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<mp0>

cleaner... the 1.73 I was using was just a bunch of text menus with shading effects. The 1.18 that I apparently just built has the Neuros OSD logo on the top right, a memory indicator on the bottom left

<mp0>

and the first menu is cleaner and not a list.

<mp0>

err, by not a list, I mean not a scrolling list.

<mp0>

I guess maybe they changed the theme and needed more items on the first menu?

<mp0>

and then got rid of the memory indicator because of the CF going away?

* JoeBorn ducks and runs for cover

mp0: welcome are you new?

<mp0>

But then that leaves me with the question of why the Feb 15 tarball had an old firmware source.

<mp0>

yes, sorry for asking so many questions

don't be sorry, we're glad youre here

but I'm not sure many are around that can answer many of them :(

it's mostly JohnDesigner and me and we're both three sheets to the wind

indeed

<mp0>

any cool OSD tricks I should know about?

user tricks?

<mp0>

sure

mp0: the # key is 30 second skip

<mp0>

k

channel up and down scrolls through lists.

in video playback of course (dont think it works in audion

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you can use an iphone as a remote

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<mp0>

nice

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open.neurostechnology.com is a good source for a bunch of random stuff.

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<mp0>

Any chance Close Captioning will be supported any time soon? My hearing leaves a bit to be desired.

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<mp0>

I found a bugzilla entry on it

i think so, you're certainly not the first person to request it, did the bugzilla entry have a expected completion on it?

<mp0>

ooh, good question, lemme look

make sure you vote for it, we look at that seriously.

another gent was asking about subs earlier today

well, ok night all

nite JoeBorn

I personally want subs for foreign language films

I watch a lot of foreign films, because I'm really fancy.

*really* fancy.

tell 'em John!

<mp0>

looks like it's low priority

mp0: the memopry indicator was removed from the main menu in favor of a cleaner look

what's the bug?

* JohnDesigner notes JoeBorn's fancypantsness

mp0: JohnDesigner is the GUI designer, so you're talking to the right guy if you want to poop on the GUI :)

<mp0>

John, makes sense... it's not important information.

mp0: also removed bc it really didn't server a purpose in that context.'

* JohnDesigner dons his hazmat suit

<mp0>

heh, sorry, I wasn't trying to poop it... I was just curious why the tarball had an old firmware rev in it more than anything else.

heh I know you weren't

s'okay even if you want to

<mp0>

I'm building Arizona now so we'll see how that looks :-)

JohnDesigner: I don't want to say anything, but that glass you so admire was labeled

2oz. Shooter Cordial Glass

it sounds pretty puss to me :(

its polite

for a midwestern tough guy...

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JoeBorn: if you would put down your shotgun and banjo for a second, you might enrich your horizons just a little

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although I would vote for not using that name internally.

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Y'know, cuz its puss

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mp0: Arizona looks more or less the same ATM, but its a little crisper and shinier

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unless you happen past the main menu, then its the wild west layout-wise

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mp0: which shot glass do you like better?

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www.discountmugs.com

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or www.discountmugs.com

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mp0: keep in mind that if you like the 2nd linked one, JoeBorn is on his own with executing his plan

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mp0: pay no heed to JohnDesigner

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but don't let that influence you in any way

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shotglass registration issues are JohnDesigner 's specialty

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* mp0 looks

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<mp0>

JoeBorn... I think I should be using Arizona if only because developing off of 1.xx is a dead end.

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<mp0>

as for the glasses... can't decide!

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mp0: you should definately be using AZ

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<mp0>

sweet, I found a use for the OSD: playing a japanese anime that's already been subtitled.

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the OSD handles hard subs well :)

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<mp0>

I'm curious... how well does the OSD capture standard definition?

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it works well for SD

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<mp0>

I'm noticing that the anime I'm playing looks perfect at SD

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<mp0>

however the video which is acquired looks slightly blocky

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<mp0>

so I assume it can play at a higher resolution than capture

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hmm, not sure about that off hand.

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are you sure your connections and wires and such are tight, so to speak?

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<mp0>

yeah, I don't think that's the issue: I'm comparing the image quality when the device is just passing through the video vs when the device is actively capturing and playing the video... you know what I mean?

