| [01:56] | <JoeBorn> | hi everybody |
| [01:57] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: hi there |
| [01:57] | <JoeBorn> | nerochiaro: how goes it? |
| [01:57] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: just read the news from Corlin, pretty uplifting stuff |
| [01:57] | <JoeBorn> | Collin, I think you mean |
| [01:57] | <nerochiaro> | i'm busting out the Chinese tea to celebrate |
| [01:57] | <nerochiaro> | yeah, Collin |
| [01:58] | <JoeBorn> | so far '08 is off to a good start |
| [01:58] | <JoeBorn> | of course the NyTimes bump won't last, but hopefully with AZ, etc and more news we can continue to build momentum |
| [02:00] | <JoeBorn> | should we post news of MattJ100 's new package manager on OdNT? |
| [02:00] | <nerochiaro> | well, at least that gave us a good bust of sales |
| [02:00] | <nerochiaro> | always helps |
| [02:01] | <nerochiaro> | JoeBorn: regarding the package manager, sure, why not ? |
| [02:02] | <JoeBorn> | do you feel comfortable doing it. I'm not sure that I do |
| [02:02] | <nerochiaro> | please explain |
| [02:02] | <nerochiaro> | you mean writing the actual text ? |
| [02:04] | <JoeBorn> | yeah. |
| [02:04] | <nerochiaro> | i can do that |
| [02:04] | <JoeBorn> | It's just hard for me since I don't really understand it very well |
| [02:04] | <JoeBorn> | of course, this has never stopped me before :) |
| [02:05] | <JoeBorn> | I have never felt bound by actual understanding of the subjects of my posts |
| [02:05] | <nerochiaro> | i noticed that,but that's what journalism is all about anyway, no ? ;) |
| [02:06] | <nerochiaro> | i'll type it up, don't worry |
| [13:27] | <gremlin[it]> | hi all |
| [13:29] | <orion-uk> | hi gremlin :) |
| [13:36] | <gremlin[it]> | hi orion-uk ! |
| [13:36] | <orion-uk> | :) u got time for a q about recording on osd? |
| [13:37] | <orion-uk> | RE: forums.neurostechnology.com |
| [13:47] | <gremlin[it]> | really don't know orion-uk, I barelly use my neuros ... |
| [13:47] | <Orion> | ok np..thanx anyways :) |
| [15:11] | <gremlin[it]> | ping nerochiaro |
| [19:25] | <orion-uk> | hay mattj :) |
| [19:25] | <MattJ> | Hi orion-uk :) |
| [19:25] | <MattJ> | Lying in wait for me :P |
| [19:26] | <MattJ> | Thanks for the email |
| [19:26] | <orion-uk> | lol...dont panic...no stalkers here..lol |
| [19:26] | <orion-uk> | np |
| [19:26] | <orion-uk> | hjow u doing? |
| [19:27] | <MattJ> | Well thanks, and you? |
| [19:27] | <orion-uk> | gd yah.. am messing with recordings on osd..... |
| [19:27] | <MattJ> | Oh yes |
| [19:27] | <MattJ> | Regarding the problem with the Schedule tab... |
| [19:28] | <orion-uk> | aint it funny how when you try to reproduce an error all goes well!..lol |
| [19:28] | <orion-uk> | k.. |
| [19:28] | <MattJ> | If it happens when you have scheduled recordings set, would you be able to send me your .recordings file? |
| [19:28] | <MattJ> | It is the file that the OSD stores info about all the recordings in |
| [19:28] | <MattJ> | /mnt/OSD/.recordings |
| [19:29] | <MattJ> | It won't show up with ls (files with a . at the front are hidden by default) |
| [19:29] | <orion-uk> | no prob.. whats command to unhide? |
| [19:29] | <MattJ> | cat /mnt/OSD/.recordings <-- if you want to print it to your telnet screen |
| [19:29] | <orion-uk> | will schedule a recording and go for it now if u like? |
| [19:30] | <MattJ> | cp /mnt/OSD/.recordings /media/USB/recordings <--- If you think it would be easier to copy it to USB for example |
| [19:30] | <MattJ> | Ok |
