[00:33]	<crweb>	shaunm: I got all of the current firmware software, samba NAS support, AND qt4 all into the firmware
[00:33]	<crweb>	oops
[00:33]	<crweb>	I got all of the current firmware software, samba NAS support, AND qt4 all into the firmware
[00:33]	<crweb>	that wasn't to anyone
[00:43]	<_3oo3_Homework>	hey folks
[00:43]	<_3oo3_Homework>	where am I exactly? lol
[00:43]	<_3oo3_Homework>	was looking for a tech related entrepreneurial discussion
[00:47]	<_3oo3_Homework>	hey iswm
[00:47]	<iswm>	Hey
[01:00]	<_3oo3_Homework>	iswm...where am I exactly ^_^
[01:00]	<iswm>	#neuros would be my guess
[01:02]	<_3oo3_Homework>	yeah, but whats it for? I'm blind of the context hahah....was looking for a tech-related entrepreneurship subject matter
[01:07]	<daurn>	...
[01:07]	<daurn>	google for neuros
[01:09]	<_3oo3_Homework>	i see....OSS
[01:10]	<_3oo3_Homework>	hrm...no mission statement?
[01:10]	<daurn>	?
[01:19]	<jwu>	crweb: I am busy in the 3.1 release sorry to delay the new network support
[04:18]	<crweb>	Everyone, I'm going to be out for a while. I can be contacted on the ML, or tom@limesg.com
[04:20]	<crweb>	see you all next meeting probably
[04:24]	<chreekat>	k
[18:28]	<JoeXBorn>	hi all
[18:40]	<chreekat>	JoeBorn: why is it that you have 4 or 5 nicks that seem to be dancing with each other?
[18:40]	<chreekat>	hehe
[18:40]	<chreekat>	1 or 2 waltz in while a couple others waltz out, etc.
[18:40]	* JoeBorn  does tango with myself
[18:41]	* JoeBorn  breaks into song "and if I had the chance, I'd ask a woman to dance, and not be dancing with myself.."
[18:41]	<chreekat>	haha
[19:06]	<JoeBorn>	okey dokey, I've got a cup of coffee, I have wired the laptop and OSD to ethernet and the house is quiet, time to try hacking the duck once again!
[19:09]	* JoeBorn  gets distracted quickly by shiny object on floor
[19:17]	<JoeBorn>	crweb, you around?
[19:17]	<JoeBorn>	hellwolf, ni hao!
[19:18]	<hellwolf>	JoeBorn, hi :)
[19:21]	<JoeBorn>	I've got my vm running, it appears to have two ethernet connections, and then there's the one for the real ethernet port.
[19:35]	<JoeBorn>	this part of the wiki documentation is pretty sparse
[19:42]	<sourcerror>	oeBorn: FYI... crweb wrote "Everyone, I'm going to be out for a while. I can be contacted on the ML, or tom@limesg.com. see you all next meeting probably"
[19:42]	<sourcerror>	JoeBorn: FYI... crweb wrote "Everyone, I'm going to be out for a while. I can be contacted on the ML, or tom@limesg.com. see you all next meeting probably"
[19:46]	<JoeBorn>	ahh
[19:57]	<JoeBorn>	sourcerror, do you know the networking stuff on the vm?
[19:59]	<sourcerror>	I have not tried to use the VM for server stuff (e.g. TFTP server, or NFS server). I had some network connectivity issue and I know the work around for that if you are seeing that.
[20:03]	<sourcerror>	JoeBorn: what was it you were going to try? is it that you don't have network connectivity from the vm?
[20:06]	<JoeBorn>	well, let me poke around some more. I just wasnt sure how different the instuctions for NFS etc are for the VM, let me poke around with derobert's guide before I pester you all
[20:07]	<Xorlev>	a VM can be used if you assign the VM an IP through a bridged network adaptor.
[20:08]	<sourcerror>	JoeBorn: can you ping a machine on your network from the VM?
[20:09]	<sourcerror>	...there is a quick fix if that is your issue.
[20:10]	<JoeBorn>	I can ping the OSD from the VM
[20:11]	<sourcerror>	ah. good!
[20:13]	<JoeBorn>	hi [g2] I'm thinking of setting up that NSLU2
[20:13]	<JoeBorn>	any tips?
[20:13]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn what do you want it to do ?
[20:14]	<JoeBorn>	file server for OSD and file server for outside the house, it's going to be used at my house
[20:14]	<JoeBorn>	so SMB and FTP or SCP server I guess.
[20:14]	<[g2]>	you probably just want to run unslung
[20:15]	<[g2]>	that's the distro that replaces the nslu2 firmware and extens it some
[20:15]	<[g2]>	like for ssh/scp
[20:15]	<[g2]>	or you could put debian on it
[20:16]	<[g2]>	the would work too
[20:16]	<[g2]>	there's a debian sarge release
[20:16]	<JoeBorn>	my priorities are simplicity, hassle free setup :)
[20:18]	<[g2]>	I'd have to check the latest setup for debianslug
[20:18]	<[g2]>	I don't know if there's a full just flash this image setup or not
[20:25]	<JoeBorn>	unslug is the one you use/work on, no?
