[01:56] <JoeBorn> hi everybody
[01:57] <nerochiaro> JoeBorn: hi there
[01:57] <JoeBorn> nerochiaro: how goes it?
[01:57] <nerochiaro> JoeBorn: just read the news from Corlin, pretty uplifting stuff
[01:57] <JoeBorn> Collin, I think you mean
[01:57] <nerochiaro> i'm busting out the Chinese tea to celebrate
[01:57] <nerochiaro> yeah, Collin
[01:58] <JoeBorn> so far '08 is off to a good start
[01:58] <JoeBorn> of course the NyTimes bump won't last, but hopefully with AZ, etc and more news we can continue to build momentum
[02:00] <JoeBorn> should we post news of MattJ100 's new package manager on OdNT?
[02:00] <nerochiaro> well, at least that gave us a good bust of sales
[02:00] <nerochiaro> always helps
[02:01] <nerochiaro> JoeBorn: regarding the package manager, sure, why not ?
[02:02] <JoeBorn> do you feel comfortable doing it. I'm not sure that I do
[02:02] <nerochiaro> please explain
[02:02] <nerochiaro> you mean writing the actual text ?
[02:04] <JoeBorn> yeah.
[02:04] <nerochiaro> i can do that
[02:04] <JoeBorn> It's just hard for me since I don't really understand it very well
[02:04] <JoeBorn> of course, this has never stopped me before :)
[02:05] <JoeBorn> I have never felt bound by actual understanding of the subjects of my posts
[02:05] <nerochiaro> i noticed that,but that's what journalism is all about anyway, no ? ;)
[02:06] <nerochiaro> i'll type it up, don't worry
[13:27] <gremlin[it]> hi all
[13:29] <orion-uk> hi gremlin :)
[13:36] <gremlin[it]> hi orion-uk !
[13:36] <orion-uk> :) u got time for a q about recording on osd?
[13:37] <orion-uk> RE: forums.neurostechnology.com
[13:47] <gremlin[it]> really don't know orion-uk, I barelly use my neuros ...
[13:47] <Orion> ok np..thanx anyways :)
[15:11] <gremlin[it]> ping nerochiaro
[19:25] <orion-uk> hay mattj :)
[19:25] <MattJ> Hi orion-uk :)
[19:25] <MattJ> Lying in wait for me :P
[19:26] <MattJ> Thanks for the email
[19:26] <orion-uk> lol...dont panic...no stalkers here..lol
[19:26] <orion-uk> np
[19:26] <orion-uk> hjow u doing?
[19:27] <MattJ> Well thanks, and you?
[19:27] <orion-uk> gd yah.. am messing with recordings on osd.....
[19:27] <MattJ> Oh yes
[19:27] <MattJ> Regarding the problem with the Schedule tab...
[19:28] <orion-uk> aint it funny how when you try to reproduce an error all goes well!..lol
[19:28] <orion-uk> k..
[19:28] <MattJ> If it happens when you have scheduled recordings set, would you be able to send me your .recordings file?
[19:28] <MattJ> It is the file that the OSD stores info about all the recordings in
[19:28] <MattJ> /mnt/OSD/.recordings
[19:29] <MattJ> It won't show up with ls (files with a . at the front are hidden by default)
[19:29] <orion-uk> no prob.. whats command to unhide?
[19:29] <MattJ> cat /mnt/OSD/.recordings <-- if you want to print it to your telnet screen
[19:29] <orion-uk> will schedule a recording and go for it now if u like?
[19:30] <MattJ> cp /mnt/OSD/.recordings /media/USB/recordings <--- If you think it would be easier to copy it to USB for example
[19:30] <MattJ> Ok
[19:31] <orion-uk> while u wait.. look at this post (if u dont mind) ..now im trying to reproduce what greyback said, everythings working fine !!! well, its been recording for nearly 2 hours so far anyways..lol
[19:31] <orion-uk> forums.neurostechnology.com
[19:33] <MattJ> lol
[19:34] <MattJ> It happened to me yesterday on a scheduled recording
[19:34] <MattJ> Chopped about 20 min from 1h10m
[19:34] <MattJ> Hmm 25 min
[19:34] <orion-uk> mmm
[19:35] <orion-uk> got a few ideas...will do this for u then share wem...
