownevent

<gotan>

cbfp addr =1073989684 wid=39

<gotan>

./../src/ui/nwMain.c--OnListboxKeydown: 254

<gotan>

OnListboxKeydown, WID = 39 KEY = 69

<gotan>

lkeydownevent

<gotan>

cbfp addr =1073989684 wid=39

<gotan>

./../src/ui/nwMain.c--OnListboxKeydown: 254

<gotan>

OnListboxKeydown, WID = 39 KEY = 63

<gotan>

from he serial link, when i press oic