Log from #neuros IRC channel

piga: I'll be a mentor for this years SoC, but the guy who is in charge and knows most is on vacation till monday (nerochairo), the other guy isn't here (JoeBorn), and I'm flat out swamped

[15:50]

<crweb>

what i do know and a little hint is last year the applications we selected where the best thought out, provided execellent timelines, and were written proof that the project had serious thought by the developer

[15:52]

<crweb>

out of the 100 or so.. there were only like 8 that were written well. most where My name is ______, my degree is ___, I would like to work on project _______.

[15:54]

<piga>

That's why I came here.

[15:55]

<piga>

I want to know what are you expecting and introduced me

[15:56]

<piga>

I have a great experience with Theora. I did some a FPGA implementation of the decoder

[15:57]

<crweb>

we have projects we would like to see on our wiki. however, all projects are equal (if they benefit OSS and fit SoC timeline). All depends on developer's application and proposal.

[15:57]

<crweb>

at least for my votes

[15:58]

<crweb>

pretty sure the others as well.

[16:18]

JoeBorn: Hey Joe, there's a person named "piga" who is interested in the SoC, could you give him a ping?

[16:18]

hi piga

[16:19]

<piga>

Hi JoeBorn. I was looking for a SoC project this year and I found the Port Ogg Theora Codec idea at Neuros

[16:20]

great!

[16:20]

<piga>

Last year I worked at a FPGA implementation of Theora decoder. I did some modules at FPGA

[16:22]

<piga>

I know the Theora decoder. Could you give me an overview of this idea?

[16:23]

well, are you familiar with the TI silicon at all?

[16:24]

this would be to port the decoder to a 600MHz DSP (c64x) that's a part of the davinci soc (6446)

[16:24]

the codec would operate within TI's codec engine framework

[16:27]

<gremlin[it]>

JoeBorn i din't take a look but is davinci better documented than DM320 ? ... is available some sort of "free" DSP compiler ?

[16:28]

<crweb>

gremlin[it]: davinci is completely open

[16:28]

yes, far better documented, night and day...

[16:28]

<crweb>

gremlin[it]: is what i hear i mean. no closed protected interfaces like ingenient

[16:28]

no free dsp compiler yet.

[16:28]

but the applicant will get a loaner of the proprietary complete development environment.

[16:28]

ok gotta go all, bbiab

[16:29]

<gremlin[it]>

hi JoeBorn !

[16:29]

<crweb>

JoeBorn: what sucks is, if they would do so, development would explode into usefulness

[16:29]

<gremlin[it]>

but exist a Linux DSP compiler or only for Windows :(

[16:38]

<piga>

I'd never worked with TI but I have some experience with some motorola's DSPs

[16:46]

<gremlin[it]>

i know about nothing about DSP ... but what i know i that Davinci (and TM320 before) are heavily designed for video ... so exists some "high level" facilities to manage streams of data and input/output on framebbuffers

[16:48]

<crweb>

piga: good for experience then :)

[17:05]

<gremlin[it]>

night all !

[17:08]

ok, well, I'm back (obviously)

[17:08]

piga: you still there?

[17:09]

<piga>

Yes

[17:19]

did I answer your question?

[17:23]

GarBage: you there?

[17:54]

<piga>

JoeyBorn: Yes you answered my question

[20:20]

<MattJ>

In the auto-updater (of Torfu) I am getting told that any upgrade is a downgrade

[20:20]

<MattJ>

Whether I try official, beta, or dev

[20:22]

<MattJ>

and whatever version I have, YouTube doesn't work in

[20:23]

<MattJ>

Oh well, I'm 'downgrading' to the latest [dev] :)

[20:27]

* MattJ begins to feel helpless with no OSD to tinker with

[20:28]

what happened? you break it?

[20:28]

<MattJ>

No, it's upgrading to new firmware

[20:28]

<MattJ>

I can't wait that long :D

[20:43]

<MattJ>

Yay, back

[20:43]

<MattJ>

Can't wait for wooble's next release :)

[20:43]

<MattJ>

I just finished a new module

[20:44]

<MattJ>

It's a secret until I release it though ;)

[20:44]

<MattJ>

Probably next week

[20:44]

<MattJ>

brb

[22:28]

<MattJ>

gn

[22:29]

/win 3

[22:29]

.