[19:35] <MattJ> Email me the recordings file if you like
[19:36] <MattJ> Oh
[19:36] <MattJ> and a temporary fix for the Browse tab...
[19:37] <MattJ> In telnet, type: mkdir /media/bookmark
[19:41] <Orion> pastebin.ca
[19:42] <Orion> is that ok?
[19:42] <MattJ> Perfect, thanks
[19:42] <Orion> i was kinda near the bookmark idea myself.. i put a folder in osdroot for some reason!
[19:42] <Orion> lol
[19:42] <MattJ> I spotted the problem already
[19:43] <Orion> ok?
[19:43] <MattJ> There is a line that says [Recording 8]
[19:43] <MattJ> For some reason it is empty
[19:43] <Orion> k.
[19:44] <MattJ> My code doesn't expect a recording to not have a filename, and that is why the error occurs
[19:44] <Orion> oh i see :)
[19:45] <Orion> btw did u read the link i gave you to forum page... i did the dmesg as greyback said and have the output if it will help you with your recording issue!
[19:46] <Orion> pastebin.ca
[19:48] <orion-uk> ok... run the web interface... browse working fine now ;->
[19:49] <MattJ> Yay :)
[19:49] <MattJ> That dmesg output doesn't seem to show any errors
[19:49] <vmarks> wooble!
[19:49] <MattJ> Unless this like is abnormal: bufmgr_hold_buffer:387> BUFMGR(KM): Holding buffer 0x00000000 not in used list
[19:49] <MattJ> *line
[19:49] <MattJ> wooble!
[19:51] <orion-uk> the lack of errors may be becouse i did dmesg after the bloomin thing started working fine again..recorded for over 2 hours before i stopped recording to set up the scheduled recording for you!...is what i was saying b4..lol about things not going wrong when trying to debug..lol
[19:51] <orion-uk> soz wooble?
[19:52] <MattJ> orion-uk: The name of the web interface :)
[19:52] <MattJ> I didn't know what to call it, so vmarks named it :)
[19:52] <orion-uk> i saw the not in used and it did stick out at me but i dont know what im doing so ignored it..lol
[19:52] <orion-uk> lol..wooble is a guy in wiki...rotflmao
[19:53] <orion-uk> what did u think of the other stuff i mentioned in email?
[19:53] <MattJ> brb
[19:53] <orion-uk> k
[19:56] <orion-uk> bte.. wooble display in firefox is dead centre.. in ie7 its tight left for me..just incase u need to know!
[19:59] <orion-uk> back 2 browse... browsing folders... (usb) works a dream... (network) displaying media in: blah blah blah... nothing shows.
[19:59] <MattJ> (obvious question alert) do you have any shares on your network? :)
[20:00] <orion-uk> lol..yah a few
[20:00] <orion-uk> osd finds them ok.
[20:01] <MattJ> Go to Play.Browse->Network->[Some PC]-> Share list
[20:01] <MattJ> Open a share
[20:01] <MattJ> Then look back in wooble's browse tab, does it show anything now?
[20:02] <orion-uk> my turn. for ob q.. on osd?..lol
[20:02] <MattJ> ;)
[20:03] <orion-uk> hhmmm!
[20:04] <orion-uk> think i need a reboot oslt.. the network folder for my base unit is missing but was ok to browse b4... 1sec
[20:04] <MattJ> Ok
[20:05] <MattJ> You sure do have a lot of strange problems :)
[20:06] <orion-uk> lol... tis the chaos of having alot to do and not much time to do things in..wife demanding of my time..so is life..lol...and i have the mem of a gold fish..lol
[20:06] <orion-uk> :)
[20:07] <orion-uk> think an app i was using to convert video was draining resources oslt!.. the shares are there now apps closed and i didnt reboot!
[20:08] <orion-uk> yah .. they there in wooble now too!
[20:08] <MattJ> Great :)
[20:08] <orion-uk> was using an app called turnbite to convert mp4`s
[20:09] <orion-uk> oik...
[20:09] <orion-uk> not fully working only displays 1st folder contents.. second "seems" empty..but is not!
[20:09] <orion-uk> (in wooble)
[20:10] <MattJ> You need to open them on the OSD first
[20:10] <orion-uk> stranger still.. if i browse with osd remote to missing folders, then hit refresh in ffox..the folders appear!