| [19:31] | <orion-uk> | while u wait.. look at this post (if u dont mind) ..now im trying to reproduce what greyback said, everythings working fine !!! well, its been recording for nearly 2 hours so far anyways..lol |
| [19:31] | <orion-uk> | forums.neurostechnology.com |
| [19:33] | <MattJ> | lol |
| [19:34] | <MattJ> | It happened to me yesterday on a scheduled recording |
| [19:34] | <MattJ> | Chopped about 20 min from 1h10m |
| [19:34] | <MattJ> | Hmm 25 min |
| [19:34] | <orion-uk> | mmm |
| [19:35] | <orion-uk> | got a few ideas...will do this for u then share wem... |
| [19:35] | <MattJ> | Email me the recordings file if you like |
| [19:36] | <MattJ> | Oh |
| [19:36] | <MattJ> | and a temporary fix for the Browse tab... |
| [19:37] | <MattJ> | In telnet, type: mkdir /media/bookmark |
| [19:41] | <Orion> | pastebin.ca |
| [19:42] | <Orion> | is that ok? |
| [19:42] | <MattJ> | Perfect, thanks |
| [19:42] | <Orion> | i was kinda near the bookmark idea myself.. i put a folder in osdroot for some reason! |
| [19:42] | <Orion> | lol |
| [19:42] | <MattJ> | I spotted the problem already |
| [19:43] | <Orion> | ok? |
| [19:43] | <MattJ> | There is a line that says [Recording 8] |
| [19:43] | <MattJ> | For some reason it is empty |
| [19:43] | <Orion> | k. |
| [19:44] | <MattJ> | My code doesn't expect a recording to not have a filename, and that is why the error occurs |
| [19:44] | <Orion> | oh i see :) |
| [19:45] | <Orion> | btw did u read the link i gave you to forum page... i did the dmesg as greyback said and have the output if it will help you with your recording issue! |
| [19:46] | <Orion> | pastebin.ca |
| [19:48] | <orion-uk> | ok... run the web interface... browse working fine now ;-> |
| [19:49] | <MattJ> | Yay :) |
| [19:49] | <MattJ> | That dmesg output doesn't seem to show any errors |
| [19:49] | <vmarks> | wooble! |
| [19:49] | <MattJ> | Unless this like is abnormal: bufmgr_hold_buffer:387> BUFMGR(KM): Holding buffer 0x00000000 not in used list |
| [19:49] | <MattJ> | *line |
| [19:49] | <MattJ> | wooble! |
| [19:51] | <orion-uk> | the lack of errors may be becouse i did dmesg after the bloomin thing started working fine again..recorded for over 2 hours before i stopped recording to set up the scheduled recording for you!...is what i was saying b4..lol about things not going wrong when trying to debug..lol |
| [19:51] | <orion-uk> | soz wooble? |
| [19:52] | <MattJ> | orion-uk: The name of the web interface :) |
| [19:52] | <MattJ> | I didn't know what to call it, so vmarks named it :) |
| [19:52] | <orion-uk> | i saw the not in used and it did stick out at me but i dont know what im doing so ignored it..lol |
| [19:52] | <orion-uk> | lol..wooble is a guy in wiki...rotflmao |
| [19:53] | <orion-uk> | what did u think of the other stuff i mentioned in email? |
| [19:53] | <MattJ> | brb |
| [19:53] | <orion-uk> | k |
| [19:56] | <orion-uk> | bte.. wooble display in firefox is dead centre.. in ie7 its tight left for me..just incase u need to know! |
| [19:59] | <orion-uk> | back 2 browse... browsing folders... (usb) works a dream... (network) displaying media in: blah blah blah... nothing shows. |
| [19:59] | <MattJ> | (obvious question alert) do you have any shares on your network? :) |
| [20:00] | <orion-uk> | lol..yah a few |
| [20:00] | <orion-uk> | osd finds them ok. |
| [20:01] | <MattJ> | Go to Play.Browse->Network->[Some PC]-> Share list |
| [20:01] | <MattJ> | Open a share |