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<mp0>

ie, when I have the menu up the device starts capturing and playing to create the backdrop

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<mp0>

same with recording

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<mp0>

however when I exit out of the OSD menus, the device is just passing through the signal

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<mp0>

Don't worry about it, it's not a big deal. I was just curious.

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<gremlin[it]>

morning all!

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hello everyone...

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i need some help to start on qt i.e how to configure qt designer to develope applications for neuros enviornment?

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<MattJ>

.

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* MattJ needs some batteries for his OSD remote

MattJ: they are proprietary, you can only get them from the Neuros store

j/k

<MattJ>

:P

<MattJ>

Funny thing is, I would control it via the network

<MattJ>

Except I need to set the IP address

<MattJ>

Aha

* MattJ steals batteries from his VCR remote

need to set the IP address?

<MattJ>

I use static IPs

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<MattJ>

Quite how the OSD forgot it's IP is another question o_O

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<MattJ>

I have a suspicion that someone upgraded the firmware without my knowledge

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MattJ: got a minute to talk about wooble, etc?

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<MattJ>

Sure

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* MattJ will be using it when he travels to FOSDEM this week :)

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to schedule shows?

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<MattJ>

To download scheduled ones

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ahh.

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but first a crucial question for all of you

versus

as a neuros giveaway for LRL (US)

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<MattJ>

I end up in the same place for both those links

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<MattJ>

Look like valentines gifts :)

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<MattJ>

brb

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<MattJ>

back

well, ignore the hearts, you are supposed to see two different kinds of shot glasses

<MattJ>

I see the clear one, for both links

<MattJ>

for some reason

<MattJ>

Hmm, I changed the URL manually

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<MattJ>

Browser quirk :)

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<MattJ>

Now see a short fat one

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<MattJ>

Hmm

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<MattJ>

The latter IMHO

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<MattJ>

www.discountmugs.com

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you like the tall one better?

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<MattJ>

Yes

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that's great actually.

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<MattJ>

Oh?

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well the idea is to make a "secret decoder shot glass" where the glass has a pattern

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and with it comes a peice of paper that you roll up and put on the inside

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then you view the "secret code" through the glass and we use that code to give away prizes, etc

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its needless and gratuitously complicated, but we can also use it to email special offers that would only be available to attendees, etc.

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and I suspect the LRL crowd will get a kick out of it.

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ok, so about wooble, etc.

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I guess there are a number of things I'm thinking, so I'll just blurt out a bunch of random thoughts.

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1. so bagster is using shell scripts and haserl and you're using lua

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<MattJ>

Correct, issue #1

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so I only have a vague notion of what level those are responsible for, but it seems like a factor that divides the project

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#2 I'm not really sure exactly what the scope of the project is, for example.

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I'd like to promote and do a youtube video, etc about "using the iPhone as a universal remote"

and I'm not clear if wooble is focused on just the webserver + lobster

and those other specific apps (xmms client, remote scheduling) are "applications" on top of wooble or are they a part of wooble

<MattJ>

wooble provides a web-frontend to anything you want it to

<MattJ>

They are wooble modules

ok

so what state is "wooble" in?

brb

<MattJ>

Well the framework, works

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<MattJ>

It's the modules that it needs

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<MattJ>

Scheduling can be completed as soon as I get AZ

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<MattJ>

Remote control just about works

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<MattJ>

XMMS2 and package management modules are in the works

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<MattJ>

I'll have to check out what bagster has done

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<MattJ>

It could be that it is relatively easy to use them in wooble (despite being shell scripts)

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www.wooble.com is this anyone we know? just curious

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ok. so if I'd like to create a wooble module, how do I get started?

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<MattJ>

wooble.com isn't me :o)

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doesn't matter, I accidentally typed it in by accident and was just curious

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<MattJ>

Probably copying the status module is easiest, and starting from that

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<MattJ>

There is a great guide to Lua at lua.org and reference page at lua.org

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ok

<MattJ>

I plan on writing a page for the wiki

<MattJ>

if I haven't already

* MattJ forgets

I don't think so.

wiki.neurostechnology.com

<MattJ>

<MattJ>

I didn't get as far as describing how to create modules yet

the viewing of the OSD screen doesn't work does it?

ahh, I search for wooble and didn't find it.

I get errors when I press buttons on the remote?

I assume none of this is helpful to report?

<MattJ>

Ah, yes it is