| [00:46] | <Hostile> | so the OSD works with my microdrive, but only notices it if I boot with the drive in the CF slot. |
| [04:02] | <tarbo> | hello $C |
| [04:04] | <tarbo> | hello #neuros |
| [04:06] | <tarbo> | hello #neuros freenode |
| [05:28] | <nerochiaro> | turran: hola |
| [05:29] | <turran> | nerochiaro, ciao |
| [05:29] | <nerochiaro> | turran: :) |
| [05:32] | <turran> | nerochiaro, how are things going on neuros? |
| [05:34] | <nerochiaro> | turran: QT-based system about to be officially released, new product shaping up, so more or less well. some people in mailing list are uncovering major issues in the way we deal with community, so there's a bit of soul searching going on right now, to improve there |
| [05:34] | <turran> | nerochiaro, interesting |
| [05:35] | <nerochiaro> | quite so |
| [05:36] | <turran> | nerochiaro, does qt fits well with your codecs api? |
| [05:36] | <nerochiaro> | turran: it just on a different layer, so it doesn't really have to fit. |
| [05:37] | <nerochiaro> | we have a "media server" abstraction between the GUI and the codecs, so you can put anything on top of that in GUI terms |
| [05:41] | <turran> | nice |
| [05:47] | <nerochiaro> | tarbo: you still there ? |
| [05:47] | <tarbo> | nerochiaro: yes |
| [05:48] | <nerochiaro> | tarbo: i saw you greeting the channel in many ways |
| [05:48] | <tarbo> | nerochiaro: it was a very stupid 5am typo that spammed every channel i am in - and i did it three times because i didnt realize that was what was happening :-( |
| [05:48] | <nerochiaro> | tarbo: oh, i see |
| [05:49] | <nerochiaro> | tarbo: no big harm done then |
| [05:49] | <tarbo> | nerochiaro: i appreciate it, now to get the short sword out of my abdomen |
| [05:50] | <nerochiaro> | just pull ? |
| [07:31] | <daurnimator> | hey all |
| [08:20] | <daurnimator> | nerochiaro: do we have phonon? |
| [08:41] | <nerochiaro> | daurnimator: no. it's a kde thing |
| [08:41] | <daurnimator> | i thought it was a qt thing? |
| [08:43] | <nerochiaro> | as far as i can see it's kde |
| [08:44] | <daurnimator> | [01:42:04] <daurnimator> Does it only work in KDE4? |
| [08:44] | <daurnimator> | [01:42:15] <Vir> it depends on Qt4 |
| [08:44] | <daurnimator> | [01:42:25] <Vir> and the phonon-xine backend also depends on kdelibs |
| [08:44] | <nerochiaro> | there you go |
| [08:44] | <nerochiaro> | but anyway, we can have it with a phonon-nms backend maybe |
| [08:45] | <daurnimator> | I would find that pleasent |
| [08:45] | <nerochiaro> | but don't know about how useful it's going to be to have yet another abstraction layer |
| [08:45] | <daurnimator> | if I ever do get around to doing things again |
| [08:46] | <daurnimator> | I'm too busy lately :( |
| [08:47] | <nerochiaro> | well, you can still use that for your PC player thingie no ? |
| [08:49] | <daurnimator> | I found phenon while browsing yesterday |
| [08:49] | <daurnimator> | it looks to be exactly what I want |
| [08:49] | <daurnimator> | but the reliance on qt/kde annoys me |
| [08:49] | <daurnimator> | still have to make bindings or something |
| [08:52] | <nerochiaro> | sorry, got to go |
| [08:53] | <gremlin[it]> | buon pomeriggio nerochiaro ! |
| [10:24] | <JoeBorn> | hi everybody |
| [11:20] | <JohnDesigner> | hello |
| [12:26] | <Hostile> | hey guys |
| [12:26] | <Hostile> | anyone here familar with the arizona system that can answer some questions for me? |
| [12:30] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: if your questions are code related, I won't be much help |
| [12:30] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: but I am the GUI designer, so I may be able to answer some general questions |
| [12:31] | <Hostile> | JohnDesigner, actually more like how it works/installation etc |
| [12:31] | <JohnDesigner> | hey! I may be of use! |
| [12:32] | <JohnDesigner> | unless you are talking about tarballs and such |
| [12:32] | <Hostile> | okay, so I just picked up a 4GB microdrive last night intending to use it for video on my OSD, then I come home and I found out about arizona which uses a CF card, so if I use my microdrive for arizona, the 4gb goes to waste? |
| [12:33] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: CF slot is dedicated to AZ, so once AZ is installed, CF cannot be removed without losing AZ. |
| [12:34] | <JohnDesigner> | you may be able to free up some of that 4gb, but not in a standard way |
| [12:34] | <Hostile> | I don't mind having to keep the CF card in the OSD to use it, I just want to still be able to put video on the card |
| [12:36] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: I saw something to that effect discussed, but you would need to talk to crweb or nerochiaro for help there |
| [12:36] | <Hostile> | alright thanks, I just want to be able to partition it and not waste all the space. |
| [12:37] | <Hostile> | Ill idle in here today and wait for crweb or nerochiaro to come around |
| [12:37] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: in the 'standard' AZ function, the CF card is invisible. However those guys may tell you how to use some of the space for storage. |
