[01:07]	<crweb>	I had a SL-5500
[01:07]	<crweb>	it was a pain in the ass. However, it was very much more useful than my Palm TX
[01:07]	<crweb>	palm seems to have released the TX and then just dropped all thinking of it. No updates for phone support, no OS updates... nothing..
[07:53]	<JimPA>	hello
[11:58]	<johwbush>	Curious about this device. I work for a University and this product is nice, would like to be able to control Record Stop functions and have feedback for students using AMX control. How can this be accomplished through serial. I can handle protocol manuals if someone else can provide me with a script for the OSD to handle it
[12:00]	<nerochiaro>	johwbush: right now serial is used to attach a console, for debugging and developement. i never heard anyone using serial with the OSD to do anything else
[12:02]	<johwbush>	I see.
[12:02]	<nerochiaro>	johwbush: you would probably have to do most of the research on detaching that console from serial and using it for something else. personally, i'm not sure how to do that
[12:02]	<nerochiaro>	but maybe someone else does. you may want to try asking in our mailing list
[12:03]	<nerochiaro>	groups.google.com
[12:03]	<johwbush>	k I will join that.
[12:03]	<johwbush>	Thanks
[12:03]	<nerochiaro>	you're welcome. good luck
[15:02]	<JoeBorn>	hi all
[15:02]	<JoeBorn>	what's new on the channel?
[15:10]	<NC-17>	topic sure isnt :)
[16:06]	<mcr>	hi. just got my neuros. it's great.
[16:09]	<JoeBorn>	mcr: great, welcome aboard!
[16:10]	<mcr>	I'm trying to NFS mount one of my file servers.
[16:10]	<mcr>	oh, it finally finished just now.
[16:12]	<mcr>	I can clearly hack /etc/fstab to add my NFS mounts, but it seems that they should be in /mnt/tmpfs/media/ to be found by the browsing.
[16:12]	<mcr>	but a tmpfs isn't going to survive a reboot...
[16:13]	<mcr>	hmm. did it just crash? It played a bit of a dvd from that file server (a .vob file)...
[16:15]	<mcr>	power cycling.
[16:15]	<JoeBorn>	the unit can have trouble with .vob files, but certainly shouldn't crash!
[16:16]	<mcr>	I guess I could hack my RJ45 cable that connects from my media cabinet to use the extra two pairs for the serial console, and hook it to my annex2000...
[16:18]	<mcr>	can I stick a shell script into /mnt/OSD that will get run?
[16:19]	<mcr>	cause /etc is RO.
[16:19]	<JoeBorn>	I don't know. I know that was being worked on .
[16:31]	<crweb>	mcr: add nolock
[16:32]	<mcr>	nolock, good point.
[16:32]	<crweb>	mcr: /mnt/OSD/rc.user i believe
[16:32]	<mcr>	rc.user? okay.
[16:32]	<mcr>	what userid does the neuros use across NFS?
[16:32]	<crweb>	actually, i have a firmware build with it right now, let me look
[16:32]	<mcr>	root, I'm guessing.
[16:32]	<crweb>	mcr: yes, root
[16:33]	<crweb>	yes, /mnt/OSD/rc.user
[16:33]	<mcr>	annoying. I'd rather that they had gotten the lsb folks to give them a <100 uid.
[16:33]	<crweb>	i made it so it runs very last
[16:33]	<mcr>	is this in the stock firmware?
[16:34]	<mcr>	where do I tell the neuros where to record programs to?
[16:34]	<mcr>	My 2.5 year old is happily watching the thomas video that was on our movie partition...
[16:34]	<crweb>	yes stock firmware
[16:34]	<mcr>	does the rc.user have to do start/stop stuff?
[16:34]	<crweb>	no, it just runs
[16:35]	<crweb>	sh /mnt/OSD/rc.user
[16:35]	<mcr>	cool.
[16:35]	<crweb>	is init's last action before handing over login
[16:35]	<crweb>	you can set record path in settings menu
[16:35]	<mcr>	okay. I'll reboot it later to check that it mounted right.
[16:36]	<mcr>	hmm. my movies partition has two debian distros on it too :-)
[16:36]	<mcr>	old ones too.
[16:36]	<crweb>	thats the way debian likes it
[16:38]	<mcr>	ha. well, these are OLD. as in... potato.
[16:38]	<mcr>	I think I'll delete them.
[16:38]	<mcr>	this 300G drive has been sitting here along time waiting for me to get PVR stuff sorted out. My wife's old desktop has the whole hauppage... etc.
[16:38]	<crweb>	i did that once
[16:39]	<crweb>	my WinTV-PVR500 is sitting here on my desk..
[16:39]	<crweb>	got old, fast
[16:40]	<mcr>	hmm. it the SaveTo, under Default Recording lets me pick the new folder...
[16:41]	<crweb>	yeah i think thats it
[16:41]	<crweb>	i go a little shaddy when it comes to using it
[16:41]	<crweb>	JoeBorn can cover that though ;)
[16:42]	<crweb>	mcr: the .vob problem is that its just a ton of data
[16:42]	<crweb>	huge bitrates, huge resolution, huge filesize :)
[16:44]	<mcr>	hi, yeah, got it on vob issue.
[16:44]	<mcr>	"warning, no storage found, unable to record"
[16:45]	<mcr>	does it think my NFS mount isn't good?
[16:45]	<mcr>	does it do a write check (maybe that's failing)
[16:46]	<mcr>	22:53:44.386096 IP 209.87.252.228.2725285681 > 209.87.252.227.2049: 104 fsstat [|nfs]
[16:47]	<mcr>	(and an okay reply)
[16:47]	<mcr>	does it check the file modes on the dir?
[16:49]	<crweb>	where did you mount it to?
[16:51]	<mcr>	mount -o nolock aragorn:/cadillac /mnt/tmpfs/media/aragorn/cadillac
[16:52]	<mcr>	should I mount it somewhere else?
[16:55]	<crweb>	i would try, just for the sake of maybe
[16:55]	<crweb>	/mnt/tmpfs/media/network/cadillac
[16:55]	<crweb>	you'll have to create the dir in your script every time you want to mount
[16:55]	<mcr>	yes, I'm doing that... thus the need for rc.user :-)
[16:55]	<mcr>	and it seems that fstab isn't editable.
[16:55]	<mcr>	ah,but now we are watching Thomas video #2.
[16:56]	<mcr>	there will be a meltdown if I interrupt Donald's Duck.
[16:56]	<mcr>	I chmod 1777 the dir, so even it's writing with another uid, it should be able to create files.
[16:57]	<mcr>	It would cool if my OSD could talk to my friend's OSD via VPN.
[16:57]	* mcr  is openswan maintainer.
[16:58]	<mcr>	yes, nolock makes the mount work immediately.
[16:58]	<mcr>	okay... video almost over.
[16:59]	<mcr>	are you suggesting that the subdirs may be confusing it?
[17:00]	<mcr>	mount -o nolock aragorn:/cadillac/movies/Den /mnt/tmpfs/media/new
[17:00]	<mcr>	that didn't complain when I pointed to that dir.
[17:01]	<mcr>	it's recording.
[17:01]	<mcr>	osd.mp4.
[17:05]	<mcr>	yeah.
[17:08]	<mcr>	pushing the red button... writes to that one filename.
[17:08]	<mcr>	does the filename get rolled/replaced/etc.?
[17:08]	<mcr>	or will it always be "osd.mp4"?
[17:08]	<mcr>	(or whatever I set it to)
[22:23]	<josh1>	Hi, I was just curious: Does anybody have the FCC ID for the OSD? I was just wondering about any interference.