| [00:45] | <crweb2> | antics: please inform us :) |
| [01:25] | <tsdano> | anyone awake? I'm unable to connect to a browseable samba share, username and password seem correct, but I don't see any traffic from the neuros on the net |
| [01:25] | <JRB_handheld> | hi all |
| [01:25] | <tsdano> | hi |
| [01:25] | <JRB_handheld> | tsdano: howdy |
| [01:27] | <JRB_handheld> | I imagine some useful folks will show up here pretty soon. |
| [01:28] | <JRB_handheld> | nerochiaro: you around? |
| [01:28] | <nerochiaro> | JRB_handheld: i am now, didn't see the activity here in chat, sorry |
| [01:29] | <tsdano> | hey |
| [01:29] | <nerochiaro> | but i'm not really much of an expert on samba. most of the time it tricks me too. i'll see if i can send Tom here a moment |
| [01:32] | <tsdano> | well, here's the deal |
| [01:32] | <tsdano> | just to set things up properly |
| [01:32] | <tsdano> | there's a linux box running samba, it exports various shares. A username of 'test' and an associated password have been setup |
| [01:33] | <tsdano> | the N can't seem to authenicate, but using "smbclient \\\\192.168.0.1\\photos -U test |
| [01:33] | <tsdano> | and entering the password results in a valid share |
| [01:34] | <nerochiaro> | but when you enter it with the neuros GUI, it doesn't work ? |
| [01:36] | <tsdano> | yep |
| [01:36] | <tsdano> | firmware is upgraded to the most recent release |
| [01:37] | <nerochiaro> | official release or [dev] release ? |
| [01:38] | <tsdano> | official |
| [01:38] | <tsdano> | i've turned up the log level to 5 on the smb server, lets see what gets documented |
| [01:39] | <nerochiaro> | right now it's calling the shell commands from the GUI. i think it may be simply mis-quoting something |
| [01:39] | <nerochiaro> | but please do, that may be helpful |
| [01:39] | <tsdano> | nothing really interesting gets put in the logs, but it is talking to the server |
| [01:40] | <tsdano> | is console available via ethernet? |
| [01:40] | <nerochiaro> | yep |
| [01:41] | <tsdano> | ssh, telnet ?? |
| [01:41] | <nerochiaro> | telnet. username/pwd are in the channel topic |
| [01:42] | <tsdano> | so the gui is running /sbin/smbclient, correct? |
| [01:43] | <tsdano> | manually it works fine |
| [01:43] | <tsdano> | logs me right in |
| [01:44] | <tsdano> | here's what I got on the console |
| [01:44] | <tsdano> | pastebin.com |
| [01:44] | <nerochiaro> | last time i checked, yes. then it mounts it with "mount -t cifs ..." |
| [01:49] | <nerochiaro> | tsdano: a person more knowledgeable in samba will be here in a few minutes, btw |
| [01:52] | <tsdano> | cool |
| [01:53] | <tsdano> | this works: /sbin/smbclient \\\\192.168.0.1\\pictures -U test |
| [01:53] | <nerochiaro> | without pwd ? |
| [01:53] | <tsdano> | this does not work: mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/pictures -o username=test /tmp/photos |
| [01:53] | <tsdano> | the smbclient asks for a password |
| [01:53] | <tsdano> | which I enter and viola |
| [01:54] | <nerochiaro> | and i assume you pass the pass to the -o of mount too ? |
| [01:54] | <tsdano> | I tried the password options on cifs - now don't everyone laugh at once |
| [01:54] | <tsdano> | mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/pictures -o username=test,password=xyz /tmp/photos |
| [01:56] | <tsdano> | i'm going to watch a little John Stewart while waiting.... |
| [01:56] | <nerochiaro> | thanks for the patience |
| [01:57] | <tsdano> | oh sure, let me know how I can help |
| [01:57] | <tsdano> | I use busybox at work so everything is quite familiar |
| [02:03] | <JRB_handheld> | hello? |
| [02:05] | <tsdano> | hi |
| [02:05] | <nerochiaro> | JRB_handheld: handleld hiccups ? |
| [02:07] | <tsdano> | you got reset |
| [02:07] | <tsdano> | "reliable" internet |
| [02:07] | <tsdano> | so, any samba people here yet? |
| [02:11] | <crweb2> | I'm here |
