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<viral>

I have neuros osd ... It is able to provide video out to TV when switch on and splash screen comes up but when i connect serial port and do setting as mentioned on neuros website, it is coming up. I have taken setting from : wiki.neurostechnology.com

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<viral>

wiki.neurostechnology.com

[00:15]

<crweb>

do you have a nullmodem connector?

[00:15]

<crweb>

or are you just taking the Serial calbe and plugging it directly into pc?

[00:17]

<viral>

i m connecting it using cable came with neuros and another female to female connector

[00:19]

<crweb>

if its just a femail to female, it might not be a null modem connector

[00:20]

<crweb>

the difference is, null modem connectors, R and W are swapped on the ends. f to f, is just straight through

[00:20]

<crweb>

so, PC's Read will be on the same line as OSD's Read. that won't work cause they'll both be reading

[00:21]

<viral>

using this female to female cable i can connect to serial port

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<viral>

of pc

[00:21]

<viral>

I have tested it and cable works fine over it

[00:21]

<crweb>

cable?

[00:22]

<crweb>

you mean to your cable box to tv?

[00:22]

<crweb>

err, cable box to pc

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<crweb>

it could be cable box is already switched to null mode

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<crweb>

where OSD is a serial port

[00:23]

<viral>

OSD Serial port -> Male Serial connector -> female connector of cable -> other end of cable is also female -> (Male) Serial port of PC

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<crweb>

right, the cable probably is a straight cable

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<crweb>

not a null modem cable

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<crweb>

en.wikipedia.org

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<viral>

but when i connect pc -> female connector of cable -> other end of cable is also female -> (Male) serial port of pc

[00:24]

<viral>

Thanks i seen tht wiki page

[00:24]

<crweb>

I think pc to pc isn't null connection maybe?

[00:25]

<viral>

but in second case of pc to pc, it works fine

[00:25]

<viral>

ahh

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<viral>

k

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<crweb>

I don't know for sure

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<crweb>

the cable should have markings on it to tell you what it is

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<crweb>

if it says NULL, or RS-232 or something on it, maybe we can tell better

[00:28]

<crweb>

if we are sure its a NULL cable/adaptor or something. we'd have to assume a setting is incorrect somewhere...

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hi crweb

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<crweb>

hey

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<viral>

hai crweb thanks for all hepl

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<viral>

help

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<viral>

i got null connector too with me but unfortunatly it is having male to male ends :(

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<viral>

will try again later in day

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<viral>

again thanks for help

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<crweb>

that is odd for null modem connector

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<crweb>

good luck, feel free to come back in :)

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<crweb>

oh wait. no, thats normal for it to have male to male

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<crweb>

i have osd -> female -> null connector -> female to female connector -> pc

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<crweb>

daurnimator: how are you nowdays?

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broke

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<crweb>

out of highschool these days?

[00:49]

yeah

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at uni

[00:49]

<crweb>

i dunno.. small talk.. last i remember you were in highschool...

[00:49]

<crweb>

of course that was probably sometime in late 2006

[00:50]

<crweb>

my past year seems to be going by so fast, i didn't even know how old i was on my birthday

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sorry, long phone call

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I finished yr 12 in november

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Started uni in feb

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had this week off for easter break

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<crweb>

ah cool

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what are you doing now?

[01:11]

<crweb>

all kinds of stuff

[01:12]

<crweb>

osd2 software setup, osd2 upgrade, osd1 NTSC/PAL switch, osd1 PAL distortion..

[01:12]

<crweb>

and lots of areas in the network upgrade

[01:15]

i mean... uni?

[01:26]

<crweb>

oh, in fall semester i'm taking my last 2 math classes with my fiance

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<crweb>

then I will be done

[03:09]

<dab>

Hi nero.

[03:10]

<dab>

Hi All.

[03:11]

<dab>

Hi derobert!

[03:12]

<dab>

anybody awake!!

[03:21]

what does this means "Warning: unable to open an initial console."

[03:22]

after this screen got blank :(

[03:27]

any idea?

[03:30]

crweb / nerochiaro : any interest in this? www.cmp-egevents.com

[03:32]

<crweb>

BIMZIE: if i remember right, that means that the dev nodes did not get copied to nfs-rootfs correctly

[03:32]

dab,BIMZIE: bad day for asking questions, can you please check back in a few hours ?

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daurnimator: i don't think so, but i'm not the hardware type

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<crweb>

very cool

[03:48]

<crweb>

hey, we have a MSP430, thats what that link is about

morning

hi

nerochiaro, hey =)

turran: how goes ?

dab: still need help ?