| [20:01] | <MattJ> | Then look back in wooble's browse tab, does it show anything now? |
| [20:02] | <orion-uk> | my turn. for ob q.. on osd?..lol |
| [20:02] | <MattJ> | ;) |
| [20:03] | <orion-uk> | hhmmm! |
| [20:04] | <orion-uk> | think i need a reboot oslt.. the network folder for my base unit is missing but was ok to browse b4... 1sec |
| [20:04] | <MattJ> | Ok |
| [20:05] | <MattJ> | You sure do have a lot of strange problems :) |
| [20:06] | <orion-uk> | lol... tis the chaos of having alot to do and not much time to do things in..wife demanding of my time..so is life..lol...and i have the mem of a gold fish..lol |
| [20:06] | <orion-uk> | :) |
| [20:07] | <orion-uk> | think an app i was using to convert video was draining resources oslt!.. the shares are there now apps closed and i didnt reboot! |
| [20:08] | <orion-uk> | yah .. they there in wooble now too! |
| [20:08] | <MattJ> | Great :) |
| [20:08] | <orion-uk> | was using an app called turnbite to convert mp4`s |
| [20:09] | <orion-uk> | oik... |
| [20:09] | <orion-uk> | not fully working only displays 1st folder contents.. second "seems" empty..but is not! |
| [20:09] | <orion-uk> | (in wooble) |
| [20:10] | <MattJ> | You need to open them on the OSD first |
| [20:10] | <orion-uk> | stranger still.. if i browse with osd remote to missing folders, then hit refresh in ffox..the folders appear! |
| [20:10] | <MattJ> | Yep :) |
| [20:10] | <orion-uk> | ok..lol |
| [20:10] | <MattJ> | That is because the OSD needs to log into them |
| [20:11] | <orion-uk> | be warned..u may get a few dumb comments from orion-NoOb..rotflmao ;-> |
| [20:11] | <orion-uk> | oh ok. |
| [20:11] | <MattJ> | It's not dumb, there is a bug report for it :) |
| [20:11] | <orion-uk> | so i would need to take remote to work with me aswell then ;-) |
| [20:12] | <orion-uk> | te he |
| [20:12] | <MattJ> | You just need to do it the once |
| [20:12] | <MattJ> | It is what the Remote Control tab in wooble is useful for :) |
| [20:12] | <orion-uk> | you have |
| [20:12] | <MattJ> | Which... isn't working for you either :| |
| [20:12] | <MattJ> | Now to that... |
| [20:12] | <orion-uk> | my email about that paret ayh? |
| [20:12] | <orion-uk> | k |
| [20:12] | <orion-uk> | ... |
| [20:13] | <MattJ> | In telnet, type: screenshot |
| [20:14] | <orion-uk> | need to give it an output path oslt.... usage message comes up..1sec |
| [20:14] | <MattJ> | Ok, so you have that |
| [20:14] | <MattJ> | Then I'm not sure what the problem is |
| [20:14] | <orion-uk> | u want me 2 type the message? |
| [20:15] | <MattJ> | Does it say "Quick screenshot tool"? |
| [20:15] | <orion-uk> | could it be a yes |
| [20:15] | <orion-uk> | .. |
| [20:15] | <orion-uk> | lol..typo.. |
| [20:15] | <orion-uk> | yes it does |
| [20:16] | <MattJ> | Hmm |
| [20:16] | <MattJ> | Where is your osdroot now? USD? |
| [20:16] | <orion-uk> | could it be a java issue? |
| [20:16] | <MattJ> | er... USB? |
| [20:16] | <MattJ> | Java? :o |
| [20:16] | <MattJ> | No Java here :) |
| [20:16] | <orion-uk> | media/USB/osdroot |
| [20:17] | <MattJ> | ls /media/USB/osdroot/screen.jpg |
| [20:17] | <MattJ> | Does it come back blank? or say "screen.jpg?" |
| [20:18] | <orion-uk> | says no such file or dir |
| [20:18] | <MattJ> | Ok... |
| [20:19] | <orion-uk> | RE: java.. remote page says requires javascript) could it be a prob with my java installation) does it work on yours ok? |
| [20:19] | <MattJ> | Oh |
| [20:20] | <MattJ> | Java is nothing to do with Javascript (confusingly) :) |
