[00:29]	<mattl>	i'm actually wondering if the OSD we have is defective.
[00:29]	<mattl>	i mean.. can't play more than 5 seconds of audio without crapping out.
[13:20]	<JoeBorn>	hi all
[13:21]	<mattl>	hey JoeBorn
[13:24]	<JoeBorn>	mattl: howdy
[13:49]	<mattl>	JoeBorn: how's it going? we picked up at OSD yesterday at the Free Software Foundation
[13:49]	<JoeBorn>	at the FSF?
[13:50]	<JoeBorn>	one of the samples we sent them a long time ago?
[13:50]	<mattl>	no no, johnsu01 paid for it with his own monies.
[13:51]	<JoeBorn>	oh, great. what's the connection with the FSF? Sorry I'm dense
[13:51]	<mattl>	oh, we work there :)
[13:52]	* MattJ  != mattl (if that might be the source of confusion) :)
[13:53]	<mattl>	though mattl and mattj are from the same country and not too far apart.
[13:53]	<MattJ>	Oh?
[13:53]	<JoeBorn>	MattJ: yeah, no I kind of guessed the !=
[13:53]	<mattl>	well, i'm from the UK.. South West. Except, I now live in Boston, MA.
[13:54]	<JoeBorn>	well, mattl thanks and welcome aboard so to speak.
[13:54]	<JoeBorn>	we're looking to get TI working with the FSF more to sponsor projects, release documentation etc.
[13:54]	<mattl>	what's the connection with TI?
[13:54]	<JoeBorn>	There's a lot of excitement surrouding free software
[13:54]	<JoeBorn>	well, TI makes the chips that power both the current and next generation of Neuros device
[13:55]	<mattl>	oh i see. neat.
[13:55]	<mattl>	when's the next gen due? will it be more powerful? the only complaint i have so far with the OSD is that it seems to choke playing even a large MP3 from an SD card.
[13:56]	<JoeBorn>	well, that's a bug with the software,
[13:56]	<JoeBorn>	that's not really a horsepower issue per se.
[13:56]	<mattl>	oh good :)
[13:56]	<JoeBorn>	next gen will be available Q4, with dev samples in a couple months.
[13:56]	<mattl>	so, it can be fixed... i'm glad someone has finally made a hackble device.
[13:57]	<mattl>	neat, well don't forget us when you're sending out samples.. ;)
[13:57]	<JoeBorn>	certainly won't
[13:57]	<johnsu01>	I couldn't get it to play an unencrypted uncompressed VOB without excessive choppiness over USB, but I wonder if it would be better playing from an 8GB SD?
[13:57]	<JoeBorn>	well, VOBs give problems I'm afraid
[13:57]	<JoeBorn>	I believe CF and possibly SD less so
[13:58]	<mattl>	don't we need to keep the CF card in the machine though?
[13:58]	<JoeBorn>	I've even heard of better success with network streaming
[13:58]	<JoeBorn>	yeah :(
[13:59]	<mattl>	it played youtube pretty well.
[13:59]	<mattl>	so, the network is certainly functioniing at some speed
[14:00]	* MattJ  is going to release a new version of his web interface this week
[14:00]	<MattJ>	Quite excited about it :)
[14:01]	<mattl>	JoeBorn: do you know of any way to control the volume from the device itself?
[14:05]	<JoeBorn>	oh gain control, no, not yet
[14:06]	<JoeBorn>	bugzilla.neurostechnology.com
[14:18]	<SlvrHmr>	Anyone available/mind asking some user questions? I'm not a developer or a very good hacker.
[14:21]	<JoeBorn>	SlvrHmr: sure, ask away
[14:22]	<SlvrHmr>	thank you... I thought about downloading the IRC logs and searching them, but this is not developer stuff
[14:23]	<SlvrHmr>	I downloaded and ran the OSD ftpserver from an SD card, but login with root and no passwd won't allow me in
[14:24]	<SlvrHmr>	I'd like to be able to access the USB drive connected to the OSD via ftp from my PC... since I simply can't find a way to get my NAS to work with the OSD
[14:25]	<JoeBorn>	login to the ftp server won't work?
[14:26]	<JoeBorn>	why won't the NAS work with the OSD BTW?
[14:26]	<SlvrHmr>	I get to the ftp server on the OSD, but login with "root" and no password fails
[14:26]	<SlvrHmr>	the OSD sees the NAS, but demands a username & password... no combination I've set up on the NAS.. seems to work
[14:27]	<JoeBorn>	where did you get those login credentials for the ftp server?
[14:27]	<SlvrHmr>	in the readme file for the server in the download
[14:27]	<JoeBorn>	oic
[14:28]	<JoeBorn>	crweb wrote the ftp server, BTW I don't know if he's around or not
[14:28]	<JoeBorn>	SlvrHmr: what version of the firmware are you using?
