[00:22] <BIMZIE> hi john and nero
[00:45] <crweb> BIMZIE: i'm afraid nero is probably still in bed
[00:57] <BIMZIE> lolz
[00:58] <BIMZIE> n wot abt john? :)
[00:58] <BIMZIE> neways crweb hi
[00:58] <crweb> JohnDesigner: ping
[00:58] <crweb> hello
[00:59] <JohnDesigner> hi
[00:59] <crweb> BIMZIE: if you use the persons nickname, it notifies them that you said the name
[00:59] <JohnDesigner> whats going on?
[01:00] <JohnDesigner> big things I tell ya. the're big! thats what
[01:01] <crweb> magic shows
[01:02] <crweb> JohnDesigner: i bought the ring friday...
[01:02] <crweb> afterwards stressed my self out to a point of being sick, lol
[01:02] <JohnDesigner> does that mean that something bad is going to happen in 24 days or such?
[01:03] <crweb> i'm going to ask in 2 weeks..
[01:03] <JohnDesigner> oh, thats after you *watch* the ring
[01:03] <BIMZIE> so crweb wot r u workin at
[01:03] <JohnDesigner> well, I wish you well my friend
[01:03] <crweb> upgrade scripts, scheduler bugs, and painter research
[02:10] <crweb> JohnDesigner: hows the weather up there?
[03:25] <french> helo
[03:26] <french> helo
[03:26] <nerochiaro> french: bonjour
[03:26] <french> salut
[03:26] <french> salut
[03:26] <french> j'aurai une question
[03:27] <french> en faite je cherche les sources verilog du c54x ...
[03:27] <nerochiaro> french: i don't really speak french ;) if you can ask your question in english, it's better
[03:27] <french> ok
[03:28] <french> i search the verilog source of the c54x dsp
[03:28] <nerochiaro> we don't have sources for any of the code that run on the DSP, it's all closed unfortunately
[03:28] <french> but it is a soc
[03:29] <french> this platform run on a soc
[03:29] <french> no ?
[03:29] <nerochiaro> we have both ARM and C54x on board. we have open source code for the ARM processor
[03:30] <nerochiaro> the SoC is TI DM320
[03:30] <french> it isn't free ?
[03:30] <french> or it's free
[03:30] <nerochiaro> the ARM part is free, the C54x is not
[03:31] <nerochiaro> if "free" you mean "open source"
[03:31] <french> yes ... but i speak of the chip
[03:31] <french> no a software
[03:32] <french> ok
[03:32] <nerochiaro> i'm not sure i understand your question. what does it mean that the chip is "free" ?
[03:33] <french> i search a code verilog or vhdl to load it on a spartan 3
[03:33] <french> so i search a code of a chip
[03:34] <french> do you understand what i mean ?
[03:34] <nerochiaro> yes, i understand now. and we don't have that
[03:35] <french> but the DM 320 is on a soc no ?
[03:35] <nerochiaro> as far as is know the dm320 IS the SoC
[03:36] <french> ok ! now it's me who understand ...
[03:36] <french> DM 320 is like a fpga with the code inside !
[03:36] <french> ?
[03:37] <french> on this site : www.opencores.org ... there is a sources of a c54x
[03:37] <nerochiaro> it's a general dual-CPU system (one ARM9 CPU and one C54x DSP). They are both programmable
[03:37] <french> ok
[03:37] <nerochiaro> but i don't know anything about verilog. we use C to write code for them :)
[03:37] <nerochiaro> the ARM runs Linux
[03:38] <french> ok
[03:38] <nerochiaro> an FPGA is a very different thing from what we have, i think
[03:38] <french> ok
[03:38] <french> with a fpga, we can make a soc
[03:39] <french> and i want to realise a soc
[03:39] <crweb> what is a soc?
[03:39] <french> system on chip
[03:39] <crweb> i see
[03:39] <crweb> yes, DM* series is a soc
[03:39] <nerochiaro> french: what is that you need to do with the SoC ?
