[00:06]	<chreekat>	Well I have all the hardware I need, now I just need to set them all up
[00:06]	<chreekat>	I got a thinkpad t42 *and* a fairly recent thinkcentre for a total of 725 yesterday
[07:53]	<nicholas_>	'afternoon
[08:29]	<MattJ100>	mcr: Around?
[12:37]	<gremlin[it]>	good evening all !
[12:57]	<MattJ>	Hi gremlin[it] :)
[12:57]	<MattJ>	daurnimator:
[13:47]	<mcr>	hi.
[13:48]	<MattJ>	mcr: :)
[13:49]	<MattJ>	mcr: You said you had problems with the OSD ending recordings early
[13:49]	<MattJ>	mcr: What media do you record to?
[14:46]	<mcr>	hi, I'm recording to NFS server.
[14:46]	<mcr>	It's a NetBSD domU.
[15:08]	<gremlin[it]>	mhhh i'm still becoming crazy with nfsroot ... if i pass to kernel 'init=/foobar' where /foobar don't exist i got the error "Failed to execute /foobar. Attempting defaults..."
[15:09]	<gremlin[it]>	if i don't give init= or i give to an executable (sucj as /sbin/init or /bin/sulogin) nothing seem to happen ... :(
[15:24]	<gremlin[it]>	mhhh doing a tcpdump (about) i notice nfs is mounted but stop to comunicate after a few :( ...
[16:16]	<crweb>	gremlin[it]: this probably due to GUI resetting network IP
[16:16]	<crweb>	gremlin[it]: before netbooting, go into gui and set IP to static, this will solve issue
[16:19]	<gremlin[it]>	io is good ... i work only from u-boot ... fdownload kernel via tftp and after mount rootfs via nfs ...
[16:19]	<gremlin[it]>	io->ip
[16:22]	<gremlin[it]>	g' night!
[16:35]	<nick_fn_>	Hi. Does anyone know the state of streaming from the OSD to some mplayer running elsewhere?
[18:44]	<MattJ>	crweb: Around? Awake even?
[18:45]	<crweb>	yes
[18:45]	<crweb>	I'm in and out of the room, i'll chat best as possible :)
[18:46]	<MattJ>	np :)
[18:46]	<MattJ>	It's been a while since we last spoke, and I'm not much closer to working out how to make a GUI app
[18:46]	<MattJ>	If I write one in standard Qt, will it be easy to get onto the OSD later?
[18:47]	<crweb>	yes
[18:47]	<crweb>	you can just place it on media card and exec
[18:47]	<MattJ>	Wow
[18:47]	<MattJ>	That is good news
[18:48]	<MattJ>	Are there any guidelines on the size I should make my window, and what controls I can/can't use?
[18:48]	<crweb>	if the toolkit build it you do whatever you want
[18:50]	<MattJ>	I tried to build for example the "More Applications" app
[18:50]	<MattJ>	with Qt
[18:50]	<MattJ>	A load of errors such as: ui_moreapps.h:21:27: error: nmenulistview.h: No such file or directory
[18:50]	<MattJ>	I'm not sure if I am missing some step
[18:51]	<crweb>	well, our apps link to libneux
[18:52]	<MattJ>	Any idea how I can specify to link to that? and the include dir?
[18:52]	<MattJ>	I simply ran qmake; make
[18:52]	<MattJ>	in more-apps/
[18:52]	<crweb>	running qmake runs your OS's qmake
[18:52]	<crweb>	not the toolchain qmake
[18:52]	<crweb>	you should source neuros-env
[18:52]	<crweb>	and use nqmake
[18:55]	<MattJ>	But that will build it for the OSD?