[20:27]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn I was the champion of OpenSlug the full firmware replacement :)
[20:28]	<[g2]>	just do the right thing and take over the full box
[20:28]	<[g2]>	this summer will be 3 years since the nslu2 shipped
[20:29]	<[g2]>	originally, they were using the busybox 0.62 and old 2.4 kernel and old glibc
[20:32]	<JoeBorn>	"take over the full box?"
[20:33]	<[g2]>	yeah
[20:34]	<[g2]>	I even tested the bootloader replacement
[20:34]	<[g2]>	then I went and had custom hw made that was soupped up
[20:36]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn slugos/le (debianslug) is 4.3 is in final qa right now
[20:36]	<JoeBorn>	no custom hardware for me :)
[20:37]	<JoeBorn>	I've got enough trouble in my life!
[20:38]	<[g2]>	:)
[20:39]	<JoeBorn>	I guess now that I can ping the OSD from the vm, I need to know how
[20:39]	<JoeBorn>	wiki.neurostechnology.com
[20:40]	<JoeBorn>	is different in the vm setup
[20:44]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn I've got a couple old nslu2s lying around
[20:46]	<JoeBorn>	well, I have one here, we can do a swap out if you're willing :)
[20:47]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn I'm looking to get rid of my nslu2s :)
[20:47]	<[g2]>	I've got my own hw and haven't touched them for like 1.5 years
[20:47]	<[g2]>	the nslu2's that is
[20:47]	<JoeBorn>	oh, ok.
[20:48]	<[g2]>	Linksys is shipping/about the ship the NAS200 which is the gigE big brother for $179
[20:48]	<[g2]>	GigE and 2 user installed SATA drives
[20:50]	<[g2]>	hmmm... engadget says the street price might be $120
[20:50]	<[g2]>	doh... scratch that price
[21:02]	<JoeBorn>	well, I'm confident the NSLU2 will be plenty for my meager needs.
[21:04]	<sumasuma>	g2: i have kurobox, which holds 750G with fedora on it, i also use it as a linux system too
[21:04]	<sumasuma>	costs $149
[21:05]	<[g2]>	sumasuma nod and the network peformance is slow right ?
[21:05]	<[g2]>	slow == like 12MBs (bytes)
[21:05]	<sumasuma>	yes
[21:06]	<sumasuma>	i think that enough for a personal user, not good for corporates
[21:06]	<[g2]>	I'm SCP'ing at 25-30 MBs now at home
[21:06]	<JoeBorn>	wait, 12MB is 100mbits, what is fast? gigabit?
[21:07]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn yeah GigE
[21:07]	<sumasuma>	g2: which device you use ?
[21:07]	<[g2]>	sumasuma right now I've got a PC in the garage
[21:08]	<[g2]>	it's several years old a 2.4 Pentium with a $15 GigE card
[21:08]	<sumasuma>	i c
[21:08]	<[g2]>	it streams over the network at 460Mbs
[21:08]	<[g2]>	600+ from memory
[21:09]	<[g2]>	I'll either get something like the NAS200 to replace it if the i/o performance is good, or my HTPC box will do it
[21:09]	<sumasuma>	all i have is only 100Mbps device, switch, computers etc., even if I have gigE card on the device my computer will not be able to do so, even if computer has, i need to get a gigE switch
[21:09]	<[g2]>	right gigE switches are like $50 for a 5 port now
[21:10]	<[g2]>	so from 1 server you could feed 4 pcs at nearly line rate
[21:10]	<[g2]>	100mbs
[21:10]	<[g2]>	HD QAM is around 40Mbs
[21:11]	<sumasuma>	i just could not find the need of it, i think most of the movies streaming rate is less than 100mbps
[21:11]	<[g2]>	right it's 40mbs per HD channel
[21:12]	<[g2]>	so depending on QoS (quality of service) and number of channels it depends
[21:12]	<[g2]>	Cat 6 is only about a 50% premimum over Cat 5 which is pretty cheap
[21:13]	* [g2]  is all setup to stream HD content from OTA / Cable un-encrypted
[21:33]	<JoeBorn>	I'll say! Certainly more than one channel at a time to boot!
[22:01]	<[g2]>	JoeBorn I mean I can capture multiple HD channels now and stream back many
[22:03]	<JoeBorn>	that's neat
[22:03]	<JoeBorn>	my folks are OTA, and there was a recent NY TImes, I think, article that more and more folks are going that way.
[22:04]	<JoeBorn>	it's great quality and non encrypted so you can watch where you want.
[22:33]	<daurn>	hi