[05:15]

anders_: ping me when you have some time, please

[05:16]

<anders_>

nerochiaro: ping

[05:17]

nerochiaro, at work, boring :P

[05:17]

anders_: i tried your suggestion about using the ringbuffer function to ensure that buffer is filled on song change, but it doesn't seem to be solving my issue. so i was wondering if you could help me a bit find out what could be going on

[05:17]

turran: the job where you mount OSD's on submarines ? or am i confusing your job with someone else's job ?

[05:19]

anders_: if/when you have time

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<anders_>

nerochiaro: Hmmm.. How did you test your change? Did you add some debug prints to song_changed before and after waiting. With time and buffer fill and thing like that?

[05:19]

nerochiaro, yes, that was a specific project at my work

[05:21]

anders_: printed space used and free in ringbuffer before and after the wait_used

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<anders_>

nerochiaro: Okey.

[05:23]

anders_: problem is, even if i do that, i keep getting this issue with FLAC files (i think it happens with mp3 too although more rarely). basically sometime (more often just after a track change) i get audio that stutters, like if it's struggling to decode enough data to playback realtime

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that's why i tried that fix with wait_used, to ensure at song start there was enough data to avoid the issue

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but it didn't work

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<anders_>

nerochiaro: What happens if you increase output buffer size?

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it doesn't fix it, i tried

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well, i tried it before the wait_used fix, actually

[05:25]

<anders_>

Would be interesting in combination with wait_used.

[05:25]

trying that

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what size do you suggest pushing up that buffer ? 320K instead of 32K ?

[05:26]

<dab>

hi nero!!

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<anders_>

nerochiaro: Yeah, try it.

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<dab>

I thought you were asleep!

[05:27]

anders_: ok, giving it a shot

[05:27]

<dab>

again help needed with svn

[05:27]

<dab>

yesterday that svn up is finished

[05:27]

dab: nope, but we were working our arse off on some crazyness for a milestone and had not much time to help here

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dab: ok, did you do the svn switch ?

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<anders_>

nerochiaro: That would be almost 2s buffer.

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<dab>

ya but that's giving working copy is locked error

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<dab>

i tried cleanup, but it says its not an working copy

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dab: what's the error exactly ? can you paste the whole thing in pastebin.ca ?

[05:29]

anders_: that should be more than enough

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anders_: how do i get the size of the ringbuffer to ask it to fill it completely, btw ?

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<dab>

ya

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<dab>

wait

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<anders_>

nerochiaro: xmms_ringbuf_size

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ok

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<dab>

nero: pastebin.ca

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<crweb>

ahh

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<crweb>

you have to be cd'd into the repo dir

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<crweb>

oh no

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<crweb>

miss read nvrmind

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<dab>

crweb: if you are talking to me then : pwd is /home/neuros/neuros-osd

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<crweb>

try rm the uboot dir

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<dab>

ok

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<crweb>

then svn up

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dab: try rm the dirs where it shows you locks and use "svn up" to restore them

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<dab>

ok.

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dab: i have no idea why that is happening, but the remove and restore from svn should fix it

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<crweb>

if he removes neuros-bsp, the repo is gone

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<crweb>

it means a svn command was killed

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<crweb>

like ctrl-c during a commit

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crweb: no, i mean to remove just the sub-dirs that show locks

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it's not the entire repos

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nerochairo: do u have few mins?

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BIMZIE: try

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anders_: i'm testing the stuff too in the meantime, it takes a while before the bug appears, if it does. i'll let you know in a little

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nerochairo: man wots happening is... when i boot the device the screen goes blank after first neuros logo screen

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BIMZIE: crweb told you, you must've somethign wrong in your /dev/ nodes

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yeah but i checked my nfs share

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its working

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<crweb>

did you copy the rootfs/fs/dev/ dir as root to your nfs share?

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i've a script for that

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lemme copy that manually

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<crweb>

if it wasn't root, it didn't happen right

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<crweb>

sudo cp -a rootfs/fs/dev/* /nfsroot/dev

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m doing it wid ur root permission

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anders_: while it tests, another question: it seems if i put the database in NFS, the changes aren't committed to disk immediately. for example i add songs to playlist, and they are added. but when i wait some minutes and reboot, when i check again after the new songs are not in playlist

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i mean the scripts run wid root permission

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anders_: like the changes were kept in memory only, and never actually committed to disk. if i quit xmms2 before rebooting, they are written to disk instead

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<crweb>

BIMZIE: ok, another possibility is, did you use cp -a ? otherwise the dev nodes become normal files

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<crweb>

nerochiaro: i think igot that one

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<crweb>

try running sync before you reboot

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<crweb>

just to test

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crweb: already tried. won't work

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<crweb>

wow.. well.. huh

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well jus copied it... waiting for the device to boot

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i used cp -a

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BIMZIE: did it use to work before ?