[20:10] <MattJ> Yep :)
[20:10] <orion-uk> ok..lol
[20:10] <MattJ> That is because the OSD needs to log into them
[20:11] <orion-uk> be warned..u may get a few dumb comments from orion-NoOb..rotflmao ;->
[20:11] <orion-uk> oh ok.
[20:11] <MattJ> It's not dumb, there is a bug report for it :)
[20:11] <orion-uk> so i would need to take remote to work with me aswell then ;-)
[20:12] <orion-uk> te he
[20:12] <MattJ> You just need to do it the once
[20:12] <MattJ> It is what the Remote Control tab in wooble is useful for :)
[20:12] <orion-uk> you have
[20:12] <MattJ> Which... isn't working for you either :|
[20:12] <MattJ> Now to that...
[20:12] <orion-uk> my email about that paret ayh?
[20:12] <orion-uk> k
[20:12] <orion-uk> ...
[20:13] <MattJ> In telnet, type: screenshot
[20:14] <orion-uk> need to give it an output path oslt.... usage message comes up..1sec
[20:14] <MattJ> Ok, so you have that
[20:14] <MattJ> Then I'm not sure what the problem is
[20:14] <orion-uk> u want me 2 type the message?
[20:15] <MattJ> Does it say "Quick screenshot tool"?
[20:15] <orion-uk> could it be a yes
[20:15] <orion-uk> ..
[20:15] <orion-uk> lol..typo..
[20:15] <orion-uk> yes it does
[20:16] <MattJ> Hmm
[20:16] <MattJ> Where is your osdroot now? USD?
[20:16] <orion-uk> could it be a java issue?
[20:16] <MattJ> er... USB?
[20:16] <MattJ> Java? :o
[20:16] <MattJ> No Java here :)
[20:16] <orion-uk> media/USB/osdroot
[20:17] <MattJ> ls /media/USB/osdroot/screen.jpg
[20:17] <MattJ> Does it come back blank? or say "screen.jpg?"
[20:18] <orion-uk> says no such file or dir
[20:18] <MattJ> Ok...
[20:19] <orion-uk> RE: java.. remote page says requires javascript) could it be a prob with my java installation) does it work on yours ok?
[20:19] <MattJ> Oh
[20:20] <MattJ> Java is nothing to do with Javascript (confusingly) :)
[20:20] <orion-uk> lol
[20:20] <orion-uk> ok
[20:20] <MattJ> You wouldn't get the error box pop up if you had no Javascript
[20:20] <orion-uk> k
[20:21] <orion-uk> what u want me 2 do now?
[20:21] <MattJ> How did you start the web interface?
[20:22] <orion-uk> . ./setup.sh lpkg control luaetta start
[20:22] <MattJ> Ok, that is fine
[20:22] <orion-uk> btw..
[20:23] <orion-uk> i found a file called luaetta in a folder on my desktop... was it needed for anythiong as i dont seem to have that in osdroot ?
[20:23] <MattJ> On your PC?
[20:23] <MattJ> luaetta is in osdroot/bin/
[20:23] <orion-uk> file is on pc
[20:24] <MattJ> Don't think you need that
[20:24] <orion-uk> on osd?
[20:24] <MattJ> Yeah
[20:24] <orion-uk> yah its there..
[20:25] <orion-uk> my idea about recordings...
[20:26] <orion-uk> when my recordings location is empty, thats when i get most recording errors.. noticed 2day that after about 4-5-6 attempts of recording in a row (without deleting previos recording) things then run smoothly..or am i just picvking at straws?
[20:27] <MattJ> My recording location is most certainly not empty :)
[20:27] <orion-uk> :-) "strwas" te he he
[20:28] <orion-uk> straws even!
[20:28] <orion-uk> trying to type and role a smoke..lol
[20:28] <orion-uk> just a thought!
[20:28] <MattJ> lol
[20:30] <orion-uk> is there a way of getting an more detailed error report of the error that happens when i use controls on remote page..also ...any idea why i dont see anything when selecting view OSD screen?
[20:31] <MattJ> I'm thinking about it
[20:31] <orion-uk> i dont know what you have/have not completed u c.
