| [00:47] | <bgarney> | There we go |
| [00:47] | <bgarney> | Hey, does anyone have any experience troubleshooting serial links? |
| [00:50] | <daurnimator> | make sure its plugged in |
| [00:50] | <daurnimator> | try it with/without a nullmodem |
| [00:50] | <daurnimator> | make sure you have 115200 8N1 no flow |
| [00:50] | <daurnimator> | thats about it |
| [00:51] | <bgarney> | I get gibberish sometimes |
| [00:52] | <bgarney> | I was hoping someone could tell if it meant bad cable, bad settings, I'm an idiot, my usb-serial adapter is not appropriate... |
| [00:52] | <bgarney> | I'm so needy :) |
| [00:57] | <bgarney> | specifically I get this when I send a break: üüüøüüüøøüüüøøüüüüüüüüüüüøüøüüüüüüüøøøü |
| [04:41] | <crweb> | wish he was still here |
| [04:42] | <crweb> | all he needs to do is push the connector the rest of the way in |
| [04:42] | <crweb> | although, i do have a unit with a bad serial port |
| [06:48] | <mcr> | bgarney, that's likely wrong baud rate. |
| [06:48] | <mcr> | stock getty might try to autobaud on break. |
| [06:52] | <greyback> | crweb: any recommendation for a good Qt4 book? |
| [06:54] | <crweb> | there are 2 |
| [06:54] | <crweb> | C++ Gui Programming With Qt4 |
| [06:54] | <crweb> | An Introduction To Design Patterens in C++ with Qt4 |
| [06:55] | <crweb> | and a generic C++ book would do to handle all the odd little things from c++ that Qt sometimes doesn't mask |
| [06:56] | <crweb> | and of course, everything on doc.trolltech.com |
| [06:56] | <crweb> | the Qt3 book can be helpful sometimes though not compatibile but it is free |
| [07:20] | <greyback> | crweb: I'm fine with C++ (have Deitel& Deitel). I just like having a textbook on my knees, easier to find stuff that way. Thanks for the suggestions. |
| [07:21] | <crweb> | greyback: the easiest way to find stuff is the search box in assistant |
| [07:23] | <greyback> | I need a more overall idea of what this library does & how I work with it. There's a lot I've not heard of, and I'm having problems figuring out the function definitions in the docs online. |
| [07:26] | <crweb> | yeah, online it would be an issue |
| [07:27] | <crweb> | if you have qt4 in your linux distro install it and startup assistant |
| [07:27] | <crweb> | its an amazing help tool |
| [07:27] | <crweb> | and lots of tutorials in the contents section |
| [07:28] | <greyback> | Hmm, I'd not heard of "startup assistant" Will give it a go |
| [07:28] | <crweb> | no start "assistant" |
| [07:29] | <crweb> | what distro do you have |
| [07:29] | <greyback> | Ubuntu |
| [07:29] | <crweb> | 6 7.1 ? |
| [07:29] | <greyback> | I think 7.1 |
| [07:30] | <crweb> | qt4-doc qt4-dev-tools qt4-designer libqt4-core libqt4-gui libqt4-sql |
| [07:30] | <crweb> | this should cover you |
| [07:31] | <greyback> | that'll explain it, I'd only dev-tools installed. |
| [15:29] | <gremlin[it]> | damn ... the seflmade kernel don't boot ... just "Uncompressing Lin" ... had something similar in the past ? |
| [15:30] | <nerochiaro> | i recall someone else having it break that way, but can't recall the solution |
| [15:30] | <nerochiaro> | try searching the channel logs maybe |
| [15:30] | <gremlin[it]> | thanks ! |
| [15:34] | <gremlin[it]> | nerochiaro ... whan happen ??? i mean ... ther isn't a search engine :( |
| [15:35] | <nerochiaro> | yeah, we used to have one, but we don't have it anymore. you have two choices. one is seeing if google's site: modifier helps you. second is wget+grep |
| [15:38] | <gremlin[it]> | google is powerfull :) |
| [15:42] | <gremlin[it]> | mhh on the log i didn't fount any solution :( |
| [15:43] | <nerochiaro> | sorry, can't remember what else you can check. can you boot using NFS and TFTP ? |
| [15:50] | <josh1> | Hi, I was wondering if anybody here had the FCC ID for the Neuros OSD? |
| [15:51] | <gremlin[it]> | i'm not able to boot via nfs / tftp |
| [15:51] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: isn't it on the back sticker ? |
| [15:51] | <nerochiaro> | gremlin[it]: same issue with kernel ? |
| [15:51] | <gremlin[it]> | i don't touch flash (except saving parameters) |
| [15:52] | <gremlin[it]> | 'run cramfs_boot' work well ... |
| [15:53] | <nerochiaro> | how do you boot your custom kernel ? |
| [15:53] | <josh1> | nerochiaro: I don't have one yet, I would like to make sure that it does not radiate any extra RF. |
| [15:54] | <nerochiaro> | let me check if can see on mine |
| [15:54] | <josh1> | k, thanks |
| [15:56] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: how does that code look like ? |
| [15:57] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: US6011000 ? |
| [15:57] | <gremlin[it]> | folloing istruction ... with run devkernel ... it download via tftp .. decompress ... and then no more than "Uncompressing Lin" |
| [15:58] | <nerochiaro> | gremlin[it]: check the size of your kernel and an official one. if they are very different you may have built it wrong |
| [16:00] | <gremlin[it]> | i don't have build ... can u tell me the size of the official one ??? |
| [16:01] | <nerochiaro> | -rw-r--r-- 1 nerochiaro nerochiaro 1.3M 2007-12-23 18:21 /srv/neuros/images/uImage |
| [16:01] | <gremlin[it]> | my own is 1091492 bytes == 1065 Kbyte ... |
| [16:01] | <gremlin[it]> | it's smaller ... |
| [16:01] | <nerochiaro> | mine is 1267836 to be exact |
| [16:03] | <gremlin[it]> | i'm using the kernel branch pqiu_rls_3.33-1.72_071207 ... it's ok ? |
