[10:21]	<turran>	hi all
[10:22]	<turran>	im trying to make an application for neuros osd to encode video from a camera
[10:22]	<turran>	but dont want to use the provided ui
[10:22]	<turran>	is it possible?
[10:46]	<JoeBorn>	sure, it's possible, what are you trying to do?
[10:50]	<turran>	im trying to develop an application that should capture the data from a video camera
[10:51]	<turran>	and store it in video/images with different configurations, frame rate, etc
[10:51]	<turran>	but dunno where to start, just downloaded the neuros_osd.tar.bz
[10:56]	<JoeBorn>	do you have any experience with C and Linux?
[10:56]	<turran>	yep =)
[10:57]	<JoeBorn>	ok, well the code is all C and the OSD runs linux, but there are some "unconventional" things about the code
[10:57]	<JoeBorn>	first, OSDMain is a big embedded-style application that does everything
[10:58]	<JoeBorn>	and second it uses nano-x and a custom set of widgets along with a custom media framework with plugins, modeled after XMMS
[10:58]	<JoeBorn>	called NMS neuros media server
[10:59]	<turran>	ok
[11:00]	<turran>	i need to know how to make my toolchain, is it provided? where? to develop apps for the neuros do i have to *only* use the neuros api? if so where is that api documented?
[11:00]	<turran>	after downloading the neuros_osd.tar.bz there are lots of dirs, im currently compiling neuros_bsp
[11:02]	<turran>	also when connecting over serial port to the neuros the osd application is always running
[11:02]	<turran>	if i do ^C the system reboots after a few seconds, so i cant have the console for much time
[11:03]	<turran>	and if i do /etc/init/osdmain stop the same thing happens
[11:03]	<turran>	is there a way to have a console?
[11:12]	<JoeBorn>	yes, well first of all, probably what you need to do first is setup a real dev environment
[11:13]	<JoeBorn>	wiki.neurostechnology.com has something of an overview
[11:14]	<JoeBorn>	which has been enhanced with scratchbox and a vm image wiki.neurostechnology.com
[11:15]	<JoeBorn>	take a look at those and that should give you a notion of what's involved.
[11:15]	<JoeBorn>	the vm image makes setting up the environment much easier
[11:15]	<JoeBorn>	NFS, tftp, cross compiling, etc
[11:15]	<JoeBorn>	all the stuff specific to programming an embedded device.
[11:16]	<turran>	ok, just downloaded the vmware image, i'll take a look into it, thanks :)
[11:20]	<JoeBorn>	happy to help, one thing we'd ask in return is that you help document as you learn
[11:20]	<JoeBorn>	and I'd love to post information about whatever you're doing
[11:20]	<JoeBorn>	to share projects with the community when possible.
[11:23]	<shirour>	Hi everybody...! Is anyone here familiar with the TV OUT drivers of the DM320?
[13:41]	<shirour->	does anyone here know how the tv out driver works?
[17:52]	<Improv>	Hey all
[17:52]	<Improv>	When I use the console app, and use the serial for input,
[17:52]	<Improv>	how do I get rid of the "waiting for input" floaty thing?
[17:59]	<Improv>	Ahh, interesting. Killing osdmain makes the system serial-admin-friendly until the watchdog reboots the system
[18:03]	<chreekat>	hehe
[18:07]	<Improv>	Heya Xorlev
[18:07]	<Xorlev>	'ello
[18:08]	<Improv>	Hmm. Hitting escape also brings up a root prompt
[18:09]	<Improv>	and also eventually makes the watchdog reboot the system
[18:09]	<Improv>	Hmm
[18:10]	<Xorlev>	Did you patch watchdog to not reboot?
[18:11]	<Improv>	Not yet.
[18:11]	<Improv>	I just got the hardware needed to talk to the thing via serial last weekend
[18:11]	<Improv>	And so today was my first boot with a serial console
[18:14]	* Improv  continues to plunk through getting Fedora ready to nfsboot the thing
[18:19]	<Improv>	Hmm
[18:20]	<Improv>	Setting the time/date does not work.
[18:20]	<Improv>	The gui thinks it's the year 2000,
[18:20]	<Improv>	and the cl thinks it's the start of the Unix epoch.
[18:20]	<Improv>	That's irritating.
[18:47]	<JBorn_Handheld>	hi all
[19:26]	<oiswego>	anyone ever the problem where boot hangs when the network cable is plugged in?
[20:30]	<JBorn_Handheld>	hi all