| [12:38] | <Hostile> | I like little unknown hacks =P |
| [12:55] | <JohnDesigner> | thats good in this case :) |
| [14:12] | <Hostile> | nerochiaro or crweb, if you come around let me know |
| [14:20] | <Hostile> | hey Matt |
| [14:23] | <MattJ> | Hi :) |
| [14:24] | <Hostile> | so my microdrive works...but only if I start the OSD with it inserted |
| [14:25] | <MattJ> | Hmm, that's interesting... never seen that before |
| [14:25] | <Hostile> | yea |
| [17:01] | <JohnDesigner> | anyone an ME or EE? |
| [17:06] | <JohnDesigner> | and care to look at a detail on a HDMI parts drawing? |
| [17:08] | <JohnDesigner> | there is a PCB-hole layout on it with an offset-entity around the dimensioned PCB hole. I don't know why the offset is there. |
| [17:23] | <Hostile> | anyone know where to download AZ? |
| [17:24] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: just a sec, I'll look |
| [17:28] | <JohnDesigner> | open.neurostechnology.com |
| [17:29] | <JohnDesigner> | Hostile: that release is from a few days ago |
| [17:31] | <JohnDesigner> | well, its not a "release" but rather the internal daily issue from a few days ago |
| [18:00] | <Hostile> | thanks |
| [18:01] | <JohnDesigner> | you're welcome |
| [18:06] | <JohnDesigner> | man, I don't know how the EEs do it. I'd blow my brains out looking at pin diagrams all day |
| [18:07] | * JohnDesigner is looking at pin diagrams BTW | |
| [18:21] | <MattJ> | JohnDesigner: I have a nice interest in electronics, but I went more into programming, it being the more accessible and cheaper of the two hobbies |
| [18:21] | <MattJ> | + I always burn myself with the soldering iron |
| [18:22] | <JohnDesigner> | proper soldering iron care is premium. good a reason as any to switch. |
| [18:23] | <JohnDesigner> | I couldn't be a chemist for similar 'absent minded professor' reasons |
| [18:23] | <MattJ> | :) |
| [18:23] | <JohnDesigner> | count the days until i'd absentmindedly liked the substance off my fingers |
| [18:24] | <MattJ> | lol, no, I don't think I would trust myself with dangerous chemicals :) |
| [18:24] | <JohnDesigner> | or end up wiping H2SO4 on my pants |
| [18:24] | <JohnDesigner> | heh, that would be bad |
| [18:27] | <JohnDesigner> | wrt these pin diagrams, they aren't even dimensioned in a best practices way, so figuring why an oddly dimensioned item was done is driving me batty |
| [18:28] | <JohnDesigner> | "hmm, is that a critical or just poorly chosen method?" |
| [18:34] | <daurnimator> | JohnDesigner: I'm working on being an ME :P |
| [18:35] | <JohnDesigner> | daurnimator: good man. Study some art while you're at it too. |
| [18:35] | <daurnimator> | like what?? |
| [18:37] | <JohnDesigner> | spatial theory. umm...what else...well, taking a few artistically-bent design classes will help you out. |
| [18:37] | <JohnDesigner> | oh, for sure take a few sketching classes. |
| [18:38] | <JohnDesigner> | I have worked with only a few MEs that had noticable design sense, even fewer that could sketch well. |
| [18:38] | <daurnimator> | I'll try doing a bit of that next year |
| [18:39] | <daurnimator> | I have to pick a subject that has absolutely nothing to do with Eng or Science each semester |
| [18:39] | <JohnDesigner> | those that I know that can sketch and have some design sense are fought over by companies |
| [18:39] | <daurnimator> | this semester I'm doing management |
| [18:40] | <daurnimator> | next semester is some strange new internet subject |
| [18:40] | <JohnDesigner> | well, I suppose what non-core classes you take depends on what type of ME you want to be. |
| [18:41] | <JohnDesigner> | those guys I mentioned started in consulting, then went to Nike |
| [18:41] | <daurnimator> | I don't know enough, or have a clue to make decisions like that yet :P |
| [18:41] | <JohnDesigner> | makes sense. |
| [18:42] | <daurnimator> | I'm hardly sure I really want to do ME - I didn't have any reasons TO do it - just none against |
| [18:44] | <daurnimator> | I'm trying to leave plenty of escape routes |
| [18:45] | <JohnDesigner> | good plan. Chances are you may change a few times, even if its within the engineering discipline |
| [18:45] | <daurnimator> | I can still - without much setback, move to EE, Civil Eng, physics, or a couple of other things |
| [18:45] | <JohnDesigner> | I was a business major for my first semester of college. |
| [18:46] | <JohnDesigner> | then switched to graphic design, then switched finally to industrial design |
| [18:46] | <JohnDesigner> | kinda zeroed in on it |
| [18:49] | <JohnDesigner> | daurnimator: if you hurry up and finish, you can do CAD-up these components and pin layouts for me. |
| [18:50] | <JohnDesigner> | I may not be done with them by then |
| [18:52] | <vmarks> | hi |
| [18:56] | <JohnDesigner> | hi vmarks |
| [18:56] | <daurnimator> | i'll just be between 3 and 5 years |
| [18:57] | <JohnDesigner> | daurnimator: shoot. I'll be done with these models in 2 |
| [18:59] | <daurnimator> | heh |
| [18:59] | * daurnimator notes he has been in this irc channel for 3 years now | |