| [02:12] | <JohnDesigner> | hi JRB_handheld ! |
| [02:12] | <JohnDesigner> | how goes the CES party? |
| [02:13] | <tsdano> | crweb2: are you able to work with me on a cifs mounting problem? |
| [02:13] | <crweb2> | yep |
| [02:13] | <crweb2> | give me few seconds to get booted up |
| [02:13] | <tsdano> | np |
| [02:14] | <crweb2> | there is a problem with mount -t cifs sometimes |
| [02:14] | <crweb2> | have you tried mount.cifs ? |
| [02:15] | <tsdano> | yep |
| [02:15] | <tsdano> | pastebin.com |
| [02:15] | <crweb2> | mount -t cifs -o user=test,pass=something //192.168.0.1/pictures /tmp/photos |
| [02:16] | <tsdano> | mount: mounting \\192.168.0.1\pictures on /tmp/photos failed |
| [02:16] | <crweb2> | awesome |
| [02:16] | <tsdano> | /proc/fs/cifs $ ls -ld /tmp/photos |
| [02:16] | <tsdano> | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 Jan 9 23:46 /tmp/photos |
| [02:16] | <tsdano> | you're funny :-) |
| [02:18] | <crweb2> | ok.. |
| [02:18] | <crweb2> | works here heh |
| [02:19] | <tsdano> | what security level is the cifs module using? |
| [02:19] | <tsdano> | lanman or ntlm |
| [02:19] | <crweb2> | cifs uses ntlm |
| [02:20] | <crweb2> | what device is 192.168.0.1 ? |
| [02:20] | <tsdano> | linux box |
| [02:20] | <tsdano> | older version of redhat - 7.3 |
| [02:21] | <crweb2> | ah |
| [02:21] | <tsdano> | my xbox can get to it fine as can all my winders boxes |
| [02:21] | <crweb2> | i dunno if cifs support was in samba 2* |
| [02:22] | <tsdano> | hmm... really |
| [02:23] | <crweb2> | yes. such an old kernel and samba probably does not support cifs. |
| [02:23] | <crweb2> | which was introduced in kernel 2.6 i believe |
| [02:24] | <tsdano> | grumble |
| [02:24] | <crweb2> | you can upgrade your samba by hand though |
| [02:24] | <tsdano> | that machine was built in 1998 and it runs great, hate to fiddle with it... |
| [02:24] | <tsdano> | I suppose 9 years is long enough ;-) |
| [02:24] | <crweb2> | i loved RH 7.3 |
| [02:25] | <tsdano> | nice and stable for certain |
| [02:25] | <crweb2> | it was the last distro i ever used from redhat, and my last "joy". |
| [02:25] | <crweb2> | now I go with whatever is getting most dev focus |
| [02:25] | <tsdano> | they went over to the bloatware side of the force |
| [02:25] | <crweb2> | and back then they modded gnome to look like kde |
| [02:26] | <tsdano> | so which release is your current favorite? |
| [02:26] | <tsdano> | yeah, that too |
| [02:26] | <crweb2> | that pissed me off back then cause i was totally gnome |
| [02:26] | <tsdano> | yep |
| [02:26] | <crweb2> | but since, i've went qt/kde cause of fights with gnome devs |
| [02:26] | <tsdano> | we all need to stop fighting somehow |
| [02:26] | <tsdano> | it's hard though, lots of strong opinions |
| [02:26] | <crweb2> | i and most of us use newest kubuntu or ubuntu |
| [02:27] | <crweb2> | well, my fighting wasn't holy war |
| [02:27] | <crweb2> | mine was along the lines of "no, we won't fix it because its a feature not a bug" |
| [02:27] | <tsdano> | so on the cifs thing, the server (the linux box) has to have it built into the kernel? samba is a userspace app.. |
| [02:27] | <crweb2> | gnome devs.. very hard people to talk to. |
| [02:27] | <crweb2> | no no, i was just giving you a timeline |
| [02:27] | <crweb2> | newer samba will allow you to mount |
| [02:28] | <crweb2> | RH7.3 won't allow you to mount cifs shares though. |
| [02:28] | <crweb2> | so you can serve cifs, but can't mount cifs in RH 7.3 |
| [02:29] | <crweb2> | for verification, what windows do you use? |
| [02:29] | <tsdano> | compiling |
| [02:29] | <tsdano> | xp pro |
| [02:29] | <crweb2> | good. if youmake a share on xp, you should beable to mount it with osd |
| [02:29] | <tsdano> | then there's the mac mini in the corner and the modded xbox |
| [02:30] | <crweb2> | if you can't. I'm totally incorrect... |
| [02:30] | <crweb2> | it has happened... |