[03:40] <crweb> however, it is a soc that has a DSP attached
[03:40] <french> nothing exactly defined
[03:41] <french> i want to attache a c54x with a LEON3
[03:41] <french> on a spartan3
[03:41] <french> or more
[03:42] <french> so i need the sources of the c54x
[03:42] <crweb> you would probably need to contact TI for that information
[03:42] <crweb> the C54x is a digital signal processor
[03:42] <nerochiaro> french: i don't think you will find anything in the neuros source code to help you with that. we have mostly C source code for the ARM processor
[03:43] <nerochiaro> and no verilog info that i know of
[03:43] <french> ok
[03:43] <crweb> we work with the DM* series which is a complete system on 1 chip
[03:43] <crweb> what you speek is the TMS320C54x
[03:44] <french> ok
[03:44] <crweb> i believe the sources are available for $ from TI
[03:44] <nerochiaro> lot of cash, i think
[03:44] <french> yes i think too
[03:44] <crweb> probably around $5k
[03:44] <french> www.opencores.org
[03:45] <french> on this site, there is a part of the c54x
[03:45] <french> but it isn't complete
[03:45] <crweb> some of the c54x interfaces are closed and only ingenient knows they exist
[03:45] <crweb> i do not know how that relates to your needs with vhdl/verilog though
[03:47] <french> ok
[03:47] <french> i am going to continue my seeking
[03:47] <french> a little
[03:48] <gremlin[it]> good morning all
[03:48] <french> so i thank you
[03:48] <nerochiaro> french: you're welcome
[03:48] <nerochiaro> gremlin[it]: hi
[03:48] <french> thanks
[03:49] <french> goodbye
[07:03] <BIMZIE> hi nero
[07:03] <BIMZIE> bro i need ur help
[07:05] <nerochiaro> BIMZIE: what's up ?
[07:17] <BIMZIE> man m kindo gettin mad abt this qt stuff
[07:17] <BIMZIE> nero its QT4.2 ri8
[07:17] <BIMZIE> but when i use setStyleSheet it says it can't find its definition...
[07:18] <BIMZIE> wots wrong wid it...
[07:20] <nerochiaro> 4.2.3
[07:20] <nerochiaro> soon to be 4.2.4 i think
[07:21] <nerochiaro> we also disabled styleSheets i think since we don't need them
[07:31] <BIMZIE> yep i jus read dat doc ab disabled features :(
[07:32] <nerochiaro> BIMZIE: if you need it's possible to enable it again, but stylesheets aren't a good idea on our setup, i think
[07:33] <BIMZIE> u a ri8...
[07:33] <BIMZIE> i'll figure out some alternative for it....
[07:34] <nerochiaro> just set the properties in code or use a style plugin
[07:34] <nerochiaro> we already use our own style plugin, you see that in SVN
[07:35] <BIMZIE> style plugin... whr is it?
[07:36] <BIMZIE> i mean its path
[07:36] <nerochiaro> linux-r3-main-app/plugins/nosdstyle if i recall correctly
[07:38] <BIMZIE> hmm
[07:39] <BIMZIE> and wot purpose r these style used for.....
[07:39] <BIMZIE> is it an alternate for stylesheet or wot...?
[07:40] <nerochiaro> you can customize the drawing of every widget in a more efficient way than with style sheets
[07:41] <nerochiaro> yes, alternate to style
[07:57] <BIMZIE> ahan
[07:57] <BIMZIE> n currently wot widgets are using ndostyle
[07:57] <BIMZIE> so i can figure out how to use it
[07:59] <nerochiaro> if you look at current SVN trunk you will see that buttons now use it
[08:07] <BIMZIE> i've ndostyle in the version i have....
[08:08] <nerochiaro> yes, but i added some stuff for buttons to it yesterday
[08:09] <BIMZIE> ahh i c....
[08:09] <BIMZIE> internet is not so gr8 ri8 now... gotta check out completely :(
[08:10] <nerochiaro> ok
[08:10] <BIMZIE> and nero m havin some problem wid nmenulist as welll
[08:11] <nerochiaro> what ?
[08:11] <BIMZIE> look i've added some more menus to it....
[08:11] <BIMZIE> to be exact it has 9 items ri8 now
[08:12] <BIMZIE> but at a time its showing 7.5 items... .5 is strange but it is so....
[08:12] <BIMZIE> i resized the menu list
[08:12] <BIMZIE> but no gain man... :(
[08:12] <BIMZIE> its kindo freakin me out...
[08:13] <nerochiaro> hmm, not sure what can be the problem
[08:18] <BIMZIE> any idea..... i thot u guys might b hard coded he list size but didn't find anyhing like dat
[08:18] <nerochiaro> BIMZIE: it don't think we hardcoded the size, no
[08:20] <BIMZIE> ahan....
[08:22] <BIMZIE> did u add new buttons in main-menu?
[08:22] <BIMZIE> and i've only chkd out main-menu is it enuf?
[08:23] <nerochiaro> main-menu doesn't have buttons
[08:24] <BIMZIE> so i meant i checkd out main-app
[08:24] <nerochiaro> linux-r3-main-app ?
[08:24] <BIMZIE> but thr r buttons on dat reboot and about dialog
[08:24] <BIMZIE> yep
[08:24] <BIMZIE> is it enuf?
[08:25] <nerochiaro> enough to do what ?
[08:26] <BIMZIE> nothin i've figured it out :)
[08:27] <BIMZIE> wanted to replace linux-r3-main-app from my cur tree
[08:27] <BIMZIE> but it didn't work out....