[20:31] <orion-uk> k
[20:31] <MattJ> Paste this into telnet:
[20:31] <Orion> k
[20:32] <MattJ> echo 'function onRequest() print(os.getenv("PKGROOT")) end' > /media/USB/osdroot/var/www/pkgroot.lua
[20:32] <MattJ> Then go to http://<your OSD>/pkgroot.lua
[20:33] <MattJ> and tell me what it says
[20:33] <Orion> soz, was in loo..lol
[20:33] <Orion> will do..
[20:34] <Orion> no feedback given
[20:34] <MattJ> Ok
[20:34] <MattJ> Paste this:
[20:34] <MattJ> echo 'function onRequest() print(os.getenv("PKGROOT") or "Not set") end' > /media/USB/osdroot/var/www/pkgroot.lua
[20:34] <MattJ> and look again
[20:35] <Orion> none given again... look again in wooble or telnet?
[20:35] <MattJ> In http://<your OSD>/pkgroot.lua
[20:37] <MattJ> brb
[20:38] <Orion> got blank page with following txt on top left: /media/USB/osdroot
[20:38] <Orion> k
[20:41] <MattJ> Strange
[20:41] <MattJ> That is correct
[20:41] <Orion> ?
[20:41] <MattJ> I was expecting it to say "Not set" for some reason
[20:42] <MattJ> That would cause the OSD remote control to fail
[20:42] <Orion> ok
[20:44] <MattJ> Very hard to know what is happening without reproducing it on my PC/OSD :/
[20:45] <Orion> yah.. dont have to worry about it unless you want to?
[20:45] <MattJ> I don't let bugs slip through my net :)
[20:45] <Orion> ;-)
[20:46] <Orion> so your wooble fully working (and just me with "issues" or is it work in progress?
[20:46] <MattJ> Oh my
[20:46] <vmarks> both. it's a work in progress, and it's just you.
[20:46] * vmarks  is so cruel.
[20:46] <MattJ> I'm so stupid... I know the problem now :)
[20:46] <MattJ> brb
[20:47] <Orion> lol..
[20:47] <Orion> do go on..
[20:47] <Orion> k
[20:47] <MattJ> (enjoy the suspense :P )
[20:47] <Orion> lol....(enjoys) :>
[20:57] <Orion> 2 things... 1)when attempting to view ubuntu in network am asked for login details, wont accept my ubunutu login info as user or root! 2) in wooble browser, have no MMC-card, have browsed it in osd b4!
[21:06] <Orion> also.. not sure if u need to know! firmware used now is 3.33-1.73-04.81t
[21:16] <MattJ> Orion: I know how to get Ubuntu to work
[21:16] <MattJ> Just open a terminal
[21:16] <MattJ> (in Ubuntu)
[21:16] <MattJ> Type: smbpasswd
[21:17] <MattJ> Enter a password, and it will be used to access the shares
[21:17] <MattJ> The username is your Ubuntu username
[21:17] <Orion> was watching jeramy carl show..lol
[21:17] <MattJ> It means you can have a seperate password for the shares to your login
[21:17] <MattJ> k :)
[21:17] <Orion> sorry 2 keep u waiting..lol
[21:17] <MattJ> 10 min, and I'm off to bed anyway
[21:17] <Orion> ok
[21:18] <MattJ> btw, remote control is broken in wooble for me too :)
[21:18] <MattJ> I was actually using a different version for daily use
[21:18] <MattJ> I'll see how it can be fixed, and release an update
[21:20] <orion-uk> Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[21:20] <orion-uk> Failed to change password for orion-uk
[21:20] <orion-uk> orion-uk@orion-uk-Ubuntu:~$
[21:20] <MattJ> Hmm
[21:20] <MattJ> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[21:21] <orion-uk> same error message!
[21:22] <MattJ> Hmm
[21:22] <MattJ> Now I really am sure that you attract these problems :D
[21:23] <orion-uk> lol...man.. u were right... soO many problems.. might just kill all my equipment and start again...lol
[21:23] <MattJ> "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" gave an error message?
[21:23] <orion-uk> :-)
[21:23] <MattJ> or smbpasswd did, a second time?
[21:23] <orion-uk> second time
[21:23] <orion-uk> smb restart whent fine :)
[21:23] <MattJ> Oki
[21:24] <orion-uk> funny that.. and when i want to, i cant reproduce the recording error..only when i dont want to..lol
[21:25] <MattJ> Try:
[21:25] <MattJ> sudo smbpasswd orion-uk
[21:26] <orion-uk> accepted that.. will try access on osd now..
