Log from #neuros IRC channel

oh, and you really want to reformat that recorder rocket post. when viewed in full-page mode it's completely screwed up, the detailed image is way too big

[04:07]

yeah, it seems to be back up.

[04:07]

yeah, I know it's too big, but I haven't had time to fix it.

[04:07]

I figured if you're interested enough to click full view you might be interested in seeing the rocket anyway...

[04:10]

it's no big deal, i agree. just my inner web developer coming back to haunt me ;)

[05:28]

<American-Tech>

today your last day nerochiaro?

[05:29]

American-Tech: wow, you're really following things!

[05:29]

American-Tech: aye

[05:30]

<American-Tech>

I try to read the logs

[05:31]

<American-Tech>

cool nerochario. I have no skills so there is no job for me! ;)

[05:33]

American-Tech: you sell stuff well, that's a skill :)

[05:34]

<American-Tech>

not really

[05:34]

not really well, or not really a skill ?

[05:35]

<American-Tech>

not much selling in online. I only talk to about less then 5 percent of people who purchase

[05:39]

i'm a bit of a salesman :S

[05:40]

important skill actually

[05:41]

<American-Tech>

When neuros is as big as apple, Joe is offering me a job as president if sales and marketing. Huge salary and stock options to boot :0

[05:43]

my current boss wants to start a new company

[05:44]

with me in some managerial position

[05:44]

..... i'm a teenager :S

[05:44]

American-Tech: hopefully we won't sue everyone and his dog when we are as big as apple ;)

[05:45]

The dogs typically don't have good counsel, they are good targets

[05:45]

they are eager to settle

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for a bone or two

[05:45]

daurnimator: manager of what ?

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i don't know

[05:46]

i wasn't really listening

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but she thinks i'm a miracle or somthing

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:P

[05:46]

<American-Tech>

Or write open letters to the music industry that are clearly are nothing but a public stunt

[05:47]

I was a little hesitant to put the cartoon of jobs as a jester, but that's what the FSF gives you, so I figured what the heck

[05:48]

JoeBorn: where is that ?

[05:48]

OdNT

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under the rocket I think

[05:48]

eeek, the main page of odnt looks like a terrible mess today in firefox

[05:49]

past few days actually

[05:50]

aside of that rocket screwup, there's the table for the FSF post that wraps around the posts below

[05:50]

a bit more care would be advised on our front page, no ?

[05:51]

well...

[05:52]

if someone has reccomendations on better tools, I'm all ears.

[05:52]

honestly I don't think it looks that bad. Sure one picture pokes into another post, but drupal's smart enough to move text out of the way

[05:53]

so I don't really think it's a big deal. The pictures are random anyway, it's not like they are technical figures that need to be next to text

[05:53]

and frankly the writing and such of the blog is so sloppy anyway

[05:54]

I'm certainly not going to spend more time on it, I spent too much time as it is.

[05:54]

And, whether its cause or effect, readership of OdNT is at an all time high, FWIW

[05:55]

that's good news. but for that very reason, i'm just saying a little more care on formatting would help. it's just that it's our home page, after all. not the "corporate" one, but the one people look at for updates

[05:57]

<Ycros>

it should be fairly trivial to fix actually

[05:57]

Ycros: exactly

[05:58]

fixed it

[05:59]

well it wouldn't have been trivial for me. I'd guess I'd have spent at least 30 min on horsing around with that.

[06:00]

with Drupal taking a dump a time or two for good measure.

[06:00]

<Ycros>

oh wow, it looks crap with it fixed though

[06:00]

<Ycros>

eh it's a one line change

[06:00]

<Ycros>

but only because I've spend a lot of time with CSS and designing websites

[06:00]

Ycros: no doubt, just don't know which line :)

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<Ycros>

:P

[06:00]

JoeBorn: ok, no problem. people will fix stuff when it sees it wrong. me or some other admin. don't worry

[06:01]

<Ycros>

nerochiaro: it blows the boxes out way too much though

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Ycros: do you have drupal editorship ?

[06:01]

well I'll tell you one thing that would be schwell is if you could "see source" in fskeditor without crashing firefox.

[06:02]

alright, well I'm going to go into a meeting with swoag now.