| [16:04] | <nerochiaro> | latest branch from that software line (non-QT based) is called "torfu". and trunk is the new QT-based stuff. but kernel is more or less the same. |
| [16:04] | <josh1> | nerochiaro: It look's something like this "BSH8YN108287-390" It might be labeled as FCC ID... |
| [16:04] | <nerochiaro> | gremlin[it]: but use either torfu or trunk, so we are sure |
| [16:05] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: i don't see any like that on the unit itself |
| [16:05] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: there's the usual FCC statement that it complies to section #15 of the FCC rules and so on |
| [16:07] | <josh1> | nerochiaro: hmmm, I know that many user manuals sometimes have a page in them for the FCC info... |
| [16:08] | <gremlin[it]> | nerochiaro ok ... now try with 'torfu' ... that remember 'tofu' ... HAHAH |
| [16:09] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: i don't have manuals here, sorry. i was sent it as a developer unit, without the retail box. i'm asking another GUI here in Neuros, he may know it. hold on a second |
| [16:09] | <josh1> | nerochiaro: thank you |
| [16:09] | <nerochiaro> | gremlin[it]: yeah, it was kind of a joke acronym, since lot of neuros devs are in china |
| [16:12] | <gremlin[it]> | hahah ... neuros organize and internal championship of go ??? |
| [16:12] | <nerochiaro> | hope not, i'm terrible at go :D |
| [16:12] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: he's checking the FCC certification |
| [16:13] | <JoeBorn> | hi all |
| [16:14] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: hi |
| [16:14] | <JoeBorn> | hey nerochiaro |
| [16:14] | <JoeBorn> | how are things? |
| [16:15] | <nerochiaro> | going crazy trying to fix some bugs in the software, everything else if fine |
| [16:15] | <JoeBorn> | what kind of bugs? |
| [16:15] | <JoeBorn> | that shoutcast thing is pretty exciting, I'm looking forward to playing with that |
| [16:15] | <nerochiaro> | windows that should not take background from parents but instead do |
| [16:16] | <JoeBorn> | how are things looking on AZ generally. |
| [16:16] | <nerochiaro> | john just prettyfied the GUI a lot and is very nice. we're a bit behind on schedule and rushing for the chinese new year deadline |
| [16:17] | <nerochiaro> | tom is on on getting us a more proper window manager, and we're finishing up the network browsing |
| [16:17] | <nerochiaro> | stuff is happening, in other words |
| [16:18] | <JoeBorn> | that's good. |
| [16:18] | <JoeBorn> | ljp: AZ is our codename for the QT release in case you didn't know. |
| [16:19] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: as we said, it could be happening faster, but still i'm pretty pleased with the direction, if not with the speed |
| [16:19] | <JoeBorn> | any thoughts on the speed thing? |
| [16:19] | <nerochiaro> | speed as in GUI performance ? |
| [16:20] | <nerochiaro> | or speed as in dev speed |
| [16:20] | <JoeBorn> | no, well that's another question, but no I meant pace of developmentn |
| [16:22] | <nerochiaro> | current slowdown is probably happening because there are/were a few things that require mine or tom's attention and are holding up other work from team. that's why i'm still here working ;) |
| [16:23] | <nerochiaro> | and things also slowed down a lot with winter vacations, i have to say |
| [16:33] | <nerochiaro> | josh1: seems the FCC report is pretty thick, no answer yet |
| [16:33] | <JoeBorn> | nerochiaro: do you think it would be possible to replace vacation taking humans with programming bots or something? |
| [16:34] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: if you happen to find some good programming bots, send them my way. we can use them even when we are not on vacation |
| [16:34] | <nerochiaro> | they don't even want to get paid, i hear |
| [16:35] | <JoeBorn> | excellent, I'll look into it. |
| [16:35] | <ljp> | interns are usually good for that :) |
| [16:36] | <nerochiaro> | on the other hand, i just discovered that a minor health condition i suffer has the coolest name ever in medical science: en.wikipedia.org |
| [16:47] | <JoeBorn> | "it is sometimes distressing to experience" |
| [16:47] | <JoeBorn> | wow, I can imagine it is distressing! |
| [16:48] | <ljp> | have kids and you'll experience much the same thing several times a day |
| [16:48] | <nerochiaro> | at the start it really scared me, but i'm used to it now. thankfully i get it only before falling asleep, it never wakes me up |
| [16:50] | <nerochiaro> | ljp: i assume with actual painful headaches too |
| [16:50] | <ljp> | yep |
| [16:51] | <ljp> | but that might come from bainging ones head against a wall, desk, or other object |
| [16:51] | <ljp> | banging, that is |
| [17:46] | <JoeBorn> | MattJ100: you see this |
| [17:46] | <JoeBorn> | www.tvsquad.com |
| [18:51] | <josh1> | nerochiaro: might it be easier if I were to send an email to "General Information" email address for the Neuros? |
| [18:53] | <nerochiaro> | probably not. but send me an email to nerochiaro at neuros dot us with more info on that code you're looking at (or any other FCC info). i'll forward internally and keep you in the CC loop, so anything we find will get to you |
| [18:53] | <josh1> | Thank You very much! |
| [18:54] | <nerochiaro> | you're welcome |
| [20:07] | <JoeBorn> | open.neurostechnology.com |
| [20:16] | <may1937> | JoeBorn: really cool |