[08:36] <BIMZIE> looks i gotta chk out neuros cooler too
[08:59] <JoeBorn> MP0: I heard about the closed captioning work you're doing, thanks for that
[09:06] <gremlin[it]> hi JoeBorn
[09:10] <vmarks> hello
[09:28] <wmat> JoeBorn: I saw your question over on #elinux regarding OLS, did you get an answer?
[09:29] <wmat> JoeBorn: the guy to ask is Andrew Hutton - ajh@linuxsymposium.org
[09:48] <JoeBorn> wmat: thanks.
[10:22] <gremlin[it]> ping nerochia1o
[10:22] <gremlin[it]> ping nerochiaro
[14:14] <jens_k> i have problems getting the audiotest program to work. i have enabled debugging and get the following output:
[17:05] <JohnDesigner> vmarks: ping.
[17:06] <JohnDesigner> vmarks: in your MC experiments, have you tinkered with BeyondTV 4 yet?
[17:52] <vmarks> I have done beyondtv4.
[17:52] <vmarks> recently actually.
[17:53] <JohnDesigner> I've only toyed with it a little. not yet to the level of actually using it on a day to day basis.
[17:54] <JohnDesigner> I'm thinking o paring my existing beyondTV lic with an HD homerun tuner.
[17:55] <vmarks> I found that to be annoying as heck to set up.
[17:55] <vmarks> I did it.
[17:55] <vmarks> but lordy.
[17:55] <vmarks> and I mean, lordy.
[17:56] <vmarks> beyondtv does not understand QAM channels.
[17:56] <vmarks> so instead, they fake it.
[17:56] <vmarks> you have to map your qam channels from cable to ATSC channel format, but choose ones that aren't in use.
[17:56] <vmarks> you do this online on their website.
[17:56] <vmarks> then you pick your faked channel lineup in the set up application...
[17:57] <vmarks> and then, it sort of works.
[17:57] <JohnDesigner> hrmm, does it work okay on a daily basis after that hassle?
[17:58] <JohnDesigner> does hd homerun work like Slingpox in the way that only one computer can view the signal at one time?
[18:22] <vmarks> JohnDesigner, there are two tuners in hdhomerun, so you can view on separate computers.
[18:35] <JohnDesigner> vmarks: I see. 2 tuners certainly makes the device more attractive. That and the fact that it supports QAM
[18:43] <JohnDesigner> I have 2 tv capture devices, but both have limitations. the better of the two is pcmcia, but would't you know it that my new lappy has only an expressCard slot. poop.
[18:44] <JohnDesigner> my computers and devices are not playing well with each other in that respect
[19:13] <vmarks> and you want to do an htpc...
[19:13] <vmarks> :)
[19:23] <JohnDesigner> heh, I see your point.
[19:26] <JohnDesigner> however, the htpc impulse was created by my devices incompatibility or obsolescence
[19:26] <JohnDesigner> the hd homerun may scratch that itch.
[19:28] <JohnDesigner> i'd just buy a new tuner card or usb version, but I don't have one computer to tivoize.
[19:32] <vmarks> it's going to be ugly.
[19:32] <vmarks> it is.
[19:32] <vmarks> the only advantage to hdhomerun is the networking.
[19:32] <vmarks> and you may as well look at a Hava instead then.
[19:33] <vmarks> hava isn't dual tuner, but it is also HD.
[19:33] * JohnDesigner  googles hava
[19:34] <JohnDesigner> hmm, so Hava is Slingbox without the lockdown?
[19:35] <vmarks> :)
[19:35] <JohnDesigner> crud.
[19:35] <vmarks> am I a good resource yet?
[19:35] * JohnDesigner  looks at his slingbox pro with disgust
[19:36] <JohnDesigner> vmarks: indeed you are, have been, and always shall be
[19:40] <JohnDesigner> if the only real hassle with hd homerun is the setup being a pain, I can deal with that in order to have the dual tuners.
[19:41] <JohnDesigner> vmarks: any other notable post-setup shortcomings of the hd homerun?
[19:52] <JohnDesigner> vmarks: nm. crud again. HD hoemrun would need to support cableCARD or Ir blaster for me to use it fully as I imagine
[19:53] <vmarks> yeah. and it doesn't.
[19:53] <vmarks> although if you had hdhomerun near a cable box, you could use any IR blaster that beyondtv supports.
[19:53] <vmarks> usb style.
[19:53] <vmarks> which negates the point of the homerun being networked.
[19:53] <vmarks> hava has ir blasters built in.
[19:55] <JohnDesigner> +1 for Hava
[20:02] <JohnDesigner> I wonder if Hava will allow me to trade them a slingboxPro even-up.
[22:12] <vmarks> joeborn: forum.blu-ray.com