[06:02]

<Ycros>

nerochiaro: no, but I'm a part-time web developer and I have tools loaded in my firefox browser that let me deconstruct and mess with any page on the fly

[06:03]

Ycros: i can give you editor privileges on drupal if you want to help keep stuff looking neat

[06:03]

where I can choose between the option of eating a large plate of steaming stool or jumping out of a 3 story building :(

[06:04]

<Ycros>

the problem is the images are floated to the right, and float takes them out of normal page flow, you need to clear the float on an element after them

[06:04]

<Ycros>

in this case it makes sense to use the links at the bottom to clear the float

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<Ycros>

but imo it looks even worse, because the images are so huge, and there's not much text

[06:06]

JoeBorn: what is so ugly in that meeting ?

[06:07]

oh, this miserable architecture question, we've just been tossing around.

[06:07]

we clearly don't have the expertise to manage this process on a low level, that's plain as day

[06:07]

the refactoring or the stuff about 2.0 ?

[06:08]

you have no idea how horrendous this OSD 1 integration process has been

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the 2.0

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ah, ok. see my email on that. i sent a few hours ago

[06:08]

we had one of our sales guys sitting at Ingenient helping with testing

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I saw it

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It will be over 18 months since we licensed that IP to getting a product out

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of course in all fairness we were starting our team at the same time and had never done anything like that before...

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but still to think of going through a process like that, it's beyond imagination on the horrendous scale.

[06:11]

<Ycros>

eh, it's much better than not doing it :)

[06:12]

well, not sure what you mean,but we have to find a better way.

[06:13]

JoeBorn: it can be a mess to manage if done the way we did it for 1.0, i agree. but the other way, of keeping vendor's stuff 100% as is worse for other reasons

[06:14]

tell ingenient they're crap :S

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and you want a refund ;)

[06:14]

right, I'm not sure we can't dictate, open but hold them to some higher level performance

[08:17]

up again =)

[08:18]

schweet

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well they can't do much, you can't even ssh into the box

[08:25]

didn't know it was that bad

[08:26]

on ya bike ;)

[08:28]

maybe it's something with the hosting, now I'm getting their page

[08:28]

anyone wants to suggest a cheap and readily available video camera that can be plugged into the OSD

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?

[08:29]

your nearest webcam?

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daurnimator: they generally are usb-only

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"can be plugged into the OSD" - tick!

[08:30]

just.... may need drivers ;)

[08:30]

daurnimator: into OSD video input, ok ?

[08:31]

oh, you need a helmet cam

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ok, I'm taking off

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l8tr all

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i'll check helmet cams

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bye

[10:38]

GarBage: hey. do you have minute ?

[11:27]

<Lewix>

hi, I would like to unlock a cellphone

[11:29]

<Lewix>

sony ericsson K790a, I've been looking everywhere but I didn't find something relevant. So if you can help, let me know

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Lewix: it's a completely off topic here, just to let you know about that

[11:38]

<Lewix>

nerochiaro: ok, I'm sorry. what's the topic here

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the neuros products, especially the neuros OSD

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how did you came here, by the way ?

[11:40]

just curiosity ;)

[11:40]

<Lewix>

how did I come* here?, hmm I googled unlock irc

[11:41]

<Lewix>

then I saw a log from this channel in witch someone was talking about unlocking a phone

[11:41]

<Lewix>

I believe

[11:42]

ah, ok. the power of google :)

[11:42]

<Lewix>

I don't know about that. As a matter of fact, I'm off topic

[11:43]

<Lewix>

let's say the weakness of google

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<Lewix>

:)

[11:43]

sorry, i didn't want to be topic police or anything, maybe you can just find someone to help you out in here, you never know

[11:44]

<Lewix>

it's alright. I got you. well, I will idle for a while and see what happen

[11:45]

i'm heading off anyway. good luck

[11:46]

<Lewix>

thanks. have a good day/night

[12:00]

<Inc>

=p

[16:21]

no SoC, then?

[17:28]

<cr-tablet>

anyone have the Virtual machine up and running right now?

[17:40]

<cr-tablet>

JoeyBorn: I want to wait to push the samba client into the firmware until after 3.0.25 is released. We'll beable to knock out some bugs, and vista in one swoop

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<cr-tablet>

err, the samba server i mean

[20:05]

cr-tablet: that sounds good (answering message from probably hours ago)

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re JoeyBorn

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Xorlev: you around?

[21:08]

any idea what happened to OdNT?

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