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yep it did.....

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it was working

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last night it was working and today it isn't working :(

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<crweb>

BIMZIE: what changed?

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i was working on neux widgets

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<crweb>

well, another cause could be that the build didn't finish

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<crweb>

any compile error would have caused this

[05:51]

no compile errors

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<crweb>

did you recopy the uImage to tftp after you rebuilt?

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i recompiled it many times... still not working

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yep

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<crweb>

something must have changed..

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<crweb>

the error was "Warning: unable to open an initial console."

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i'm goin to back track everything

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but problem is after i did my changes i compiled and tested it and it was working

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<crweb>

can you pastebin your serial output?

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<crweb>

maybe i think error is somewhere else

jus a sec

this is everything....

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<crweb>

it jsut stops there on line 182?

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yep....

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<crweb>

try typing root

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after loading DM320 encoder and decoder

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it is not accepting any input

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<crweb>

means the buffer filled

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<crweb>

its a dev node problem.

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<crweb>

what changed from when you worked on it, to now?

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<crweb>

did you svn up? did you change any OSD hardware settings?

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i was working on some neux widgets as i told u

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* crweb hides in another channel where greyback isn't

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* greyback looks around to make sure crweb isn't around

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<crweb>

oh hey hi greyback

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so how could i trace where is the memory leak or some other problem which is causing this

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why if it isn't my old pal crweb!

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<crweb>

BIMZIE: ln -lh neuros-bsp/rootfs/fs/dev > file.text and pastebin the file.

[06:02]

<crweb>

BIMZIE: no such thing would be the cause. problem is busybox tries to open console, which fails, then the output buffer fills and stops execution

[06:04]

is it ln or ls?

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<crweb>

hah

[06:04]

<crweb>

you know whats funny is, first time i typed ln -s

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<crweb>

its ls -lh

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<crweb>

couldn't figure out why i typed -s

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<crweb>

(typed -s because habit states -s comes after ln)

[06:05]

anders_: increasing the buffer didn't work. some log is here (with the traces is added in output.c:song_changed before and after the wait_used

[06:06]

anders_: stutter is still there after the song change

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<crweb>

thats when you know you've used linux way to long

[06:07]

crweb: did you grab those files I emailed you about (vids with a/v sycn problems & the like)?

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* crweb wanders

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<crweb>

;)

[06:07]

<crweb>

i got 2 of them

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<crweb>

let me make sure i put them in correct place

[06:08]

<crweb>

whats your real name again?

[06:08]

Gerry

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Boland

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<crweb>

ah yes

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www.pastebin.ca

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<crweb>

(it was on the next page)

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<crweb>

BIMZIE: ok, now same thing only on your nfsroot

[06:09]

<crweb>

i know, they are going to be the same.. but humor me please :)

[06:10]

<crweb>

greyback: let me get one more

[06:10]

<crweb>

looks like I only clicked on the Scrambled ones

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<crweb>

15 minutes

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crweb: take your time, just gimme a shout when done (I'd like to remove them after, it's a old Uni server & people are nosey)

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www.pastebin.ca

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<crweb>

good news

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<crweb>

j/k... they are the same

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<crweb>

your device output does not make sense

[06:15]

<crweb>

module loading does not happen right after mount

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<crweb>

do this:

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<crweb>

actually don't do this... grr

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<crweb>

have you svn'd up lately?

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<crweb>

*don't do it*, i just need to know when you did lat

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<crweb>

last

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last time i did it was 19th march

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i think

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<crweb>

oh

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<crweb>

uh.. hmm..

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m sure it was 19th

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got it from trunk

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<crweb>

yeah, don't up

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<crweb>

just for shits and giggles.. whats your /etc/exports lines look like?

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<crweb>

you need no_root_squash

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ahhh

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m not using no_root_squash

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did change it today though

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:(

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<crweb>

see, kept asking what changed to day ;)

[06:25]

lemme try this wid no_root_squash

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<crweb>

it will work

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<crweb>

it was not allowing root permission the the dev node

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man how come i missed this part

[06:26]

<crweb>

same here but, i'm asking.. what took me so long.

[06:26]

and took lot of ur time.. but i got it now so i won't make such stupid mistakes in future

[06:26]

<crweb>

lol, no problems

[06:26]

thanks man :)

[06:27]

<crweb>

nerochiaro: see, losing my touch

[06:27]

no he hasn't it was more of my mistake

[06:28]

* crweb makes a new sticky note for the wall

[06:28]

<crweb>

fiance is going to rip all those down when we get married :|

[06:29]

<crweb>

well, almost fiance. everythings done except the actual asking part.