| [20:20] | <orion-uk> | lol |
| [20:20] | <orion-uk> | ok |
| [20:20] | <MattJ> | You wouldn't get the error box pop up if you had no Javascript |
| [20:20] | <orion-uk> | k |
| [20:21] | <orion-uk> | what u want me 2 do now? |
| [20:21] | <MattJ> | How did you start the web interface? |
| [20:22] | <orion-uk> | . ./setup.sh lpkg control luaetta start |
| [20:22] | <MattJ> | Ok, that is fine |
| [20:22] | <orion-uk> | btw.. |
| [20:23] | <orion-uk> | i found a file called luaetta in a folder on my desktop... was it needed for anythiong as i dont seem to have that in osdroot ? |
| [20:23] | <MattJ> | On your PC? |
| [20:23] | <MattJ> | luaetta is in osdroot/bin/ |
| [20:23] | <orion-uk> | file is on pc |
| [20:24] | <MattJ> | Don't think you need that |
| [20:24] | <orion-uk> | on osd? |
| [20:24] | <MattJ> | Yeah |
| [20:24] | <orion-uk> | yah its there.. |
| [20:25] | <orion-uk> | my idea about recordings... |
| [20:26] | <orion-uk> | when my recordings location is empty, thats when i get most recording errors.. noticed 2day that after about 4-5-6 attempts of recording in a row (without deleting previos recording) things then run smoothly..or am i just picvking at straws? |
| [20:27] | <MattJ> | My recording location is most certainly not empty :) |
| [20:27] | <orion-uk> | :-) "strwas" te he he |
| [20:28] | <orion-uk> | straws even! |
| [20:28] | <orion-uk> | trying to type and role a smoke..lol |
| [20:28] | <orion-uk> | just a thought! |
| [20:28] | <MattJ> | lol |
| [20:30] | <orion-uk> | is there a way of getting an more detailed error report of the error that happens when i use controls on remote page..also ...any idea why i dont see anything when selecting view OSD screen? |
| [20:31] | <MattJ> | I'm thinking about it |
| [20:31] | <orion-uk> | i dont know what you have/have not completed u c. |
| [20:31] | <orion-uk> | k |
| [20:31] | <MattJ> | Paste this into telnet: |
| [20:31] | <Orion> | k |
| [20:32] | <MattJ> | echo 'function onRequest() print(os.getenv("PKGROOT")) end' > /media/USB/osdroot/var/www/pkgroot.lua |
| [20:32] | <MattJ> | Then go to http://<your OSD>/pkgroot.lua |
| [20:33] | <MattJ> | and tell me what it says |
| [20:33] | <Orion> | soz, was in loo..lol |
| [20:33] | <Orion> | will do.. |
| [20:34] | <Orion> | no feedback given |
| [20:34] | <MattJ> | Ok |
| [20:34] | <MattJ> | Paste this: |
| [20:34] | <MattJ> | echo 'function onRequest() print(os.getenv("PKGROOT") or "Not set") end' > /media/USB/osdroot/var/www/pkgroot.lua |
| [20:34] | <MattJ> | and look again |
| [20:35] | <Orion> | none given again... look again in wooble or telnet? |
| [20:35] | <MattJ> | In http://<your OSD>/pkgroot.lua |
| [20:37] | <MattJ> | brb |
| [20:38] | <Orion> | got blank page with following txt on top left: /media/USB/osdroot |
| [20:38] | <Orion> | k |
| [20:41] | <MattJ> | Strange |
| [20:41] | <MattJ> | That is correct |
| [20:41] | <Orion> | ? |
| [20:41] | <MattJ> | I was expecting it to say "Not set" for some reason |
| [20:42] | <MattJ> | That would cause the OSD remote control to fail |
| [20:42] | <Orion> | ok |
| [20:44] | <MattJ> | Very hard to know what is happening without reproducing it on my PC/OSD :/ |
| [20:45] | <Orion> | yah.. dont have to worry about it unless you want to? |
| [20:45] | <MattJ> | I don't let bugs slip through my net :) |
| [20:45] | <Orion> | ;-) |
| [20:46] | <Orion> | so your wooble fully working (and just me with "issues" or is it work in progress? |
| [20:46] | <MattJ> | Oh my |