| [02:30] | <crweb2> | don't forget to turn of XP firewall |
| [02:31] | <tsdano> | ok, I've just setup a winders share |
| [02:31] | <tsdano> | fw off |
| [02:36] | <tsdano> | testing things ... back shortly |
| [02:36] | <tsdano> | crap |
| [02:37] | <tsdano> | you're right |
| [02:38] | <tsdano> | it pics up the xp share just fine |
| [02:38] | <crweb2> | excellent |
| [02:38] | <tsdano> | crap - forced upgrade |
| [02:38] | <tsdano> | of the linux box |
| [02:38] | <crweb2> | i'd just recompile samba |
| [02:38] | <crweb2> | install it separate from the system |
| [02:38] | <crweb2> | in /usr/local/samba |
| [02:38] | <tsdano> | it's on it's way |
| [02:38] | <tsdano> | exactly |
| [02:39] | <tsdano> | that system was built when firewalls and stuff were too expensive |
| [02:39] | <crweb2> | been a long time since i've seen someone run classic linux ;) |
| [02:39] | <tsdano> | hey |
| [02:39] | <tsdano> | careful. I'm more classic than you might imagine. |
| [02:39] | <crweb2> | lol |
| [02:39] | <crweb2> | then i'm just a little kid |
| [02:40] | <tsdano> | first *nix box .... are you ready... Sun 3 |
| [02:40] | <crweb2> | nice |
| [02:40] | <tsdano> | first *net connected system - SCORE and MITXX |
| [02:40] | <tsdano> | first sort-a-router experience, an IMP |
| [02:40] | <crweb2> | i've never even seen those. I was going to buy a 33mhz sun workstation on ebay |
| [02:40] | <tsdano> | SCORE and MIT-XX were DEC-20's |
| [02:40] | <crweb2> | can't find a use for it though |
| [02:41] | <tsdano> | door stops |
| [02:41] | <tsdano> | oh, here's a good one, I used the original SAIL system in the early 80's... they connected a bell with a solenoid to the computer and it would chime ships bells |
| [02:41] | <tsdano> | goofy stuff |
| [02:42] | <tsdano> | anyway |
| [02:42] | <crweb2> | i'm sad i missed the oppertunity to go unix. A guy at air force base was telling my dad about unix/linux. He had an extra machine and discs |
| [02:42] | <crweb2> | dad asked me if i wanted it cause it was suppose to be a pretty great thing |
| [02:42] | <crweb2> | i was.. 14 and said. "no.. i'm pretty sure thats old crap" |
| [02:42] | <tsdano> | heh heh, yeah |
| [02:42] | <crweb2> | was totally into nt workstation 4.0 |
| [02:42] | <tsdano> | I love to hear that "dd" is 25 years old |
| [02:43] | <crweb2> | but in 1999 linux hit me |
| [02:43] | <tsdano> | good! |
| [02:43] | <crweb2> | had a chance in 1995 though |
| [02:43] | <tsdano> | someplace on a disk somewhere is my contribution to sunos in like 86/87 |
| [02:44] | <tsdano> | A few of us, via uucp, created a resolver library for sunos so that we could use DNS which sunos didn't support |
| [02:44] | <tsdano> | what got you hooked, btw? |
| [02:44] | <crweb2> | i got flung into a job by a friend |
| [02:45] | <crweb2> | he handed me a stack of books, and said i'm leaving, there are 2 servers that are linux and 50 widnows workstations. bye. |
| [02:45] | <tsdano> | nice |
| [02:45] | <crweb2> | so i had to install linux at home network to know how to do job |
| [02:45] | <crweb2> | and was hooked. very new and exciting |
| [02:46] | <crweb2> | i toggled back and forth between workstation and linux for about 6 months. |
| [02:46] | <tsdano> | trivia - I paid hans reiser to add journaling to reiserfs in 1999/2000 |
| [02:46] | <tsdano> | my anonymous claim to fame |
| [02:46] | <tsdano> | so on the neuros - what's the game plan? I'm kind of looking to replace the modded xbox |
| [02:46] | <crweb2> | interesting |
| [02:47] | <tsdano> | if you fire up reiserfs you'll see a message like "journaling sponsored by mp3.com" or something like that |
| [02:47] | <tsdano> | too bad about hans being diffuclt and all his other probs |
| [02:47] | <crweb2> | i remember who sponsered reiserfs ;) |
| [02:48] | <tsdano> | so on to the future, and forget the past |
| [02:48] | <tsdano> | neuros - cool box |