[21:27] <MattJ> k
[21:28] <orion-uk> cool, that worked...thanx :) do i need to enter login every time or just this time?
[21:29] <MattJ> It will stay logged in until you reboot the OSD
[21:29] <MattJ> Older firmwares then require you to log in from scratch
[21:29] <orion-uk> lol..btw.. am having same prob with (some) windows share but not all... have not set a psswrd 4 the shares!
[21:29] <MattJ> Newer ones save the login info, and you can just click "OK"
[21:29] <MattJ> No idea about the Windows ones :)
[21:30] <orion-uk> some are ok, just go straight in.
[21:30] <orion-uk> lol
[21:30] <orion-uk> np..
[21:30] <orion-uk> you wanna keep looking at wooble or you wanna go off and chill/work/sleep? :-)
[21:31] <MattJ> I know what the problem is with remote control
[21:31] <MattJ> I need to work out how to fix it
[21:31] <MattJ> Scheduled recordings... you have a broken .recordings file
[21:31] <orion-uk> ok...was wondering why u shot of calling urself stupid!..far from it m8! :)
[21:31] <MattJ> The OSD ignores the broken part, so I think my code should too :)
[21:32] <orion-uk> ok
[21:32] <MattJ> No, I am stupid, I didn't test it enough before I released it :)
[21:33] <MattJ> The version I stayed using still worked fine, but didn't have some of the newer changes
[21:33] <orion-uk> well it gave me a chance to talk with u and learn more stuff ;-) thaty was worth something :>
[21:33] <MattJ> :)
[21:33] <orion-uk> you have been soO cool helping me, thanx so much :)
[21:33] <MattJ> np, I like to know someone is using my work :)
[21:33] <orion-uk> sorry i have taken up so much of ur time :-}
[21:34] <MattJ> It's fine
[21:34] <orion-uk> and apprieciating it :)
[21:34] <MattJ> The development took more time :)
[21:34] <orion-uk> well.. if u wanna get off for now its cool?
[21:34] <orion-uk> how long u been working on it?
[21:34] <MattJ> Since... hmm
[21:35] <MattJ> Good question :)
[21:35] <orion-uk> well... its looking gr8t anyways... guess u prob got loads of stuff on thew go aswell..lol
[21:36] <orion-uk> btw..
[21:37] <orion-uk> was talking to a guy in japan (mr bard, j) told him u was helping me and hes said something about a pay raise..lol
[21:37] <MattJ> open.neurostechnology.com <-- 10th November
[21:37] <MattJ> JoeBorn :)
[21:37] <orion-uk> thats they guy.. told u i had a bad mem..lol
[21:38] <orion-uk> cvrweb asked 4 one too..lol
[21:38] <orion-uk> must be getting late .. my typos on hyper again..rotflmao@me :)
[21:38] <MattJ> lol
[21:39] <orion-uk> just checking out the link now..
[21:40] <MattJ> 2 days earlier it looked like this: open.neurostechnology.com
[21:41] <orion-uk> cool.. moving along nicely then..shame i cant seem to get it..lol.. what u think im doing wrong?
[21:41] <orion-uk> looks perfect fore the job
[21:42] <MattJ> You aren't doing anything wrong
[21:42] <orion-uk> did you look at the bagster project i sent you ...tightvnc?
[21:42] <orion-uk> cool ;-)
[21:42] <MattJ> Yep, already used that :)
[21:42] <MattJ> I asked if he would make a package... no reply, I guess I'll make one
[21:42] <orion-uk> u like... have it running as we type..
[21:43] <orion-uk> i did post on his page when i 1st tried to get it to work.. no reply either.. must have alot on.
[21:44] <orion-uk> it was on that night i REALLY needed sleep.. got it working in 2 mins the nxt day..lol
[21:44] <MattJ> heh
[21:44] <orion-uk> its my age :-/
[21:45] <orion-uk> but ..on the good side, my wife is 10 yrs younger than me :->
[21:45] <orion-uk> (shes24) :_)
[21:46] <orion-uk> had better let u go really m8?
[21:47] <MattJ> Kind of gone already -_-
[21:47] <MattJ> gn :)
[21:48] <orion-uk> lol.. go on buddy..go pull away those match sticks..lol
[21:48] <orion-uk> thanx again...
[21:48] <orion-uk> catch u l8trz ok