| [20:46] | <vmarks> | both. it's a work in progress, and it's just you. |
| [20:46] | * vmarks is so cruel. | |
| [20:46] | <MattJ> | I'm so stupid... I know the problem now :) |
| [20:46] | <MattJ> | brb |
| [20:47] | <Orion> | lol.. |
| [20:47] | <Orion> | do go on.. |
| [20:47] | <Orion> | k |
| [20:47] | <MattJ> | (enjoy the suspense :P ) |
| [20:47] | <Orion> | lol....(enjoys) :> |
| [20:57] | <Orion> | 2 things... 1)when attempting to view ubuntu in network am asked for login details, wont accept my ubunutu login info as user or root! 2) in wooble browser, have no MMC-card, have browsed it in osd b4! |
| [21:06] | <Orion> | also.. not sure if u need to know! firmware used now is 3.33-1.73-04.81t |
| [21:16] | <MattJ> | Orion: I know how to get Ubuntu to work |
| [21:16] | <MattJ> | Just open a terminal |
| [21:16] | <MattJ> | (in Ubuntu) |
| [21:16] | <MattJ> | Type: smbpasswd |
| [21:17] | <MattJ> | Enter a password, and it will be used to access the shares |
| [21:17] | <MattJ> | The username is your Ubuntu username |
| [21:17] | <Orion> | was watching jeramy carl show..lol |
| [21:17] | <MattJ> | It means you can have a seperate password for the shares to your login |
| [21:17] | <MattJ> | k :) |
| [21:17] | <Orion> | sorry 2 keep u waiting..lol |
| [21:17] | <MattJ> | 10 min, and I'm off to bed anyway |
| [21:17] | <Orion> | ok |
| [21:18] | <MattJ> | btw, remote control is broken in wooble for me too :) |
| [21:18] | <MattJ> | I was actually using a different version for daily use |
| [21:18] | <MattJ> | I'll see how it can be fixed, and release an update |
| [21:20] | <orion-uk> | Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE |
| [21:20] | <orion-uk> | Failed to change password for orion-uk |
| [21:20] | <orion-uk> | orion-uk@orion-uk-Ubuntu:~$ |
| [21:20] | <MattJ> | Hmm |
| [21:20] | <MattJ> | sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| [21:21] | <orion-uk> | same error message! |
| [21:22] | <MattJ> | Hmm |
| [21:22] | <MattJ> | Now I really am sure that you attract these problems :D |
| [21:23] | <orion-uk> | lol...man.. u were right... soO many problems.. might just kill all my equipment and start again...lol |
| [21:23] | <MattJ> | "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" gave an error message? |
| [21:23] | <orion-uk> | :-) |
| [21:23] | <MattJ> | or smbpasswd did, a second time? |
| [21:23] | <orion-uk> | second time |
| [21:23] | <orion-uk> | smb restart whent fine :) |
| [21:23] | <MattJ> | Oki |
| [21:24] | <orion-uk> | funny that.. and when i want to, i cant reproduce the recording error..only when i dont want to..lol |
| [21:25] | <MattJ> | Try: |
| [21:25] | <MattJ> | sudo smbpasswd orion-uk |
| [21:26] | <orion-uk> | accepted that.. will try access on osd now.. |
| [21:27] | <MattJ> | k |
| [21:28] | <orion-uk> | cool, that worked...thanx :) do i need to enter login every time or just this time? |
| [21:29] | <MattJ> | It will stay logged in until you reboot the OSD |
| [21:29] | <MattJ> | Older firmwares then require you to log in from scratch |
| [21:29] | <orion-uk> | lol..btw.. am having same prob with (some) windows share but not all... have not set a psswrd 4 the shares! |
| [21:29] | <MattJ> | Newer ones save the login info, and you can just click "OK" |
| [21:29] | <MattJ> | No idea about the Windows ones :) |
| [21:30] | <orion-uk> | some are ok, just go straight in. |
| [21:30] | <orion-uk> | lol |
| [21:30] | <orion-uk> | np.. |
| [21:30] | <orion-uk> | you wanna keep looking at wooble or you wanna go off and chill/work/sleep? :-) |