[18:56]	<MattJ>	Since I'm not running AZ on my OSD, my goal was to link with Qt on my PC
[18:56]	<MattJ>	Unless you mean the app will run on the current firmware if linked right
[18:56]	<MattJ>	brb
[18:58]	<crweb>	then you can't use the app directly without the library widgets
[19:08]	<crweb>	i do all my dev on the PC then move it over
[19:08]	<crweb>	you dont need to use the neuros lib though
[19:08]	<crweb>	it just has things like a "consistant menu"
[19:08]	<crweb>	and custom message boxes
[19:08]	<crweb>	you can use qt just the same in its pure form
[19:19]	<MattJ>	I just can't work out how to get it to build nicely
[19:26]	<MattJ>	With nqmake: qcopchannel_qws.h: No such file or directory
[19:32]	<crweb>	oh
[19:32]	<crweb>	you need to stick with normal qt
[19:32]	<crweb>	don't worry so much about copy and pasting the neuros apps
[19:32]	<crweb>	if you are looking to "play with qt on your pc"
[19:33]	<crweb>	if you want to start real app dev. you'll need trolltech's qtopia
[19:33]	<crweb>	its in Neuros-Cooler/external-libs/qtopia/dists
[19:33]	<MattJ>	I want to make an app that will work on the OSD
[19:33]	<MattJ>	But for now do the development on my PC
[19:34]	<crweb>	you can just use your normal qt
[19:34]	<crweb>	with your qmake
[19:34]	<MattJ>	Ok
[19:34]	<crweb>	build an app, comepile it view it etc
[19:34]	<crweb>	later when moving to OSD, very few changes have to be made
[19:34]	<MattJ>	Then I guess none of the Neuros apps will work, since they depend on other libs?
[19:35]	<crweb>	right
[19:35]	<MattJ>	kk
[19:35]	<crweb>	you would have to strip it of anything in a neuros header etc
[19:35]	<MattJ>	Got it
[19:35]	<crweb>	eventually we'll have a PC port
[19:35]	<crweb>	just don't have time in this stage
[19:37]	<MattJ>	Is there a certain size I should make the frame of my app?
[19:37]	<MattJ>	Just so I don't have to lay everything out again when I move it to the OSD
[20:26]	<daurnimator>	MattJ:
[20:28]	<MattJ>	:)
[20:28]	<MattJ>	I wondered how far you got with the podcast downloaded
[20:28]	<MattJ>	*downloader
[20:43]	<daurnimator>	ha
[20:43]	<daurnimator>	I can't remember
[20:43]	<daurnimator>	I haven't done any coding since new years
[20:44]	<daurnimator>	I nearly finished the podcast "library" in lua
[20:44]	* Xorlev  rolls into channel
[20:44]	* MattJ  unrolls Xorlev
[20:44]	<daurnimator>	and I needed to figure out what you actually wanted me to do from there
[20:44]	<Xorlev>	Man, you're cramping my style.
[20:44]	<daurnimator>	I can send it to you if you want
[20:44]	<MattJ>	Please do
[20:44]	<daurnimator>	or can I..... I can't access my dev drive from windows
[20:46]	<MattJ>	m w i l d 1 @ g m a i l . c o m
[20:46]	<MattJ>	Looks pretty :)
[20:46]	<daurnimator>	?
[20:46]	<MattJ100>	Grr, network cable came out again
[20:47]	<MattJ100>	Wi... Wind... Windows?? :O
[20:47]	<daurnimator>	you can't game in linux
[20:47]	<MattJ100>	Ah, I can't remember the last time I played a game :)
[20:47]	<daurnimator>	I bought TF2 >.<
[20:48]	<MattJ100>	TF2?
[20:48]	<daurnimator>	Team Fortress 2
[20:48]	<MattJ100>	Ah... I knew that (not)
[21:08]	<Xorlev>	daurnimator: Played Portal yet?
[21:09]	<daurnimator>	I played that (illegally) when it came out
[21:09]	<Xorlev>	If you have HL2, download the Zombie Master mod.
[21:14]	<daurnimator>	I still need to finish HL2
[21:14]	<daurnimator>	I have bought it though
[21:17]	<Xorlev>	Zombie Master is tons of fun. Mix of a RPG (for the ZM) and FPS (for the survivors of the Zombie Apocalypse)
[21:17]	<Xorlev>	Anyways, OT.
[21:19]	<Xorlev>	Err. RPG = RTS
[22:38]	<MattJ>	daurnimator: I'm off to bed
[22:39]	<MattJ>	When you run out of lives, email me the script(s)
[22:39]	<MattJ>	Plenty to do until then though :)
[22:39]	<daurnimator>	instaspawn actually now :)
[22:39]	<MattJ>	^^