| [02:49] | <tsdano> | is it running mplayer? |
| [02:49] | <tsdano> | can't find it in the file system.. |
| [02:49] | <nerochiaro> | nope |
| [02:49] | <tsdano> | not mp3's either I suppose |
| [02:49] | <nerochiaro> | that's the ugly part of the cool box, for video it's running codecs on a DSP |
| [02:50] | <tsdano> | k |
| [02:50] | <nerochiaro> | for audio, we do most stuff on ARM using xmms2 and OSS codecs |
| [02:50] | <tsdano> | we use a cirrus logics processor on our current box |
| [02:50] | <tsdano> | not too fast, but just right to do the job |
| [02:51] | <tsdano> | heh, this is funny stuff, you've included yellow pages libraries (aka NIS) |
| [02:51] | <tsdano> | usesless |
| [02:51] | <nerochiaro> | i remember cirrus as maker of video cards back i think in the 286 times |
| [02:51] | <nerochiaro> | i may be wrong |
| [02:52] | <nerochiaro> | NIS ? where ? |
| [02:52] | <tsdano> | they make arm processors |
| [02:52] | <tsdano> | and all kinds of goodies |
| [02:52] | <tsdano> | /lib/libnss_nis-2.3.6.so |
| [02:52] | <crweb2> | things depend on it |
| [02:53] | <tsdano> | I know... its just old skoll |
| [02:53] | <crweb2> | there probably is plenty of cleanup to do and rebuilding of toolchain etc |
| [02:53] | <tsdano> | it's no big deal |
| [02:55] | <tsdano> | so the audio sub-system is it an AC97 compatible device with a custom DSP in front of it |
| [02:58] | <crweb2> | nope. |
| [02:58] | <crweb2> | I'm trying to recall from memory, its been a while since i've thought about it |
| [02:59] | <tsdano> | any plans to have higher quality video out? |
| [03:00] | <crweb2> | the osd 2.0 will be hdmi with HD support |
| [03:01] | <nerochiaro> | plans are still being made on that |
| [03:01] | <nerochiaro> | but that's the idea |
| [03:01] | <crweb2> | yeah, its still in planning |
| [03:01] | <tsdano> | good deal |
| [03:01] | <crweb2> | the current hardware's video out quality is kind of fixed cause its the max analog can do |
| [03:01] | <tsdano> | nod |
| [03:01] | <crweb2> | other details about the 2.0 is much more open video/audio system |
| [03:02] | <crweb2> | possibily |
| [03:02] | <crweb2> | much talk about TI's davinci |
| [03:05] | <crweb2> | if you join up on the mailing list etc, input, suggestions etc are always welcome |
| [03:06] | <nerochiaro> | crweb32: does your backup nicks work in powers of 2 ? |
| [03:07] | <crweb32> | yes |
| [03:07] | <crweb32> | 2,32,64 |
| [03:08] | <crweb32> | if i could get my nintendo online i'd use 8 |
| [03:08] | <JohnDesigner> | those are numbers of his favorite football players |
| [03:08] | <crweb32> | whats football? |
| [03:08] | <nerochiaro> | crweb32: what's the 2bit machine you got online, then ? |
| [03:08] | <crweb32> | 2bit p.o.s. |
| [03:09] | <crweb32> | (thats an american saying) |
| [03:09] | <nerochiaro> | i'm glad it stands for "point of sale" around here, then ;) |
| [03:09] | <crweb32> | lol |
| [18:25] | <media1> | does anyone here know how to use mediacoder to edit the OSD mp4 video files. Mediacoder reads the MP4 file fine but will not reproduce a file that the osd can then play again. |
| [19:00] | <DeepB> | media1: man mencoder ? |
| [19:12] | <JRB_handheld> | hi all |
| [19:14] | <media1> | I got it to convert to an ASF from MP4 and used Waveform Audio resample to Original |
| [19:14] | <media1> | but cant seem to find the magic to convert to MP4 that the OSD can show |
| [19:34] | <DeepB> | anyone has admin access to wiki? |
| [19:35] | <DeepB> | img259.imageshack.us |
| [19:36] | <DeepB> | JRB_handheld: hi |
| [19:38] | <DeepB> | i cannot access |
| [20:42] | <vmarks> | DeepB, interesting screenshot. |
| [20:42] | <vmarks> | nice anime in stage6, and leopard style apple dock. |
| [20:42] | <vmarks> | which distro? |
| [20:43] | <DeepB> | vmarks: Ubuntu Gutsy |
| [20:45] | <DeepB> | vmarks: in a MacBook Pro |
| [20:53] | <vmarks> | neat. |