[14:29]	<SlvrHmr>	the newest... 3.33-1.73-04.81t
[14:36]	<SlvrHmr>	Still around, Joe?
[15:00]	<JoeBorn>	sorry, I'm back
[15:07]	<mattl>	JoeBorn: playing an episode of Monk over the wired network, plays beautifully.
[15:07]	<JoeBorn>	great, thats an ISO?
[15:08]	<mattl>	DivX.
[15:08]	<JoeBorn>	ahh right, sounds more like it.
[15:09]	<mattl>	So, for my needs, playing torrents and rips to a TV, the OSD works well. For johnsu01 who has a load of DVDs on a USB disk, as VOBs, it's going to take some effort.
[15:09]	<JoeBorn>	yeah, I'm afraid so.
[15:10]	<JoeBorn>	I've heard that NFS streaming people have had luck with that.
[15:10]	<JoeBorn>	but unfortunately it depends on bitrate
[15:10]	<mattl>	Would plugging in an external, $30 DVD player and getting the OSD to record the DVD help?
[15:10]	<JoeBorn>	certainly the next generation will handle those with no sweat, but I know that's no consolation
[15:11]	<JoeBorn>	well, yeah if you record from a DVD player, you'll be fine.
[15:12]	<MattJ>	Hmm, SlvrHmr may have had some luck with samba maybe :/
[15:13]	<mattl>	JoeBorn: you might have to send a couple of the next gen ones on long term loan ;)
[15:14]	<JoeBorn>	hey, happy to, just lobby your folks on a gcc port to the chip's DSP core :)
[15:15]	<mattl>	done.
[15:31]	<jkridner>	:)
[15:32]	<jkridner>	mattl, if you are needing any docs on the core and cannot find them on the web, feel free to contact me.
[15:32]	<jkridner>	the more hackable we can make the chip, the better.
[16:22]	<MattJ>	crweb! The scheduler talks to me!
[18:06]	<vmarks>	MattJ, I have medication that can help you with that.
[18:12]	<MattJ>	vmarks: :P
[21:24]	<johnsu01>	URL for source code at wiki.neurostechnology.com is wrong..
[21:24]	<johnsu01>	svn.neurostechnology.com is 404
[21:27]	<mattl>	seems like a bunch of stuff is 404 there. i'm trying to get to svn.neurostechnology.com
[21:27]	<MattJ>	You get a 404 for that?
[21:28]	<MattJ>	The svn URL works for me
[21:28]	<MattJ>	Regarding the wiki... I don't know where things have moved to recently
[21:28]	<mattl>	hmm. works now.
[21:28]	<mattl>	weird.
[21:28]	<MattJ>	Otherwise I would fix it
[21:34]	<mattl>	the osd really needs adduser, who, etc.
[21:34]	<MattJ>	That would just overcomplicate it for most people
[21:34]	<MattJ>	But sometimes I agree :)
[21:40]	<mattl>	MattJ: do you have everything set up to compile stuff? wanna make me a wget binary?
[21:40]	<MattJ>	mattl: Sure
[21:40]	<mattl>	thanks mate.
[21:40]	<mattl>	if you ever come to boston, we'll buy you beer.
[21:40]	<MattJ>	Heh :)
[21:40]	<MattJ>	Are you using the official, or Qt firmware?
[21:43]	<mattl>	er.. Dev?
[21:44]	<mattl>	show me the Qt firmware!
[21:44]	<MattJ>	Heh, I don't know where to find it now, except in SVN
[21:44]	* johnsu01  is slowly checking out SVN
[21:45]	<MattJ>	People began using the nightly builds, and causing problems for themselves, so I think they (re?)moved them
[21:45]	<mattl>	nice.
[21:48]	<johnsu01>	it takes about 2 minutes+ to mount nfs
[21:49]	<MattJ>	Never tried NFS, I use samba
[21:49]	<johnsu01>	vob over nfs almost worked, just out of sync
[21:50]	<MattJ>	wget has the longest configure I have ever seen...
[21:50]	<mattl>	welcome to gnu
[21:50]	<MattJ>	Heh
[21:51]	<MattJ>	There is the possibility that it is just looping :P
[21:51]	<MattJ>	er
[21:51]	<MattJ>	I think it is!
[21:51]	<mattl>	hah
[21:52]	<MattJ>	Grr
[21:52]	<MattJ>	Some madness with the clock in the VM
[21:53]	<MattJ>	"Sun Jan 13 07:23:03 CST 2008"
[21:53]	<MattJ>	wget 1.11 was released on the 26th, lol
[22:10]	<MattJ>	mattl: matthewwild.co.uk
[22:10]	<MattJ>	Hope it works :)
[22:11]	<MattJ>	Appears to
[23:08]	<MattJ>	nn
[23:44]	<johnsu01>	What's going on here?
[23:44]	<johnsu01>	~ $ cp /media/SD-card/wget .
[23:44]	<johnsu01>	cp: cannot remove './wget': No such file or directory