[22:29]

GUI clients are so much easier :)

[23:12]

caldo_de_cana: welcome!

[23:12]

<caldo_de_cana>

=)

[23:12]

I don't know who's still here, but caldo_de_cana is from the videolan community

[23:13]

<caldo_de_cana>

I've never heard of neuros before. what exactly is it?

[23:13]

we're an open source electronics company.

[23:13]

<caldo_de_cana>

nice...

[23:13]

we have a brand in the US and elsewhere.

[23:13]

<caldo_de_cana>

Well, actually I'm from the FFmpeg community.

[23:14]

<caldo_de_cana>

I ported MPlayer to dm6446

[23:14]

oh, even better.

[23:14]

<caldo_de_cana>

but MPlayer is not very good for embedded devices... at all...

[23:14]

sorry to hear that.

[23:14]

<caldo_de_cana>

so we started working on VLC

[23:14]

I guess I'm glad we're not using it then.

[23:14]

<caldo_de_cana>

yes, be glad... it took us some months to figure it out =)

[23:15]

<caldo_de_cana>

I wrote a basic frame-buffer driver for MPlayer and just ported it to VLC last week.

[23:15]

<caldo_de_cana>

but I'm not the one testing anymore, so I don't know how that's going

[23:15]

www.linux.com

[23:16]

is a decent explaination of us, a couple years old now, but still gets the point

[23:16]

<caldo_de_cana>

also, I quit my job =) I go there once in a while to point people in the right direction again.

[23:16]

there's tons more if you're interested

[23:16]

wiki.neurostechnology.com

[23:17]

well, please apply for that position, it certainly sounds like you have a lot of the right experience.

[23:17]

where do you live?

[23:17]

we have employees and community members all over the world

[23:17]

<caldo_de_cana>

tons more...

[23:17]

<caldo_de_cana>

I live in Brazil

[23:18]

<caldo_de_cana>

but am moving to (somewhere in Europe) next week

[23:18]

very nice

[23:18]

<caldo_de_cana>

I still haven't decided where I'm moving to.

[23:18]

well, we have community members in spain, italy, uk, etc

[23:18]

<caldo_de_cana>

It'd be nice if there was relocation for this job, then I wouldn't have to choose where to move and just go =)

[23:19]

well, our main engineering office is in a very nice town in the south of China

[23:19]

China's continent is adjacent to Europe's anyway

[23:21]

product specs: groups.google.com

[23:22]

<caldo_de_cana>

not found

[23:22]

<caldo_de_cana>

is there another place to find it?

[23:25]

hmm, give me a minute

[23:27]

open.neurostechnology.com

[23:47]

<caldo_de_cana>

ok, I just sent an e-mail...

[23:48]

got it, thanks

[23:48]

<caldo_de_cana>

it looks like a pretty nice project

[23:49]

<caldo_de_cana>

do you also have portable audio players?

[23:49]

we used to, not now.

[23:49]

hopefully again one day, we'll see.

[23:50]

<caldo_de_cana>

in what timeframe can I expect an answer?

[23:50]

<caldo_de_cana>

I might get anxious =)

[23:54]

I imagine gao will have questions for you within 8 hours or so.

[23:54]

probably 30 hours at the most.

[23:54]

how much time do you have available?

[23:54]

would it be full time for now?

[23:54]

for some months or whats in your mind about this?

[23:55]

<caldo_de_cana>

I prefer if it's not full-time

[23:55]

<caldo_de_cana>

I'm on student leave untill august

[23:55]

<caldo_de_cana>

so until then I have lots of free time, but I'd still like to maintain half of the time as free.

[23:55]

oh, so how many hours a week can you work?

[23:56]

<caldo_de_cana>

I think 20 would be nice...

[23:56]

ok, well, lets see what we can do, maybe a smaller project.

[23:57]

<caldo_de_cana>

somedays I work 10, others I work 1... but on average I did 20 hours per week.

[23:57]

<caldo_de_cana>

yes, I think the project could be divided in small parts

[23:57]

<caldo_de_cana>

like: 1. write framebuffer support for VLC

[23:57]

<caldo_de_cana>

2. Make VLC use TI's Codec Engine

[23:59]

yeah, I'm looking for some of the breakdown