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<crweb>

i'm out.

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* crweb connects greyback's input to answering machine

[06:35]

crweb: don't marry her, take me instead!

[06:35]

<crweb>

i'm sorry

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<crweb>

I'm not in right now, please leave a message after the beep

[06:36]

hup, sorry, that should've been: don't marry him, take me instead!

[06:36]

<crweb>

riiiigggghhhtt....

[06:36]

<crweb>

ok... on that note...

[06:37]

<crweb>

and you wouldn't want her. I can't get her to cook, clean or anything.

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<crweb>

all she wants to do is sit around and play Call of Duty 4

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<crweb>

not that those are womens jobs or anything.. its just, i only have 1 HD tv and she cuts into my Call of Duty time.

[06:39]

"not that those are womens jobs or anything.." :)

[06:40]

WWWWCH (apparantly)

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<crweb>

wwwwch?

[06:41]

Yeah, never been convinced by it

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Link: www.urbandictionary.com

[06:42]

<crweb>

ahh the whiped noise?

[06:42]

very lame attempt at it anyway :)

[06:42]

<crweb>

i have a sevre case of OCD

[06:42]

<crweb>

I wouldn't let her clean anyway

[06:43]

dudes, that remind me i have a very tall stack of clothes i need to iron :(

[06:43]

<crweb>

you know.. if you take them out of the dryer as soon as they are done, no need to iron :)

[06:43]

<crweb>

greyback: but, yes. WWWWCH

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just buy a size too small so nothing can crease!

[06:44]

<crweb>

lol

[06:44]

crweb: i always do that, i also have a sophisticated hanging technique that will automatically unwrinkle my t-shirts and pants. but shirts and some other stuff still need ironing unfortunately

[06:45]

crweb: the idea is i pile them until they are too many, then iron them all in one massive session

[06:45]

<crweb>

i can't iron

[06:45]

i hate ironing with a passion

[06:45]

it ain't hard. just move the iron until all wrinkles are gone

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don't forget the iron on cloth

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two simple rules

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<crweb>

i have to get every crease and wrinkle out

[06:46]

<crweb>

i could easily lose a day ironing a few things

[06:46]

i usually do that while watching movies, so i would "lose" the time anyway

[06:46]

<crweb>

so, i just don't start

[06:46]

but ya, i try to avoid it when possible. that's why i wear mostly only tshirts

[06:47]

<crweb>

i think i only own 2 things that aren't cotton type t's

[06:47]

pants ? ;)

[06:47]

<crweb>

i have 2 pairs of jeans

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<crweb>

i don't go out much.

[06:48]

doesn't it ever get cold down there ?

[06:48]

<crweb>

yep. never got around to buying long sleeve shirts

[06:48]

going out in a winter storm in a tshirt isn't really sane, you know

[06:49]

<crweb>

thats what my coat is for :)

[06:50]

* nerochiaro pictures crweb married and ironing wife's clothes while she plays call of duty

[06:50]

<crweb>

hell no, there is a no iron'ing rule

[06:51]

<crweb>

i dunno why i use ' so often..

[06:54]

* greyback pictures crweb married and waering wife's clothes while she plays call of duty

[06:54]

<crweb>

i would look damn good.

[06:55]

ooh it pains, it pains

[06:55]

<crweb>

its still dark outside and i haven't seen daylight in a few days

[06:56]

<crweb>

I keep glancing at xiamen's clock on my desktop

[06:56]

<crweb>

"oh holy crap its 8pm already"

[07:00]

<crweb>

man, AZ is looking good

[08:22]

<dab>

Hi nero

[08:22]

<dab>

I deleted whole directorty.... downloaded the tarball, extracted it, and ran svn switch...

[08:22]

<dab>

this time its running

[08:23]

<dab>

now do I have to run svn up?

[08:23]

<dab>

or should i buid it after the switch trunk finishes?

[08:25]

dab: wait for switch to trunk to finish, then svn up for safety, then build

[08:25]

<dab>

ok. thanks.

[10:20]

If someone has a minute to spare, could you give a look at my code here: www.pastebin.ca

[10:22]

I'm trying to just get a listing from the Scheduler, I made a simple class which should connects to the Scheduler QCopChannel and pass anything recieved to a recieve method.

[10:23]

But I can't get it to compile, it's complaining about how I call QCopChannel::connect as if I'm not using the right arguments, but I grabbed a lot of this from nupdatersettings.h so am confused. I mustn't be inheriting something maybe?

[10:45]

<JRB_handheld>

hi all

[10:46]

<JRB_handheld>

anyone know how opera handles youtube?

[10:46]

<JRB_handheld>

wrt to this whole flash issue

[10:47]

should use plugins like everyone else

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