| [21:31] | <MattJ> | I know what the problem is with remote control |
| [21:31] | <MattJ> | I need to work out how to fix it |
| [21:31] | <MattJ> | Scheduled recordings... you have a broken .recordings file |
| [21:31] | <orion-uk> | ok...was wondering why u shot of calling urself stupid!..far from it m8! :) |
| [21:31] | <MattJ> | The OSD ignores the broken part, so I think my code should too :) |
| [21:32] | <orion-uk> | ok |
| [21:32] | <MattJ> | No, I am stupid, I didn't test it enough before I released it :) |
| [21:33] | <MattJ> | The version I stayed using still worked fine, but didn't have some of the newer changes |
| [21:33] | <orion-uk> | well it gave me a chance to talk with u and learn more stuff ;-) thaty was worth something :> |
| [21:33] | <MattJ> | :) |
| [21:33] | <orion-uk> | you have been soO cool helping me, thanx so much :) |
| [21:33] | <MattJ> | np, I like to know someone is using my work :) |
| [21:33] | <orion-uk> | sorry i have taken up so much of ur time :-} |
| [21:34] | <MattJ> | It's fine |
| [21:34] | <orion-uk> | and apprieciating it :) |
| [21:34] | <MattJ> | The development took more time :) |
| [21:34] | <orion-uk> | well.. if u wanna get off for now its cool? |
| [21:34] | <orion-uk> | how long u been working on it? |
| [21:34] | <MattJ> | Since... hmm |
| [21:35] | <MattJ> | Good question :) |
| [21:35] | <orion-uk> | well... its looking gr8t anyways... guess u prob got loads of stuff on thew go aswell..lol |
| [21:36] | <orion-uk> | btw.. |
| [21:37] | <orion-uk> | was talking to a guy in japan (mr bard, j) told him u was helping me and hes said something about a pay raise..lol |
| [21:37] | <MattJ> | open.neurostechnology.com <-- 10th November |
| [21:37] | <MattJ> | JoeBorn :) |
| [21:37] | <orion-uk> | thats they guy.. told u i had a bad mem..lol |
| [21:38] | <orion-uk> | cvrweb asked 4 one too..lol |
| [21:38] | <orion-uk> | must be getting late .. my typos on hyper again..rotflmao@me :) |
| [21:38] | <MattJ> | lol |
| [21:39] | <orion-uk> | just checking out the link now.. |
| [21:40] | <MattJ> | 2 days earlier it looked like this: open.neurostechnology.com |
| [21:41] | <orion-uk> | cool.. moving along nicely then..shame i cant seem to get it..lol.. what u think im doing wrong? |
| [21:41] | <orion-uk> | looks perfect fore the job |
| [21:42] | <MattJ> | You aren't doing anything wrong |
| [21:42] | <orion-uk> | did you look at the bagster project i sent you ...tightvnc? |
| [21:42] | <orion-uk> | cool ;-) |
| [21:42] | <MattJ> | Yep, already used that :) |
| [21:42] | <MattJ> | I asked if he would make a package... no reply, I guess I'll make one |
| [21:42] | <orion-uk> | u like... have it running as we type.. |
| [21:43] | <orion-uk> | i did post on his page when i 1st tried to get it to work.. no reply either.. must have alot on. |
| [21:44] | <orion-uk> | it was on that night i REALLY needed sleep.. got it working in 2 mins the nxt day..lol |
| [21:44] | <MattJ> | heh |
| [21:44] | <orion-uk> | its my age :-/ |
| [21:45] | <orion-uk> | but ..on the good side, my wife is 10 yrs younger than me :-> |
| [21:45] | <orion-uk> | (shes24) :_) |
| [21:46] | <orion-uk> | had better let u go really m8? |
| [21:47] | <MattJ> | Kind of gone already -_- |
| [21:47] | <MattJ> | gn :) |
| [21:48] | <orion-uk> | lol.. go on buddy..go pull away those match sticks..lol |
| [21:48] | <orion-uk> | thanx again... |
| [21:48] | <orion-uk> | catch u l8trz ok |